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I can see folks getting understandably emotional. Lots of information and misinformation going around. Samsung really has given Android a very bad name.

I develop on both platforms. I've owned Android phones for the last 3 years, I have an iPhone 5 on order.

In general I now prefer iOS because the Android ecosystem is getting a little out of hand. Malware, poor app behavior is common, manufacturers who don't support their phones after launch (HTC in particular).

However, like many things, its not all one sided. Android has lots of good ideas and innovations. Several seem improvements over iOS. The notifications UI is the best example that was essentially copied from Android. I still think its done better on Android.

Android has a fundamental concept of intents which acts like dynamic links between applications. Applications can register that they know how to handle certains types of data. If a user tries to view that data, they have a choice of which app to process it. Its a very elegant and generalized solution which is powerful in Android. iOS has recently added something similar but it feels like a special purpose bolted on patch. Maybe it will evolve ok.

In general I think Apple and iOS have more of a focus on their customer and improving the user experience.

Android is too fragmented between Google, carriers and manufacturers. No one really owns the customer. No one really cares if the customer stays happy.

I've gone back and forth but with the current state of affairs I think iOS is a better bet at this point in time.


totaly agree sir..
 
Thats most likely it, jelly bean improved performance. So there you have it folks. Not trying to bash apple in any way because I am actually going to be a proud owner of a new iPhone 5 soon. Just trying to get the facts straight.

To be honest I would t worry about the performance of the cpu it hardly matters in an iphone anyway. It's so locked down you barely get to use full power anyway. The OS uses pre rendering to get its ui performance and cpu might only really load a Web Page slightly quicker than before.

Personally I use my S3 to run emulators of old consoles on my TV with hdmi out and also play blu ray rips off the S3 which require serious horsepower that not even my Ipad 3 can do with jailbreak.
So on the iphone you can't do any of that so it won't matter. Apple says no
 
it's also funny an iphone costs a hell of a lot more, I'd expect it to be *better*

What? Same price. Starts at $199 with contract in the US.

And you don't pay just for the hardware. You're paying also those talented and creative engineers at Apple. You're paying their hardwork since 2005. You're also using their 1 billion server farm for FREE without ads. Etc etc
 
I had iphone for 5 years and I left because I was sick of apples rules with MY phone. I still own other apple stuff but the iphone is finished for me. They don't innovate any more. They just milk

How is this not innovation? They've engineered a processor specifically for iOS, while continuing to enhance the build quality that has yet to be matched by a competitor device. This phone screams innovation. The level of hardware they've put into such a thin and light device is amazing. They will likely sell 50 million by year's end.
 
I can see folks getting understandably emotional. Lots of information and misinformation going around. Samsung really has given Android a very bad name.

I develop on both platforms. I've owned Android phones for the last 3 years, I have an iPhone 5 on order.

In general I now prefer iOS because the Android ecosystem is getting a little out of hand. Malware, poor app behavior is common, manufacturers who don't support their phones after launch (HTC in particular).

However, like many things, its not all one sided. Android has lots of good ideas and innovations. Several seem improvements over iOS. The notifications UI is the best example that was essentially copied from Android. I still think its done better on Android.

Android has a fundamental concept of intents which acts like dynamic links between applications. Applications can register that they know how to handle certains types of data. If a user tries to view that data, they have a choice of which app to process it. Its a very elegant and generalized solution which is powerful in Android. iOS has recently added something similar but it feels like a special purpose bolted on patch. Maybe it will evolve ok.

In general I think Apple and iOS have more of a focus on their customer and improving the user experience.

Android is too fragmented between Google, carriers and manufacturers. No one really owns the customer. No one really cares if the customer stays happy.

I've gone back and forth but with the current state of affairs I think iOS is a better bet at this point in time.

Well said. I'm in the exact same boat.
 
Geez!!! More powerful than the 4S and iPad 3 COMBINED. Camping out at the AT&T store by my house Thursday night. Will probably be too excited to sleep.
 
Does anyone else find this whole thread very hypocritical?

Windows user "you can get a computer with better specs and benchmarks better cheaper. Macs are teh sux!"

Mac user: "It's not all about the specs or benchmarks, duh!"

now here:

mac user "the iphone benchmarks better, android / vender of choice is teh sux!"

it's also funny an iphone costs a hell of a lot more, I'd expect it to be *better*

well anodised metal and aluminium generally cost more than plastic yah :p Plus don't forget the years worth of design compared to the overnight slap together s3 and also iOS developed by Apple and not google :p
 
It does exist. The korean model is quad with 2gb and the new gt i9305 lte model is quad with 2gb. Its available for pre order in aus, it will also be available in germany and the uk aswell, prob other countries but thats all that i know about. But yes most readers are talking about the gti9300 and that has only 1gb ram.

I do agree with the rest of your statement tho

i thought that was called the s3 lte in korea as well? with sammy having so many versions of a similar phone if its not just called the s3 i didnt include it. the s2 is even worse when it comes to models but i think there are only 2 only called the s2 so the others i dont group in with it which without me mentioning that i could see how you thought i didnt know about it. but thanks for the correction anyway to most users it is helpful.
 
Don't forget that the performance of each core is felt much more easily than the Geekbench since not all tasks can take advantage of more cores. For instance loading an app. Thus the speed improvement will be noticeable.

In any case very impressive results from a phone that's smaller than its predecessor in volume.

Isn't the us s3 only dual core? What's that score?

Galaxy S3 hardware is somewhat fragmented. Depending on your region and carrier, a Galaxy S3 might have Exynos (quad core A9) or a Qualcomm S4 (dual core Kraits). The Exynos one scores about the same as the iPhone 5 while the S4 comes a little short. Plus some of Galaxy S3 have 1GB of RAM while others have 2GB.

I don't see it mentioned here but the Geekbench in Android can be greatly affected by the power setting and all the other options being turned on and off. So it's not an exact science to compare an Android phone and iPhone using only Geekbench.
 
From the docs:


The delegate methods are called from the same thread where you started location services. Try again.

Your methods. The ones that respond to events.

From the docs:
The CLLocationManager class defines the interface for configuring the delivery of location- and heading-related events to your application. You use an instance of this class to establish the parameters that determine when location and heading events should be delivered and to start and stop the actual delivery of those events. You can also use a location manager object to retrieve the most recent location and heading data.

You respond to events that are generated by the service, you are not "hosting" the service in your app.
 
Its dawn here. Kicked the a$$ of my roommate who uses S3 and shown him this result. He is in coma.

Are you sure your Samsheep room mate is in a coma from you or in a coma from having an epiphany against his SamReligion :p
 
How is this not innovation? They've engineered a processor specifically for iOS, while continuing to enhance the build quality that has yet to be matched by a competitor device. This phone screams innovation. The level of hardware they've put into such a thin and light device is amazing. They will likely sell 50 million by year's end.

Lol what innovative new features? Inferior maps service. Small screen with poor colours. Faster cpu with a locked down OS and no file system access. Crap battery that can't be removed. Poor storage options that are very overpriced.

It's thin? The only thing I like to be thin is my girlfriend. My phones have never been fat
 
What? Same price. Starts at $199 with contract in the US.

And you don't pay just for the hardware. You're paying also those talented and creative engineers at Apple. You're paying their hardwork since 2005. You're also using their 1 billion server farm for FREE without ads. Etc etc
Your post started so well then it just went downhill pretty quick... And im an iphone user
 
To be honest I would t worry about the performance of the cpu it hardly matters in an iphone anyway. It's so locked down you barely get to use full power anyway. The OS uses pre rendering to get its ui performance and cpu might only really load a Web Page slightly quicker than before.

Personally I use my S3 to run emulators of old consoles on my TV with hdmi out and also play blu ray rips off the S3 which require serious horsepower that not even my Ipad 3 can do with jailbreak.
So on the iphone you can't do any of that so it won't matter. Apple says no

Lol....wow that sounded nerdy!
 
From now on when Samsung release their next product and start comparing it to the year old iPhone 5 saying how Apple is so far behind. We can just remind them of this date. When an Apple product releases within a month of a Samsung product. The Apple product will always win ;)
 
I had iphone for 5 years and I left because I was sick of apples rules with MY phone. I still own other apple stuff but the iphone is finished for me. They don't innovate any more. They just milk
Fair enough, but at least Apple gets what is in the iPhone right.
Sure others can throw everything on the table and claim their phone has more but usually you're just left with a messy pile.
 
Geekbench scores very a lot depending on how the phone is configured the international galaxy S 3 scores as high is 1800 +.
 
Isn't the us s3 only dual core? What's that score?

I think the US varient is Dual core, international is quad.

I'll wait until the iPhone 5 is actually released before believing the results. Either way, it highlights how a well optimized architecture is better than higher clock speeds.
 
Lol what innovative new features? Inferior maps service. Small screen with poor colours. Faster cpu with a locked down OS and no file system access. Crap battery that can't be removed. Poor storage options that are very overpriced.

It's thin? The only thing I like to be thin is my girlfriend. My phones have never been fat

Just wondering you have heard of the term jailbreak? I will help you we will call it rooting. Last I checked android phones do not come rooted and they do not come with access to the OS by default. You must root it much like we have to jailbreak.
 
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