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Right. On Android you can turn off cores, in fact, certain power management apps do it transparently to the user. You can run a test not even knowing that you running on one core only.

Which should either tell you that the number of cores barely doesn't matter, or that the test isn't reliable. Given that the same phone generates scores that can vary by 1000 points! I really think that anything but an average score is nonsense. I think you missed the sarcasm.
 
NFC
Wireless charging
FM radio
Ability to send files through Bluetooth
USB connector allowing syncing and file operations without iTunes and restrictions
Fully customizable home screens
Ability to use video call with any other phone with that feature
HD resolution screen
True multitasking

Wireless charging -- Yep, that would be nice.

FM radio -- Personally, I don't care about this. Isn't there an app for it???

Ability to send files through Bluetooth -- I was wondering about this. I used to be able to do it on my 3GS. But I have unlimited Data so using email is fine for me.

USB connector allowing syncing and file operations without iTunes and restrictions -- That's simply not Apple. You know that. That's their way. Right or Wrong. It has advantages and disadvantages. But I can throw just about any movie file onto my iPhone in one simple step with an app like AVplayerHD or Cinexplayer.


Fully customizable home screens -- Couldn't care less about this. (and yes, this is the correct expression for the UK, NZ, Aust and other countries. While in America the expression is "Could Care Less"). But I can see why others do care.

Ability to use video call with any other phone with that feature -- I've never used video call and I reckon that most don't use it and don't want to use it apart from very rare occasions. But I guess there is a small percentage of people who would like this - particularly businesses.

HD resolution screen -- doesn't the new Ip5 have a 16:9 screen at about 330 dpi? Isn't that enough?

True multitasking - Yeah, I could use that, but more for my iPad than iPhone.

I think for the majority of casual users of phones the iphone represents something that is just easy to use and has a safe and robust OS. If you're a bit of a geek (nothing wrong with that), then the iphone isn't really for you. If you want to play around with a phone then Android phones are better. I'm also not young enough to think my phone is an extension of me!
 
Looking up the list of the competition that would mean that - if these numbers are true - the iPhone 5 would be the fastest phone on the market.

Nothing infuriates me more than Fandroids looking at spec sheets to determine what is better. OBVIOUSLY Android phones need more under the hood to compete with an iPhone with lower raw specs. That is clear.

The link to the Android list:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks

EDIT: Its even beating their tablets. The only thing that comes close is the Nexus 7 and the SIII but the iPhone beats them both.

dont worry there will be 18 new android POS phones out in 3 weeks with 3 gigs or ram and 6.5 mhz hexacore processors..lol:rolleyes:
 
Soooo how do these stack up to computers from about 5 years ago? They can't be that far apart right? Is there a way to compare the 2 platforms?

It's about 40% the speed of a Quad G5, although it's equipped with much faster memory than the G5 was +on-die memory system. The Quad scored about 3500-3600. Course, the G5 was also on a 90nm process... enormous compared to today.
 
As we know, there's Android devices that can natively compute faster than the leaked iPhone 5 geekbench shows.

I currently own a S3.. I'll agree that you can get many dual core/quad core Android devices to compute faster, I still think the Android experience is still risky and buggy after all this time. Stock rom and custom roms.. I find some things to still yet work properly or act weird..

Why do I always feel like i'm using a beta OS everytime I use Android? I never got the same feeling of trust that iOS was able to provide me.

So who cares about speed, I think quality of the software should be leaps and bounds more important here.

But that's my opinion.. and I probably will still ride my S3 out for a long as I can and just 'deal' with weird oddities throughout ownership..

Lack of confidence my phone's battery will be adequate at various points of the day gets old.. Sometimes grabbing my S3 and seeing I have like 20% left even though i've been off the charger for 8 hours.. looking at my battery usage and seeing that the Gallery app (of which i never ran after a fresh reboot) is somehow destroying my battery in the background.

It's stupid crap like this that makes me feel that even if the iPhone isn't the raw powerhouse of some Android devices, i'd rather have something reliable and dependable whilst having the technology close enough (even in terms of compute power) to the best of the best Android devices.

The iPhone 5 looks to deliver (so far).

Typed on my S3, btw :p
 
I was talking mostly about future proof hardware, but speaking of OS, the Android OS updates are not as important to an Android user as iOS updates to an iPhone user: exactly because Android OS is future proof.

Android had these important OS feature for ages (most since version 1.0-1.6): copy/paste, voice command, multitasking, wireless sync, notifications, resolution independent UI, widgets, USB storage, custom keyboards. That is future-proof.

iPhone user, on the other hand, has to wait each year to get a new bone, which than declared "revolutionary" and "innovative".

WHAATTT? You are absolutely wrong about "Android OS updates are not as important to an Android user". I don't even know where to start with that comment. Android users go NUTS when a new version of Android comes out and most of them wont get it unless they buy a new phone. As soon as its released the old version becomes garbage. I can't believe you even said that.
 
Which should either tell you that the number of cores barely doesn't matter, or that the test isn't reliable. Given that the same phone generates scores that can vary by 1000 points! I really think that anything but an average score is nonsense. I think you missed the sarcasm.

I did not miss your sarcasm. I just turned it to my advantage, making my point.

Of corse these scores are always different. They depend on apps, services, processes your are running, battery remaining and even room temperature.

Funny: when the iphone scores are lower, suddenly these tests are declared unreliable and specs are unimportant again.
 
I was talking mostly about future proof hardware, but speaking of OS, the Android OS updates are not as important to an Android user as iOS updates to an iPhone user: exactly because Android OS is future proof.

Android had these important OS feature for ages (most since version 1.0-1.6): copy/paste, voice command, multitasking, wireless sync, notifications, resolution independent UI, widgets, USB storage, custom keyboards. That is future-proof.

iPhone user, on the other hand, has to wait each year to get a new bone, which than declared "revolutionary" and "innovative".

Lol, you can drop that last line. I'm not going to be swayed by your baseless android talking point. Sure Apple hails their devices as innovative and revolutionary - not specifically "cut and paste".

As for the OS, are you really going to say that an OS which with its latest iteration (JB) and accompanying Project Butter is just beginning to match iOS's stability and smoothness (only on 1.2% of Android devices 5 months after its launch) is future proof?

Some of those software "innovations" aren't important to most iPhone users. Widgets, different keyboards, customizable UI are all things I couldn't care less about (and actually prefer to not have to mess with). There's nothing wrong with Android - for people who like those things, hooray for them. But many times Android (Samsung in particular) adds useless software tweaks for the sake of adding some brand new feature. TBH I'd argue Android users are more swayed by marketing than Apple users are.

I don't need things like S-Beam, Flip to mute or palm swipe whatever. I can click the mute button, hit my sleep button or send photos via iMessage, Email, numerous apps or now over photo stream.

No phone is future proof. Technology will evolve and handset makers will continue to build new phones and market them as the next big innovation. Samsung seems more guilty of it than Apple this time around (with that ridiculous ad). Apple is content to give users features they need in an efficient/easy way.

To each his own.

EDIT: Oh and what is the slogan for the iPhone 5? "The biggest thing to happen to the iPhone since iPhone". Apple doesn't need to compare it's products to other companies'. They improve upon their existing hardware and software. I don't think ANYONE, including those at Apple, would tell you their products are PERFECT. Tech is always evolving/improving.
 
the nokia 920 has amazing specs but then again windows 8? lol what do you want for support on that crap? as far as windows phone 8.2 in the future and that will be it? no thanks I'll stick to iOS...

lol @ galaxy s3 mad fans

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Cause people run tests under different conditions. Many people forget to exit apps and shutdown processes, that certainly affects score.

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and:

Twice more RAM
Faster processor
Super AMOLED (deeper blacks)
Larger screen (while smaller screens available on other Galaxy models)
Available custom keyboards
SD card
Replaceable battery
IPS technology gives more accurate color than AMOLED

that's a FACT
 
If this is real, and the next iPhone gets a speed bump or performance boost then it'll easily be faster than most MacBook Airs!

This iPhone is faster than any PowerPC Mac G4 period (dual core included), and faster than most of the G5 Macs. This iPhone 5 is even faster than three dual-core G5s!

If this iPhone were quad core, then in theory, it would be faster than most Core 2 Duos! Wow, maybe the next iPhone will be Quad-Core.

In any case, this is amazing, two faster cores are always better than slower quad cores. You only need dual threaded process to maximize the performance than fine tuning 4 threads. Even if the S3 had the same or better performance, Android would have to do a single process on all 4 cores to get the same performance as a much simpler dual threaded process.

I know iOS and OS X run on much different hardware, and the software itself is hard to compare, but still the RAW performance is still amazing! Again, if the benchmark is real.
 
IPS technology gives more accurate color than AMOLED
that's a FACT
Colors accuracy is a matter of calibration.

IPS is still old tech glorified backlit LCD with all the baggage: power hungry, limited saturation, bad black levels, poor angle views, thick, non bendable. It's on the way out. Currently Apple can not afford OLED so excuses are made once again, but when the time comes Apple will probably innovate some buzzy marketing name for it.
 
The Geekbench for the iPhone 5 has prompted many highly optimized, overclocked SG3s to submit their scores to improve the average.. It's working :p

you keep thinking that.

"When Apple announced iPhone 5, it had claimed that the A6 chip featured in the new iPhone will furnish up to 2x power and performance. New Geekbench results have now surfaced which show iPhone 5 scoring 1601 in that particular benchmark. Since iPhone 5 hasn’t yet hit the shelves, it is hard to discern whether or not these results are fake or real, but they are plausible. However, what they do reveal is that iPhone 5 beats Samsung Galaxy S3 by a narrow margin. The latter scored 1560 in the test. The Galaxy S3 with Jelly Bean (Android 4.1) is also said to score above 1700, which is weird for a CPU test…

It is rather interesting that the OS running on a given handset significantly affects Geekbench tests. For instance, while a Galaxy S3 running Ice Cream Sandwich scores lower than iPhone 5, one running Jelly Bean beats the iPhone 5. Most of the Snapdragon S4 handset we tried score in the 15xx range."

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/09/geekbench-results-iphone-5-beats-galaxy-s3/
 
I was talking mostly about future proof hardware, but speaking of OS, the Android OS updates are not as important to an Android user as iOS updates to an iPhone user: exactly because Android OS is future proof.

Android had these important OS feature for ages (most since version 1.0-1.6): copy/paste, voice command, multitasking, wireless sync, notifications, resolution independent UI, widgets, USB storage, custom keyboards. That is future-proof.

iPhone user, on the other hand, has to wait each year to get a new bone, which than declared "revolutionary" and "innovative".

1.2% of Android handsets run the latest OS

57.5% of devices are still on an OS that's nearly 2 years old


Ill just leave this here
http://www.androidcentral.com/why-you-ll-never-have-latest-version-android
 
The Geekbench for the iPhone 5 has prompted many highly optimized, overclocked SG3s to submit their scores to improve the average.. It's working :p

:)

I think it's more like some Android owners thought - hmm, wonder what my geekbench score is... I ran it earlier today on my S3 and got over 2080. Not overclocked or "highly optimised" (whatever that means), though I am running Jelly Bean which isn't officially released yet - Samsung has been leaking it like a colander. It looks to me that ICS isn't much different though.

I suspect the reports (mostly in Apple orientated sites it seems) about the iPhone 5 beating the average Android score prompted more than just me to see what scores we get. But it's not a realistic comparison until we get a similar number of iPhone 5's running the benchmark so that we get a true average across both platforms.

But anyway, undoubtedly the iPhone has gained significantly. The iPhone 4 and 4s are way behind in these benchmarks so nice to see that it's caught up. Not that the previous ones were that slow I guess. Lies, damn lies and statistics - makes for great link bait and forum fodder :).
 
1.2% of Android handsets run the latest OS

57.5% of devices are still on an OS that's nearly 2 years old


Ill just leave this here
http://www.androidcentral.com/why-you-ll-never-have-latest-version-android

What Saturn88 is saying is that Android has so much features from the beginning that they don't really need to upgrade their hardware, going back to version 1.0-1.6.

I'd love to believe him if I wasn't once stuck with a Donut (1.6) Android phone. I mean...man...I'd rather be stuck with the first generation iPod Touch before having to use that again.

Then again, we're replying to a person who's obviously trolling like no tomorrow. Android 1.0-1.6 was "future proof"? :|
 
Colors accuracy is a matter of calibration.

But you're ignoring gamut as part of the equation. Who cares if all 7 colors your phone can display are accurate if it can't display the other 16 million?

IPS is still old tech glorified backlit LCD with all the baggage: power hungry,

Consumes less than comparable OLED with white screen.

limited saturation,
Currently has better gamut than OLED.

bad black levels,
. They are worse, yes, but is it distracting? Bad looking? Matter of opinion.

poor angle views,
False. IPS displays have virtual 180 degree viewing angles.

So thick they're in the thinnest smartphone available, eh?

non bendable.
Not relevant to phones.

It's on the way out. Currently Apple can not afford OLED so excuses are made once again, but when the time comes Apple will probably innovate some buzzy marketing name for it.

It has lifetime concerns, gamut issues, power consumption issues on white-heavy images, and for a quite a while, simply hadn't been available in volumes apple needed. It also can't match the full RGB pixel density of LCD tech. Your post is a bunch of misinformation.
 
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