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release in June with the following prices.

iPhone 3GS (only 8 gig)
Stays $0 on Contract
Reduced to $250 unlocked

iPhone 4 (only 8 gig)
Reduced to $50 on Contract
Reduced to $375 unlocked

iPhone 4S (only 8 gig)
Reduced to $100 on COntract
Reduced to $499 on unlocked
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iPhone 5 (16 gig)
$200 on Contract/$650 unlcoked
iPhone 5 (32 gig)
$300 on Contract/$750 unlcoked

Fin.

No 64GB model for the 5 when the 4S has it?

Plus, 3GS is getting long in the tooth and this would be their time to drop it.
 
I'm quite convinced the future iPhone will be called iPhone LTE, or iPhone 4G, etc... But IMHO, it should just be: iPhone.

After all, we have iMac and MacBook Pro for long time. Every model is just the "new iMac" and "new MacBookPro". So, it should be the "new iPhone"... period.

Keep it simple Apple!

Spid
 
Then what happened to the iPhone 2?. Why is the 4S not called 5 then? I think people are just seeing patterns where none exist

The 3G was called that because it had 3G, and the "S" versions just meant "same but kinda better than before".

So a new one would either be something about 4G (iPhone LTE) or the iPhone 6. Tell me how iPhone 5 makes sense.

They need to change the title.
 
iOS 5 was previewed over the summer but not released to the public until the fall. Big difference. You implied that a new iOS version would be released over the summer to hold people over until the iPhone.

I still had my iOS5 on an iPhone 4 before I was able to buy a 4S. :D
 
Thank You... I thought I was the only one noticing this. Everyone is assuming it'll be called iPhone 5, when it isn't even the 5th phone.

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iPhone 3G was the 2nd iPhone. They called it 3G because of the signal it could receive, not because it was number 3, cos it wasn't.

Exactly.

iPhone 6, people!
(or iPhone LTE)
 
It only makes sense...

It will be October if Apple is using their business minds.. A) That is the start of their fiscal year, why not get a better gauge of how to spend the rest of the year than by dropping your bomb first and build off that buzz... B) Shortage runs out right before Black Friday, in time for biggest day of year.... C) Finally abundant at Christmas time, why not have your biggest buzz/supply at the biggest shopping time of year?
 
Exactly.

iPhone 6, people!
(or iPhone LTE)

I thought I clarified this, Apple won't call it iPhone 6 for this very reason...it will confuse WAAAAAAAAAAY too many people. Everyone will say, "what happened to the 5???"

Too further clarify this, the iPhone 5 (as it will be called) doesn't represent generation number. OBVIOUSLY!!!!! So your own logic is flawed. 3G = iPhone 2nd gen, they didn't call it iPhone 2 now did they? The iPhone 4 simply lined up with the generation number.
 
I think the easiest way to tell will be when they reveal iOS 6. If it is done at the iPad event or sometime shortly after, then it's likely the iPhone will be coming out in June. If we hear nothing by June then it's clear that the next iPhone won't be coming out until at least fall.
 
Makes sense on Apple's part but I have to admit I was hoping for a June/July release (right around my bday!). I don't want to wait til October *pout*.

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I think the easiest way to tell will be when they reveal iOS 6. If it is done at the iPad event or sometime shortly after, then it's likely the iPhone will be coming out in June. If we hear nothing by June then it's clear that the next iPhone won't be coming out until at least fall.

And I think you get the prize... honestly this will be the biggest teller. Though I suspect this rumor is probably more valid than the one claiming June (as much as I want the June rumor to be true).
 
Not smart move by Apple (if true). Too many iPhone 4 owners would be well past their upgrade time (including me). Need something to release in June.

Really? You do realize that was the same thing last year when they put the 4s out in October (Several people with 3GS's were expiring somewhere around June or earlier). They still waited til October and had great success.

I think a better argument is releasing it in October has it near Christmas and a brand new shiny model just in time for the holidays. Really, it just make more sense for them to release it October, especially if they aren't going to do much for the ipods anymore.

And trust me, I'm not saying this cause I want it to be in October, I'm one of the ones whose upgrade is up at the end of this month actually (and I got the 4 when it came out so in June it will be exactly two years).
 
Don't care.

Getting new iPhone this year.

Whenever it's released, don't care

Getting new iPhone this year.

Ahaa! That made me giggle a bit. Same here. :D

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First of all, you cannot compare different architectures based on clock speed. Second, you assume that all things are equal on the software side of things between iOS and Android which they are not.

The proof is in the pudding or rather the benchmarks in this case. How much memory a system has could be more of a reflection of how inefficient the OS is than anything else.

Show me an android system that does not have UI lag compared to iOS devices and then we can talk turkey. Until that happens, all the clock speed in the world does not add up to a hill of beans.

This is the part which people don't understand.

They think 1GHz is always better than 777MHz. Nevermind.
 
All ARM processors be it a Qualcomm Snapdragon found in a lot of Android smartphones or the A5 series designed by Apple support the base CPU instruction set from the ARM reference platform but that is where the similarities end.

Both AMD and Intel processor have a high level of compatibility for the X86 instruction set but nobody would compare CPUs from each company based on clock speed. Rather, they would look at the benchmarks.

Apple took a particular ARM reference generation and modified it heavily and included a dual core GPU into the system on a chip A5 in addition to a dual core CPU.

Many of the Android System on a Chip packages have a GPU (graphics chip) that is a generation behind the one in the A5 and they also are likely not dual core despite being dual core on the CPU side of things.

Because of these architectural differences, you cannot compare them based on specs alone but you have to look at the benchmark scores.

The A5 consistently outperforms all current Android SOC's on GPU (graphics) tasks and is able to keep up with faster clocked chips on CPU tasks because of a combination of software optimization and CPU/memory bus optimization not found on Android devices because the latter usually took a reference platform design and just churned it out without doing anything other than possibly increasing the clock speed.

Thanks for the informative post. Although, in my original evaluation, I did mention that the iPhone has the better GPU. So if clock speeds can't be used to compare chips, what's the point? Or is it just for marketing purposes so people think they have a better processor (all other things equal)?
 
Thanks for the informative post. Although, in my original evaluation, I did mention that the iPhone has the better GPU. So if clock speeds can't be used to compare chips, what's the point? Or is it just for marketing purposes so people think they have a better processor (all other things equal)?
You hit the nail on the head there. Clock speeds mean nothing with current SOC systems, but if you want to market an Android phone as superior to the iPhone, you'll want to mention that it has more RAM and a "faster" processor. You're not going to mention that its performance lags in comparison, because, well, that's not the sort of information that's going to sell more phones now, is it?

It's the MHz myth all over again...
 
I think the easiest way to tell will be when they reveal iOS 6. If it is done at the iPad event or sometime shortly after, then it's likely the iPhone will be coming out in June. If we hear nothing by June then it's clear that the next iPhone won't be coming out until at least fall.

I logged in just to say: Exactly!

If they keep releasing a new version of ios with iphone. They have to give developers time to get their apps ready which means they preview it months early which means if they don't preview it at the iPad event or soon after they'll do it at WWDC which means the next iPhone comes in the fall.
Guess I said more than exactly.
 
How do u explain the iphone 4S naming then?

Yep, the 5th generation iPhone was called 4S, only because it was a faster iPhone 4 (S is for speed). But cammon mate, does it seem logical to name the 6th generation and iPhone 5? Think twice, PLEASE!

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Thank you voice of reason...

Apple names their phone whatever they think will be 'catchy' and sell more phones...it has no relation to the generation number. This should have been APPEARENT by '3G'. This is FACT.

/thread :p

It just seems like a more intelligent name for the 6th generation iPhone, everyone is still trapped in the past, waiting for an inexistent iPhone 5! ;)

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Then what happened to the iPhone 2?. Why is the 4S not called 5 then? I think people are just seeing patterns where none exist

1. iPhone (Original): was the first, so no need for secondary names
2. iPhone 3G: here the number 3 does not refer to generation, but to 3G tech.
3. iPhone 3GS: an iPhone 3G, but faster
4. iPhone 4: here, 4 refers to the generation of the iPhone, the 4th.
5. iPhone 4S: an iPhone 4, but faster

6. So you trying to say that is LOGICAL to call the 6th generation an iPhone 5? Give it a hard thought!


This is my only rant here, STOP CALLING IT IPHONE 5, it has gone and will never come back!

Let's just call it the 6th generation iPhone!
 
would prefer a summer release myself as my current contract runs out in August. think I'll just keep the iPhone 4 with a pay as you go SIM until the new iPhone is released.
 
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Lets just call it "the sixth generation iphone?" theres android phones out with shorter names than that.
 
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iPhone 5 sounds lame. I sense a design and name change to something more catchy.

iPhone 5.1 some pronounce 5 dot 1 but apple never says at key note only calling it iPhone.

Just cause it makes people talk.
What's the .1?
Did I miss one?
Have you seen the new iPhone 5.1? No your wrong it's 5. No your wrong it's 5.1.

And so gossip spreads job done word of mouth spreads and product gains more interest.
 
Wait, the iPhone 4S had slightly outdated specs?

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Huh, must mean the iPhone 6 will have even lower specs. :rolleyes:

Not advocating the "out-of-date" comment in the slightest, however, a browser-based benchmark is not really the best benchmark to highlight your point. Your own image highlights just how OS-dependant the results are in that it shows the 3GS beating an iPhone 4 when they run different versions of iOS. Further, I just benchmarked my Galaxy S2 (Android 4.0.3) and it scored 109,963. I say this not in a "my phone is better than yours" fashion, solely in a "that's a very inconclusive benchmark" way.
 
Well, although I would love to update my iP4 this summer when my contract runs out, I don't think I will have to worry either way. I won't be on contract and I can bargain like a camel trader with the carrier when the new phone comes out.

Sooo. Potential iPad3 purchase around March/Appr, update/exchange my MBA 2010 with MBP refresh in June/July, and then Sept Oct a new phone.

Does kind of spread out the spending which ain't bad!

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I would also be willing to wager that the release of any Apple products is well thought out by comparison to any competition's new and best releases. Just look what happened with the BB Playbook etc.

Part of it is related to OS upgrades, competetor's releases, and hardware availibility I would wager. Also, taking into consideration the market and if there is a huge hunger for a specific product. They always want to beat the competition to the punch. That way they get the money spent on Apple products rather than someone going... damn I wanted that, but I already bought... because I thought I would have to wait too long.

Releasing a product at an ideal time to develop the appropriate hype without having to release on the tail of the competetion's releases.

I wager there is MUCH more consideration in their release dates other than the "It's due for a refresh because it's been a year".

Just my two cents.
 
The bad part is, it's going to be a 4" screen... so I don't know why I even care when it's going to come out since I won't want one.

Why wouldn't you want a 4" screen? The phone itself doesn't really have to get any bigger to incorporate a 4" display. I hate big brick phones. But 4" is just perfect. The positives outweigh the negatives by a ton. Browsing, Reading, etc. My wife has a DInc2 with a 4" display and although I hate Android, it's form factor is beautiful. And it's no bigger then my 4S. Apple isn't into making things big and bulky, so you don't have to worry about that at all. I'm willing to bet an iphone with a 4" display will look and feelp perfect.

The only thing that would even remotely concern me would be battery life if they do happen to incorporate a 4" display and LTE. But I would hope Apple put a ton of time into the battery..Which I'm sure they did. They could have easily put LTE into the 4S to keep up with the competition, but they didn't. So rushing it out before it was ready was not in their agenda.
 
Exactly.

iPhone 6, people!
(or iPhone LTE)

I don't think many people outside the US use the term LTE. We refer to it as 4G. Also many people won't be able to use the LTE/4G facility at launch coz they don't have a 4G network yet.

No matter how loudly you shout going from iPhone 4S to iPhone 6 will just confuse everyone. Apple like to keep it simple so it'll be the iPhone 5 then next year the iPhone 5S then the iPhone 6, iPhone 6S, etc. So they only change the number when there is a new design rather than an internal upgrade.
 
Yep, the 5th generation iPhone was called 4S, only because it was a faster iPhone 4 (S is for speed). But cammon mate, does it seem logical to name the 6th generation and iPhone 5? Think twice, PLEASE!




1. iPhone (Original): was the first, so no need for secondary names
2. iPhone 3G: here the number 3 does not refer to generation, but to 3G tech.
3. iPhone 3GS: an iPhone 3G, but faster
4. iPhone 4: here, 4 refers to the generation of the iPhone, the 4th.
5. iPhone 4S: an iPhone 4, but faster

6. So you trying to say that is LOGICAL to call the 6th generation an iPhone 5? Give it a hard thought!


This is my only rant here, STOP CALLING IT IPHONE 5, it has gone and will never come back!

Let's just call it the 6th generation iPhone!

By that logic the iPhone 4S would have been called the iPhone 5. It wasn't becuase that's not the logic that Apple is following.

It's not that hard to work it out: New number for new design. Add a letter instead if it's an internal upgrade. Very simple. It has NOTHING to do with what generation or what release it is.

iPhone 4 = New design
iPhone 4S = Internal upgrade
iPhone 5 = New design
iPhone 5S = Internal upgrade
iPhone 6 = New design
iPhone 6S = Internal upgrade

Are you getting it yet?
 
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