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If you had any way to monitor cpu usage on the iphone.. Which surprise surprise apple won't let you. You would see that in most situations the cores are running at way below max speed. To notice cpu performance you need to be doing sustained load for a period of time.

Again surprised its called a CPU governor and yes android ramps up and down as the CPU is put under a load. It does not sit at max. frequency all the time. Not sure you actually know what your talking about.
 
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Again surprised its called a CPU Govenor and yes android ramps up and down as the CPU is put under a load. It does not sit at max. frequency all the time. Not sure you actually know what your talking about.

I'm 100% sure he doesn't know what he's talking about.
 
That's incorrect. If you're a developer you can run Instruments and see the cpu usage of all of the processes running on the phone. It doesn't have much use for regular users since the OS doesn't generally allow runaway apps to sap the CPU and battery.

Of course the cores are running way below max speed in most situations. Hello? That's the same for every modern computer! Do you think the cores in a desktop PC are always running at max speed? Of course not. *can* they run at max speed if fed a cpu hungry application? Of course. The iPhone is no different there.

We aren't talking development here. We are talking taking advantage of fast cpu in the phone. The iphone doesn't multitask unlike the S3 so it's always just running the app your on which generally are pretty low power. Heck you can't even run flash which the S3 does fantastically. Half the time I'm downloading torrents running messaging clients and browsing all at the same time with no freeze state trickery going on
 
LTE Voice will allow simultaneous voice and cellular data on LTE

The CDMA versions of the iPhone 5 (Verizon and Sprint) don't support simultaneous voice and data. It's partly a limitation of the CDMA network, but other phones, including most Verizon LTE phones, use two radios in order to get around this limitation. The iPhone has only one radio and so it can't. The GSM versions of the iPhone can run simultaneous voice and data.
True, but as soon as the Cellular companies turn on LTE voice, the iPhone 5 will also allow simultaneous voice and cellular data on LTE. Really, the dual radio implementation is a temporary solution that sacrifices efficiency. The iPhone 5 is a bit ahead of the carriers for now. Something nobody seems to be talking about is that the iPhone 5 wont be able to do simultaneous voice and cell data via LTE on AT&T either, as their voice over LTE still has not been implemented. I think that for AT&T if you are already on a voice call and you start using network data it will have to revert down to non LTE 4G for the data.
 
Again surprised its called a CPU Govenor and yes android ramps up and down as the CPU is put under a load. It does not sit at max. frequency all the time. Not sure you actually know what your talking about.

I know exactly what I'm talking about. I never said it ran at full power all the time. Maybe you should learn to read and comprehend before opening your own mouth
 
We aren't talking development here. We are talking taking advantage of fast cpu in the phone. The iphone doesn't multitask unlike the S3 so it's always just running the app your on which generally are pretty low power. Heck you can't even run flash which the S3 does fantastically. Half the time I'm downloading torrents running messaging clients and browsing all at the same time with no freeze state trickery going on

None of that is related to hardware quality. The backgrounding solution and removal of flash support (which is a dying tech) were made in regards to user experience and battery life. Most consumers don't want to have to worry about managing their applications to keep their battery from being depleted, nor are they concerned about downloading torrents on a phone.
 
We aren't talking development here. We are talking taking advantage of fast cpu in the phone. The iphone doesn't multitask unlike the S3 so it's always just running the app your on which generally are pretty low power. Heck you can't even run flash which the S3 does fantastically. Half the time I'm downloading torrents running messaging clients and browsing all at the same time with no freeze state trickery going on

I wasn't talking development either. I was responding to your incorrect assertion that there was no way to monitor CPU usage in an application because "Apple" wouldn't let you.

The iPhone does multitask, there are always many processes running in the background on iOS. You're confusing that with different limitations on enduser apps running on both OSes. You could still set up a situation where iOS is doing several "enduser" things at once, but again that has nothing to do with your original assertion.

You haven't successfully defended your idea that the front most app can not take advantage of a powerful CPU, therefore there is no real advantage to something like the A6. That makes no sense at all.
 
I know exactly what I'm talking about. I never said it ran at full power all the time. Maybe you should learn to read and comprehend before opening your own mouth

Nope went back and read you statement and firmly stand behind what I said. What you said was that the CPU needs to be under a load to reach its max. CPU frequency this is not different in android unless your running a Performance governor. So at this point I have concluded that you don't know what your talking about.
 
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And others are getting nearly 1900. Depends on configurations. This article is quite misleading and guesswork.

No its not. The original article merely states that someone benchmarked the iPhone 5 and got a result of 1601 pts. FACT.
 
Obliterated? With one benchmark score higher by 2%? While at the same time offering 2x RAM, NFC, simultaneous voice and data, wireless charging, higher screen resolution, higher memory capacity. It's pretty clear that SGS3 is a superior phone.

at&t has simultaneous voice and data....

Who really cares about wireless charging?

nfc wont be popular for at least one more year.

What is the ppi for the s3 screen?

64 gigs is plenty of memory built in...

The amazing thing is the new iphone has a much smaller battery. gets better battery life and is faster with lower specs then a s3...
The s3 should have incredible battery life because they have a huge battery(compared to the 5).
 
Note 2 is probably fastest phone...

If the Note doesn't come with a A15 chip, the fastest phone (that'll be released in the near future) in benchmark will probably be LG Optimus G which will have the quadcore Krait chip from Qualcomm.
 
I wasn't talking development either. I was responding to your incorrect assertion that there was no way to monitor CPU usage in an application because "Apple" wouldn't let you.

The iPhone does multitask, there are always many processes running in the background on iOS. You're confusing that with different limitations on enduser apps running on both OSes. You could still set up a situation where iOS is doing several "enduser" things at once, but again that has nothing to do with your original assertion.

You haven't successfully defended your idea that the front most app can not take advantage of a powerful CPU, therefore there is no real advantage to something like the A6. That makes no sense at all.

You talk like I have never had an iphone. I have had 5 of them. I know fully how the iphone works. I once wanted to run a gps tracking app to track my ski progress and speed. I had to leave it running in my pocket and any calls killed the app. It was terrible. Another example of the many limits of iOS. I have an Ipad that is like a giant ipod rather than a tablet. I have had to hack the crap out of it to even make it useful.

I have no such problems on Android. I can use my phone to the max. I can change anything. Do anything. Not limited by anyone. That's freedom you just can't buy on Apple.
 
None of that is related to hardware quality. The backgrounding solution and removal of flash support (which is a dying tech) were made in regards to user experience and battery life. Most consumers don't want to have to worry about managing their applications to keep their battery from being depleted, nor are they concerned about downloading torrents on a phone.

With a 2100mah battery which I can swap out I don't tend to worry either. I also don't lose features in the name of battery life.
 
And others are getting nearly 1900. Depends on configurations. This article is quite misleading and guesswork.

No its not. The original article merely states that someone benchmarked the iPhone 5 and got a result of 1601 pts. FACT.

I also believe it does show a few interesting things, assuming the benchmark is true. A big if but I think it's true because it fits the previous speculations perfectly.

- A6 is a relatively low clock dualcore, but it still has enough raw power to match the current quad core chips in GeekBench test. No wonder Apple was able to maintain the battery life.

- This means it'll feel extremely fast in real life usage on a mobile phone, where many things aren't parallelized unlike GeekBench. Also this is a "stock" device, not on Android where you can change the settings to boost the score artificially.

- Can you imagine if Apple manages clock it up-high and put extra cores for the next year's iPad?

Of course specs do not always matter but what's truly impressive here is that Apple was able to cram in an extremely impressive raw performance in a small package while maintaining the battery life. That's not just spec for specs sake but creating a better end user experience.
 
at&t has simultaneous voice and data....

Who really cares about wireless charging?

nfc wont be popular for at least one more year.

What is the ppi for the s3 screen?

64 gigs is plenty of memory built in...

The amazing thing is the new iphone has a much smaller battery. gets better battery life and is faster with lower specs then a s3...
The s3 should have incredible battery life because they have a huge battery(compared to the 5).

S3 does have better battery life. And you can swap out batteries. My phone has never even been plugged into the wall since I owned it
 
You talk like I have never had an iphone. I have had 5 of them. I know fully how the iphone works. I once wanted to run a gps tracking app to track my ski progress and speed. I had to leave it running in my pocket and any calls killed the app. It was terrible. Another example of the many limits of iOS. I have an Ipad that is like a giant ipod rather than a tablet. I have had to hack the crap out of it to even make it useful.

I have no such problems on Android. I can use my phone to the max. I can change anything. Do anything. Not limited by anyone. That's freedom you just can't buy on Apple.

Your comments are absurd. Hack the crap out of it to even make it useful? Web browsing, FaceTime, reading, watching Netflix, watching movies, listening to music, messaging people, writing emails... These are all quite useful things. I don't know what you are doing with your iPad but your experience doesn't appear to be the norm, given the popularity of the device.
 
You also realised the S3 can run at 1.6ghz easy and probably match or beat that score.

with how much of a decrease in battery life?

This is also the quad core s3 which most people dont have. It would be better to compare the american dual core s3...
 
With a 2100mah battery which I can swap out I don't tend to worry either. I also don't lose features in the name of battery life.

So a dead battery is now a feature? Bet it dies really fast with that performance governor running all the time.
 
Nope went back and read you statement and firmly stand behind what I said. What you said was that the CPU needs to be under a load to reach its max. CPU frequency this is not different in android unless your running a Performance Govenor. So at this point I have concluded that you don't know what your talking about.

I said to see the benefit of a fast cpu you need to run an app that makes the processor run at 100 percent for a period of time. Or basically you won't notice the milliseconds saved.
 
You talk like I have never had an iphone. I have had 5 of them. I know fully how the iphone works. .

You said this

To be honest I would t worry about the performance of the cpu it hardly matters in an iphone anyway. It's so locked down you barely get to use full power anyway. The OS uses pre rendering to get its ui performance and cpu might only really load a Web Page slightly quicker than before.

Which I said was wrong. The fact that iOS is more "locked down" does not mean that you can't use the full power of the chip. One example would be a computationally complex game. Another would be a computationally complex real time audio app. Another could be a drawing app. For some reason you seem to be ignoring front most apps and going off on how you don't like iOS's multitasking implementation. Fine. But your statement is still incorrect - the performance of the iPhone's CPU matters just as it does for any similar type of computer that runs software.
 
get real people.. celebrating a win btw a score of 1601 vs 1560? that's so negligible.

all this tells me is people are so insecure of their phone specs.

apple always gets knocked about specs. Just look at the Samsung hate sheet they released a few days ago about SPECS....

if they wanted to play the spec game apple doesnt need to open its mouth it will be shown by numbers...

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17z7zdg1zu9cujpg/original.jpg
 
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