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I think you've got it wrong. On GSM/LTE networks it uses 3G for voice and LTE for data on a call and on Android CDMA/LTE phones they use 3G for voice and LTE for data.

When there is no call, both phone will use LTE. When a call is received, it will be taken on the 3G network. On a GSM phone, the LTE radio will stop, but data will still go through. On a CDMA phone, unless there is a second radio keeping up the LTE connection (which there is on other Verizon LTE phones), the data will stop as it switches down to 3G.

I don't think that manufacturers use a 2-radio design on GSM phones since it offers a marginal benefit. I.e. simultaneous voice and data still work even if it has to drop down into 3G.
 
I have a lot of programming experience thank you very much and what you've just said doesn't make much sense. First of all a single-threaded application will also run slower on a dual core CPU. Secondly since software for both Android and iOS are written using a rich API integrated directly with the OS, most apps can take advantage of a multi core CPU, because the OS does so, and so do engines like Unity etc..

To take your own example of single threaded performance: the iPhone 5 and the S3 have comparable Geekbench performance, which means that per core the iPhone has 2x the performance of the S3. Ergo in single threaded performance, the iPhone will beat the S3 by a factor of two.

The APIs on iOS do not do not take advantage of multi-core CPUs automatically. Apple provides technologies to facilitate parallel programming such as GCD, sure, but the actual work is still up to the programmer. Parallel programming is inherently difficult. It is the job of the programmer to express the parallelism and concurrency using an appropriate technology -- a job which is time consuming, error prone, often provides diminishing returns, and requires skills that many programmers still don't have.
 
The A6 deserves a lot more recognition than it is getting, but not because it is particularly fast, but that it is the first in what will become a long line of Apple's truly custom processors.

Imagine an A6, but with a quad core design! :cool:
 
Guys, you're going to be hugely embarrassed when another Android phone comes out that is faster than the iPhone 5.

Sorry dude, I was just having some fun.

You know what, it doesn't matter. There is like 5-10 new android phones launching every week, I don't want the latest and the greatest.

I JUST NEED A PHONE THAT CAN GET MY WORK DONE AS FAST AND INTUITIVELY AS POSSIBLE.

I guess iPhone is the only phone that meets that requirements better than any smartphone out there.
 
The CDMA versions of the iPhone 5 (Verizon and Sprint) don't support simultaneous voice and data. It's partly a limitation of the CDMA network, but other phones, including most Verizon LTE phones, use two radios in order to get around this limitation. The iPhone has only one radio and so it can't. The GSM versions of the iPhone can run simultaneous voice and data.

Get up to speed. On CDMA/LTE networks (like Verizon), iPhone 5 does not do simultaneous voice and data. On GSM/LTE networks it does both but it's not LTE data either as the phones switches to 3G. Android phones on Verizon do 4G data and voice simultaneously.

Hahaha, that explains why I have never hear of such a limitation on any phone. Third world mobile networks are to blame here.
Not the iPhone.
 
They don't matter. It's just amusing that Apple's custom 1Ghz dual core outperforms quad core chips running at much higher clock speeds.

the real surprise here is that a dual core ,1 gb ram phone beating quad core ,2 gb S3.

Is it really a surprise?

The 2 core Samsung Galaxy S II outperformed a 4 core HTC One X running at a higher clock speed. This isn't the first time a similar thing happened.
 
Guys...at the end of the day...competition only helps the consumer...to each their own...those bashing on android fanboys aren't any better themselves...
 

*sigh*... There are people that appreciate both OS' and technology in general, you don't have to turn this into a football match. Obviously that comment goes both ways. But I see an almost PTSD reaction from people here when Android is mentioned.

iPhone 5 has a pretty good speed bump it seems. Of course it's faster than anything else. Apple would have done something really wrong if they weren't faster from the competition. Props to Apple, but they didn't do anything *that* amazing. I also fully expect the next flagship android model (coming the next 6 months) to be faster than the iPhone 5. Newer technology is faster/better than the previous after all.
 
Sorry dude, I was just having some fun.

You know what, it doesn't matter. There is like 5-10 new android phones launching every week, I don't want the latest and the greatest.

I JUST NEED A PHONE THAT CAN GET MY WORK DONE AS FAST AND INTUITIVELY AS POSSIBLE.

I guess iPhone is the only phone that meets that requirements better than any smartphone out there.

I agree with this. The iPhone is better in every way for me than any other competitor except for one exception: no micro SD card slot. And I think it's better in general than the competition.
 
I don't get it. The person who tested their iPhone 4s got a 629. I just tested my iPhone 4s and got a 856 with geekbench. Can anyone tell me why? Still, I am impressed with the iPhone 5, I can't wait! And this also proves that more cores doesn't necessarily mean more power!
 
OMG, elitist jerk attack.

Are you involved in the development of S4? Is it out already?
Were you involved in the development of A6? Any source you can quote about the A15 elements?

You don't know jack about the architecture behind these procs, but here, have a medal for being registered on the forums longer than I am.

Grats!

Pandamonia is simply an Apple-hater; don't get worked up about it.
 
While its always fun to stick it to Fandroids, I'll stick with what I said earlier. I could care less about what a stat sheet says, whether my phone is the best or not. Its about more than a stat sheet, and unfortunately, its about more than a Geekbench score. Its about the experience, the feel of it in your hand, responsiveness of the UI, and this is where the iPhone excels. Build quality and style mean something to me, so I'm a fanboy.

To me what is the most impressive is that when you look at the S III and the 4S, the 4S is still neck and neck with it... not on all things, but on ALOT of things. If it doesn't beat it outright its on par with it. And that is the old version. Sure we will see an Android beating this Geekbench score soon, I'll care about as much about that, as I do this. By the time we have a 5S, we will have the S VI, and I'm sure they'll find a way to wind up the clock speed.

AnAnd had a great article about the A6, if you haven't read it you should. They compare the smartphone industry to the old Pentium machines. While Android works up the clock speed, the INNOVATER is changing the game giving themselves the head room to have a long term strategy.
 
So these could be faked and it's a week before launch. Who would have an iPhone 5 right now to run GeekBench besides a handful of Apple employees?

Early Reviewers have units.
 
I don't think Apple fans who are pleased with this result actually care that in a short while the next Android will surpass it. Its only meaningful because the hordes of Android fans on this forum (which I totally don't understand), were adamant that the iPhone 5 was a disgrace because of so called underwhelming specs.

This is just a little bit of good oll rubbing it in.

But they will rub it in when another Android phone comes out that is faster. It's a leapfrog thing, as some here already said. It's hard to compare who is actually making the fastest hardware. My guess is that Samsung is a little ahead in general, but this could change because Apple is investing in mobile CPU technology. I don't care, either.
 
To take your own example of single threaded performance: the iPhone 5 and the S3 have comparable Geekbench performance, which means that per core the iPhone has 2x the performance of the S3. Ergo in single threaded performance, the iPhone will beat the S3 by a factor of two.

This is a flawed analogy. Compare those phones in single threaded performance and you won't get 2x performance on an iPhone 5, because it is not that simple as dividing it by two/four. What about memory performance, bandwidth, clock-speed?

The APIs on iOS do not do not take advantage of multi-core CPUs automatically.
Yes it does. Many of the API calls you perform are handled in different threads and even a mediocre programmer does not perform heavy lifting in the main thread to avoid UI stutter.
 
Is it really a surprise?

The 2 core Samsung Galaxy S II outperformed a 4 core HTC One X running at a higher clock speed. This isn't the first time a similar thing happened.

The Tegra series of chips are absolute ****. Lower than ****.

I'd take an Exynos over Tegra any day of the week.
 
Most apple users don't care about specs; yet this article serves as a great way to shut those fandroids who keep claiming 'apple is playing catch-up' up.

So, u mad bro?

I wonder why those "fandroids" act that way with this kind of Apple-user attitude, the only one who sounds mad is you. You didn't even bother to read my entire post.
 
Well, the iPhone 5's processor is somewhat faster than those Android smartphones, but those Droidbois weren't kidding when the said the iPhone 4S was behind the times. The iPhone 4S specs are pathetic compared to even the crappiest Android smartphones. I'm not saying it means a lot to a user, I'm just pointing out that the iPhone 4S's processor was a snail based on Geekbench stats. Most of those Android smartphones came out after the 4S, so maybe it's to be expected.

Those slower Android smartphones will eventually be over-clocked by some OS updates, so in a few months the iPhone will not have the fastest processor specs. By the end of next year the iPhone 5's processor will be somewhere at the low end of the scale. All the Android vendors will see to that. They'll merely crank up all their processors to the max just to put the iPhone 5 to shame.
 
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