iPhone 5 is the best phone in the world

[aohus]

True, the number doesnt matter because most are crap...in both app stores. Android doesn however have many queality apps and many good ones that Apple doesnt have and of course vice versa so really it doesnt matter. The Apps shouldnt be a concern for choosing either.

I'd argue that iOS ecosystem has pretty much most of the apps that Android has, and more. Maybe a handful of apps that are on Android that are not on Apple's ecosystem. In terms of the popular top-tier apps, they're about parity to one another I'd say.

However....... there are thousands of Apps in the Apple iTunes store that never get downloaded. Like 400,00 of them

This can be said for many, many Android apps as well.

 

[Olivia23]

LOL, really? I had the Droid Razr Maxx the same time I had my 4s. The Maxx lasted a full DAY longer than the 4s and that was running LTE against the 4s running 3G. The Maxx's 3300MAH battery will easily outlast that tiny little 1440MAH in the iphone 5 and by a mile.

I have the Droid Razr Maxx and cannot get a full day battery on it. Also since ICS update, can no longer watch flash videos since adobe is no longer supporting mobile devices. iPhone 5 here I come!

 

[rman726]

Don't forget that battery life charts use different methods. For example:

Anandtech's battery life charts are created this way:



Apple's battery life tests are done this way:


Clever wording, but it's the same test they've always used. What they mean is, they use their own servers connected to their own in-house LTE test network, and access one web page every three minutes, in order to simulate casual browsing and slow reading.

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One test is non-stop and getting five hours over LTE sounds amazing. The other is fairly slow and getting eight hours could depend more on the screen brightness than actual comms. So there's no way to do a valid comparison until an iPhone 5 is tested next to another LTE phone in the same situation.

I might worry about what some companies announce as battery life compared to real world usage, but I don't worry about Apple. They have always been accurate. I don't ever remember reading a review on an Apple product where the battery life was worse than what Apple claimed. I remember when the iPad was released, there were reviews all over the place where reviewers found that the battery life was actually better (Example).

Of course there are always going to be rotten egg devices. There are definitely claims of some devices having battery issues, but they typically seem to be software related which are fixed in updates, or at worst Apple will give you a replacement in the store.

 

[fertilized-egg]

It's the best phone in the world for me, and that's what matters.

Yes everybody's criteria differs. This is a phone I'd happy to carry in my pocket all day. The combination of the smaller size and the improved technology plus the battery life exceeded my expectations. The reduced volume isn't something Apple talked much but I think they should've.

When you think about it, Apple crammed some of the best available technology - allegedly the first A15 chip in action, LTE, larger and more importantly improved screen, better camera, etc, into the smallest high-end smartphone on the market that's even smaller than the iPhone 4S. All this while keeping the battery life reasonable.

Just as importantly, it no longer has a whole-glass back! That alone will deter a ton of naysayers. Yet it does seem Apple kept the feeling of premium fit&finish. I'm very surprised it doesn't get any love but I guess that's mainly because it superficially looks similar to the predecessor from the front.

 

[Marli]

There is no way the iPhone 5 will have an 8 hour browsing battery life in the real world. I say it will last about 3 to 4 hours in real world situation.. I will bet money on it..

I will get one anyway..

 

[Vegastouch]

I'd argue that iOS ecosystem has pretty much most of the apps that Android has, and more. Maybe a handful of apps that are on Android that are not on Apple's ecosystem. In terms of the popular top-tier apps, they're about parity to one another I'd say.



This can be said for many, many Android apps as well.

Im sure you can, i was just showing somehting that im sure most had no idea about and there are many that argue that Apple has more apps which, as i showed, who cares!

Windows has only about 100,000 now but they have all the apps i use so im good.

 

[aohus]

And as far as battery performance, my Evo 4G LTE (Sprint's rebrand of HTC One X), lasts day and a half with moderate to heavy usage. Few hours of videos, few hours of browsing, bunch of emails/texts, and so on. I am sure iPhone 5 will be similar. Screaming "ZOMG BEST PHONE EVAR!1!!1!one", and trying to put down other real world tested phones, before you can get to try it yourself is simply idiotic.

It does about 4.5 hours of LTE browsing. 8 hours for the iP5 is quite a jump. We'll see when the device actually comes out, but based on Apple's history of battery life accuracy, they've been pretty good about it, especially with the iPad.

 

[b166er]

Apple has not "fixed" the LTE issue. Don't be fooled by any of it. Your real world usage times are going to be all over the map. New tech, bigger screen, not all that much bigger battery, etc.

Again, I think the phone looks cool, but I know that 8 hours of browsing on LTE stat is not true. Not real browsing anyway. How bright is the screen? how many tasks are running in the back round? Location services? Email? Music? 8 hours in a lab and 8 hours in real life are much different, and you all know it. Again, we'll see all the negative threads about battery life in a week or so.

 

[KPOM]

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It does about 4.5 hours of LTE browsing. 8 hours for the iP5 is quite a jump. We'll see when the device actually comes out, but based on Apple's history of battery life accuracy, they've been pretty good about it, especially with the iPad.

There's a reason they waited a year to add LTE. The new Qualcomm chips are good, and the Cortex A15 is well worth the wait. Apple beat Samsung and TI to the punch in getting that chip out.

It may not get 8 hours except in the best of conditions, but I would not be surprised at all to see it at the top of Anand's charts when he does his review, despite having a battery barely larger than the 4S.

 

[THE JUICEMAN]

The PPI is kind of meaningness, how can you say a lower resolution screen is better than 720p screen, I doubt any average person can find 326ppi iphone is sharper than any of the current 720p android phones.

This is not true. Go hold an iPhone 4S next to a Galaxy S3, Galaxy Nexus, Droid Razr and go the same web page on them all. Say macrumors for example. Turn the brightness all the way up on all 3 and tell me which one looks better. IMHO iPhone wins every time. Samsung is still using that Pentile display technology and I for one don't like it. The S3 is a good phone though.

 

[aohus]

There's a reason they waited a year to add LTE. The new Qualcomm chips are good, and the Cortex A15 is well worth the wait. Apple beat Samsung and TI to the punch in getting that chip out.

It may not get 8 hours except in the best of conditions, but I would not be surprised at all to see it at the top of Anand's charts when he does his review, despite having a battery barely larger than the 4S.

indeed

 

[KPOM]

This is not true. Go hold an iPhone 4S next to a Galaxy S3, Galaxy Nexus, Droid Razr and go the same web page on them all. Say macrumors for example. Turn the brightness all the way up on all 3 and tell me which one looks better. IMHO iPhone wins every time. Samsung is still using that Pentile display technology and I for one don't like it. The S3 is a good phone though.

True. Of all the phones announced, only the Nokia Lumia 920 (barely) has a higher PPI and an IPS screen. The iPhone 5 looks like a winner to me.

 

[rman726]

Apple has not "fixed" the LTE issue. Don't be fooled by any of it. Your real world usage times are going to be all over the map. New tech, bigger screen, not all that much bigger battery, etc.

Again, I think the phone looks cool, but I know that 8 hours of browsing on LTE stat is not true. Not real browsing anyway. How bright is the screen? how many tasks are running in the back round? Location services? Email? Music? 8 hours in a lab and 8 hours in real life are much different, and you all know it. Again, we'll see all the negative threads about battery life in a week or so.

You're right. Apple hasn't fixed the LTE issue. Qualcomm has. The issue with LTE phones is that before you needed two separate chips, one for voice services and one for LTE, which of course used a lot more battery. The Qualcomm MDM9615 chip includes LTE and voice services on a single chip. Hence you get vastly improved battery life on LTE.

 

[miss.manson]

I'm sorry but when the leaks popped up I thought it was ugly, and I still do. Just doesn't look right to me, but to each his own. I like that it has LTE and new internal upgrades.

 

[Meanee]

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It does about 4.5 hours of LTE browsing. 8 hours for the iP5 is quite a jump. We'll see when the device actually comes out, but based on Apple's history of battery life accuracy, they've been pretty good about it, especially with the iPad.

Again, with Apple's artificial test, I would wait for a street date and real world test.

And my phone is HTC One X (Sprint version) which, according to the chart, does 5.5 hours. And note, it's using 2000 mAh battery, compared to Droid Maxx 3300 mAh. It's all about the SoC, and implementation.

The first LTE phone ever in US (HTC Thunderbolt) got few hours of battery life total. Another Droid followed, not much better. All due to LTE radio being separate from SOC. My old Evo 3D sucked on WiMAX. Battery died fast. But new generation of SOCs where LTE radio is built in is changing everything. And HTC One X is one of the phones using it. And I am sure iPhone is also using same technology.

I am not saying that iPhone 5 has crap battery or anything, but I think it's way too early to boast a feature that nobody had a chance to try yet.

 

[Technarchy]

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It does about 4.5 hours of LTE browsing. 8 hours for the iP5 is quite a jump. We'll see when the device actually comes out, but based on Apple's history of battery life accuracy, they've been pretty good about it, especially with the iPad.

Apple doesn't fabricate battery life claims. Anandtech's findings match what I get with my 4S in the real world. I have no doubt the iPhone 5 will be the same.

 

[walie]

Apple doesn't fabricate battery life claims. Anandtech's findings match what I get with my 4S in the real world. I have no doubt the iPhone 5 will be the same.

Well no wonder

I'm an opportunistic charger. If I can charge I will. Doesn't matter how much power I have at that moment.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/15201165/

 

[skidbubble]

I am not taking apple's word on battery life. I want to use it in real world conditions to see if it can really live up to those expectations.

This x1000. Funny how the iPhone fan base gets selective memory and chooses to pretend BatteryGate 2011 never happened. There were countless reports here and elsewhere where people's iPhones went from fully charged 100% to 0% dead in an hour.

 

[mcdj]

An 8 hour battery makes it the best phone in the world? If I solder a car battery to my old Motorola Star Tac and get 72 hours of battery life, does that make it the new best phone in the world?

 

[Meanee]

An 8 hour battery makes it the best phone in the world? If I solder a car battery to my old Motorola Star Tac and get 72 hours of batter, does that make it the new best phone in the world?

No, but I am sure as hell would pay money to see you walk around the city with it and place calls.

 

[lilo777]

Funny OP mentioned iPhone maps as an advantage 3D maps, really? Google maps can do it too but I am pretty sure people use maps in 2D 99.99% of the time. And Google maps is much more than pretty pictures. The wealth of information collected by Google (and incorporated into maps in different forms) is unmatched. There is simply no comparison.

 

[lordofthereef]

"The iPhone 5 is the best phone in the world" basically turned into an argument over whether or not it has better battery life than the competition. Well ok. If battery life is the only thing that makes it the best phone in the world, sure, it can have that title.

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Funny OP mentioned iPhone maps as an advantage 3D maps, really? Google maps can do it too but I am pretty sure people use maps in 2D 99.99% of the time. And Google maps is much more than pretty pictures. The wealth of information collected by Google (and incorporated into maps in different forms) is unmatched. There is simply no comparison.

True, but turn by turn is key, at least for me. It will be nice to have that baked into the OS. We are getting all of this in the 4S anyway, so the point is moot.

 

[skidbubble]

When you think about it, Apple crammed some of the best available technology - allegedly the first A15 chip in action, LTE, larger and more importantly improved screen, better camera, etc, into the smallest high-end smartphone on the market that's even smaller than the iPhone 4S. All this while keeping the battery life reasonable.

Funny, every picture I have seen with the two phones side by side the iPhone 5 is bigger, not smaller.

 

[lilo777]

"The iPhone 5 is the best phone in the world" basically turned into an argument over whether or not it has better battery life than the competition. Well ok. If battery life is the only thing that makes it the best phone in the world, sure, it can have that title.

It may not be enough for many though (even if it was true which it is not). It also has less RAM, less memory capacity (SGSIII may go higher with flash card), smaller screen, lower screen resolution, lower camera resolution (compared to Sony, Nokia), no NFC or barometer (ok, not everyone needs this one )

 

[fertilized-egg]

Funny, every picture I have seen with the two phones side by side the iPhone 5 is bigger, not smaller.

3D, not 2D:

iPhone 4S: 4.5 x 2.31 x 0.37 = 3.85 inch ^3
iPhone 5: 4.87 x 2.31 x 0.3 = 3.37 inch^3

As a comparison, here's Samsung's jump in size from Galaxy S2 to S3:

Galaxy S2: 4.93 x 2.6 x 0.334 = 4.28 inch ^3
Galaxy S3: 5.38 x 2.78 x 0.34 = 5.09 inch ^3

It's pretty impressive how much Apple crammed into such small space while keeping the battery life.