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...I just may say F it since Apple does a terrible job supporting old models as it is (my 3G is unusable and has been for a year)

At least they try. My wife has a 2010 Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant; and we still cannot upgrade to anything higher! Andriod phone makers does an even lousier job support older phones! Not even 1 year old!

My collegue at work who owns HTC and LG Andriod phones has similar experience. they are stuck at their old Andriod 2.0 versions and was promised updates forever. None of them have been able to update Andriod unless they root it.

My theory is HTC, LG, Samsung doesn't make enougn profit off their old phones and don't have the resources and staff to update Andriod across all their Andriod lines. They rather stick their resources at the latest and greatest.

The only Andriod phones that appear to be upgradable are Google reference phones/development phones such as the Nexus phones, and G1.
 
I guess 1 more month makes no difference. The iPhone 5 based on the rumours, is going to be the most significant upgrade. But I can see a late September release if anything. Late October might be pushing it..

Also, didn't Apple say that they'll be having a major product transition in the coming quarter? And when does that quarter end?
 
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Only reason for a October release is if Apple is waiting for a 28nm Ax chip.
Maybe the heat problem is true. The A5 is 30% bigger then other ARM chips because it have extra logic. Maybe it was to hot for a phone and they had to shrink it to 28nm

Production of 28nm wafers is currently ramping up at TSMC.

Dual core Cortex9 at 1.5ghz + PowerVR6 graphic?

There is no way iPhone 5 is going to be faster than iPad 2. They will under clock it to 1ghz dual core.

Maybe this is part of the reason the release date is so pushed back. Before the iPhone was released only a couple months after eachother. Now, it will be half a year apart from eachother. Think about how much better that works for apple!

September 2011: iPhone 5 with a dual core 1.2ghz processor and 512 ram

March 2012: iPad 3 with a dual core 1.5 ghz processor and 1gb ram

September 2012: iPhone 6 with 1ghz quad core processor and 1gb ram

Etc etc etc

Apple likes to keep people excited by making something slightly better than what they JUST bought a couple months before, and this does just that!!
 
At least they try. My wife has a 2010 Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant; and we still cannot upgrade to anything higher! Andriod phone makers does an even lousier job support older phones! Not even 1 year old!

My collegue at work who owns HTC and LG Andriod phones has similar experience. they are stuck at their old Andriod 2.0 versions and was promised updates forever. None of them have been able to update Andriod unless they root it.

My theory is HTC, LG, Samsung doesn't make enougn profit off their old phones and don't have the resources and staff to update Andriod across all their Andriod lines. They rather stick their resources at the latest and greatest.

The only Andriod phones that appear to be upgradable are Google reference phones/development phones such as the Nexus phones, and G1.

You might want to check your facts. It is the carrier causing the problem not Samsung. There has been a gingerbread release out for the galaxy S for months now. AT&T has already announced the the captivate is getting gingerbread which is there version of the Galaxy A. Verizon is slow as hell because there Gingerbread was going on the GalaxyS over seas by the time it go froyo.
 
The last part of your comment may well be true -- but there is a likelier explanation -- component shortages due to the Japanese earthquake.

That's a possibility. And/or along those same lines, perhaps moving to different suppliers.

Judging by how well the year old iPhone 4 sold last quarter (it's best sales ever, by far), Android has NO effect on iPhone sales whatsoever -- Apple's ability to produce enough iPhones and have extra carriers lined up is the only thing that matters.

If that's all that mattered, Apple wouldn't be suing everyone in sight and trying to stop the competition. They didn't start doing that in earnest until it became clear that Android would have an impact on them.

For example, Android phones are beginning to displace the iPhone in Japan and other countries. And at the current rate, analysts think Samsung is going to bypass Apple as the top smartphone maker this next quarter.

As for the iPhone not being a transition -- that's simply absurd. Apple has used the phrase in the past about the iPhone.

Got any link examples? In the meantime, I'll take your word, so what do you think it means? Moving away from retina to a larger screen? Adding a lower cost model? LTE? New chips? Or simply changing the antenna?
 
I think it would be kind of funny if the iPhone 5 was the major redesign and the iPhone 6 was the "speed bump".
 
The last part of your comment may well be true -- but there is a likelier explanation -- component shortages due to the Japanese earthquake. Judging by how well the year old iPhone 4 sold last quarter (it's best sales ever, by far), Android has NO effect on iPhone sales whatsoever -- Apple's ability to produce enough iPhones and have extra carriers lined up is the only thing that matters.

As for the iPhone not being a transition -- that's simply absurd. Apple has used the phrase in the past about the iPhone. Mentioning the Apple TV shows how far from reality you are -- the Apple TV has NO *material* impact on Apple's bottom line.
That begs the question, if they are not saturating their market with iPhones (ie sales haven't dropped or even leveled off), why come out with a new one? That seems like they would be leaving easy money on the table...

:confused:
 
Now they said iOS5 is coming in Fall, not even iPhone 5. And iOS usually gets released before the new hardware.

That is not accurate.
iOS 4 was the earliest a version of iOS has come out before new hardware. And it came out 2 days before the iPhone 4.
 
There is a level of desperation here that is kind of sad and scary.

I'm sure the new iPhone will be terrific, or not.

BUT IT'S JUST A PHONE!! NOT A CURE FOR CANCER!! :eek:

A little perspective here.:)

Many of the people on this board make their money writing apps for the iPhone and iPad. That would be like saying, Who cares if you get a 50% pay cut? It's just your job.
 
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Just some info.Had a call from my service provider and the guy told me iPhone 5 launching in october do I want to wait as my contract is finished. That means the US will launch September normally.
 
I guess 1 more month makes no difference. The iPhone 5 based on the rumours, is going to be the most significant upgrade. But I can see a late September release if anything. Late October might be pushing it..

Also, didn't Apple say that they'll be having a major product transition in the coming quarter? And when does that quarter end?

They (Tim Cook) said by the end of September actually. :cool:
 
Also, didn't Apple say that they'll be having a major product transition in the coming quarter? And when does that quarter end?
This quarter (and Apple's fiscal 2011) ends on the last Saturday of September, the 24th. All of Apple's quarters are exactly thirteen weeks long, with the exception of the odd fourteen week quarter to make up for extra days.
 
Why would they increase Apple Store staffing from mid-August through September if the iPhone wouldn't be released until October. I don't believe it, especially since Apple is notorious for September releases.
 
Why would they increase Apple Store staffing from mid-August through September if the iPhone wouldn't be released until October. I don't believe it, especially since Apple is notorious for September releases.

The original plan may have been for September, They may have had issues come up with parts suppliers that have slowed things down.
 
Why would they increase Apple Store staffing from mid-August through September if the iPhone wouldn't be released until October.
Increased sales activity due to "back to school."

I saw this the other day at my local Apple Store. A family directly across from me: the parents were shopping for computer (a MacBook Air) with their son, an incoming freshman to one of the local universities. Probably more of that going on elsewhere in the store.
 
I was just talking with the service of my provider and he assured me that the new iphone wont have any design changes just some hardware changes like the different camera....maybe he knows something :D
 
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