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It's not the best phone in the world, there is no such thing.

It's an excellent phone that will fill some people's preferences better than others. It's most certainly Apples best phone to date.

If Cook did anything wrong, it was the proclamation awhile back "we've doubled down on secrecy" only to have that be so wrong.

That comment set up some expectations for the optimistic ones, only to fall flat when it came down to today. Without anything to surprise those who were hoping for something they hadn't heard about, made the day very anti climactic.

Conversely, there really isn't any significant changes or features that are left to include. At least within the somewhat confined thinking of Apple.

Apples Hype Machine is only capable of so much.
 
Your an idiot:

"This will allow it the impressive 13 hours of video playback, 21 hours of talk time, 10 hours of streaming video and 27 hours of streaming music over Verizon's LTE network. Here is the full specs rundown from Motorola"
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It's not the best phone in the world. There's phones out there on quad cores. I do believe it's the nicest phone out now. It's an iPhone so it's going to be stable, rarely crashes, rarely slows down, and whatnot.
 
and here is proof of the Maxx having better battery life than the 4s in all categories

Your an idiot:

The Razr Maxx is a good device but its raison d'être IS its larger battery so that's not really much of a surprise. And the phone feels very unwieldy, almost feels like a kite.

What's surprising about the new iPhone is that Apple decreased the size of the phone, got all the new components in without sacrificing much battery life.
 
It's not the best phone in the world. There's phones out there on quad cores. I do believe it's the nicest phone out now. It's an iPhone so it's going to be stable, rarely crashes, rarely slows down, and whatnot.

So an unstable phone with 8 cores that crashes a lot, requires battery pulls daily and slows down frequently would be a better phone? :rolleyes:
 
It may not be enough for many though (even if it was true which it is not). It also has less RAM, less memory capacity (SGSIII may go higher with flash card), smaller screen, lower screen resolution, lower camera resolution (compared to Sony, Nokia), no NFC or barometer (ok, not everyone needs this one :p)

That was my point. The entire basis of the OP's argument rest on battery life while on LTE.

By the way, I have a 80mpg vehicle that is street legal on all highways. It makes it the best vehicle in the world. Did I mention it was a motorcycle? Still want one? :p
 
3D, not 2D:

iPhone 4S: 4.5 x 2.31 x 0.37 = 3.85 inch ^3
iPhone 5: 4.87 x 2.31 x 0.3 = 3.37 inch^3

As a comparison, here's Samsung's jump in size from Galaxy S2 to S3:

Galaxy S2: 4.93 x 2.6 x 0.334 = 4.28 inch ^3
Galaxy S3: 5.38 x 2.78 x 0.34 = 5.09 inch ^3

It's pretty impressive how much Apple crammed into such small space while keeping the battery life.

It is not. They forgot to cramm NFC, wireless charging, half of the battery, memory card. Not really a big achievement. If Samsung dropped all those features, Galaxy phone would be much thinner than iPhone 5.
 
You can keep using the number of apps as a benchmark, I certainly do not, nor has Apple in the last year or so. Even Google stopped the number of apps as a metric.


Sure on their webpage. I'm sure Google has a metric for that too on their website. I don't believe 'the number of apps' was used as a metric for the iPhone 5 announcement.

Wait....which is it? Apple DOESN'T use it or Apple DOES use it. You can't have it both ways to support your assessment or opinion.

I don't believe 'the number of apps' was used as a metric for the iPhone 5 announcement.

Maybe not in the Keynote, I haven't listened to it, but it sure as hell is referenced on the iP5 page.

The highest quantity. Of the highest quality.
The App Store has the world’s largest collection of mobile apps.


Even being an iPhone user since '07, I get tired of how it is said over and over that the Apple app store has so many more apps. It's pointless to make that argument because a VAST MAJORITY of the apps are **** and even pointless. The fart apps are just an easy example. Would you like me to post more examples? In March Apple made a big deal about having 25 billion downloads and was hitting the advertising hard with how many apps there were available. Did you miss the whole "Yea, there is an app for that" stuff?

The point is, the vast majority of the quality, premium apps that actually do something unique or are useful exist on both platforms.
 
Im awaiting the full reviews and un boxing tutorials from the early adopters before I make my choice to buy or not.

When it hits the retail shops who have working demo models I can see then if it's for me.
 
- 8 HOURS BATTERY LIFE while BROWSING LTE all DAY. Name me an Android phone that can browse 8 hours on LTE. YOU CAN'T.

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- Maps 3D view is of higher resolution and cleaner than Google's.

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- iOS ecosystem is still more mature (with better premium apps) than Android ecosystem.

Get over yourself OP... What a silly, immature claim to make

And all before the phone's even been released to the public!!!

Honestly, some people
 
Wait....which is it? Apple DOESN'T use it or Apple DOES use it. You can't have it both ways to support your assessment or opinion.

It's BARELY DISCUSSED in the MEDIA how many apps are on each ecosystem in the past year. It's evident that the quality of the apps matter more than quantity when comparing iOS/Android.

There is no question that the quality of apps on iOS are more polished than on Android. Not to mention, it is easier to develop on iOS (especially for gaming) due to less fragmentation.

Google even acknowledges the problem of lack of tablet apps on Android during the Nexus 7 release.
 
It's BARELY DISCUSSED in the MEDIA how many apps are on each ecosystem in the past year. It's evident that the quality of the apps matter more than quantity when comparing iOS/Android.

There is no question that the quality of apps on iOS are more polished than on Android. Not to mention, it is easier to develop on iOS (especially for gaming) due to less fragmentation.

Google even acknowledges the problem of lack of tablet apps on Android during the Nexus 7 release.

All I am saying is that I can't get street legal, low profile tires that will fit on my Polaris RZR rims.
 
8 hours of LTE browsing in a factory controlled environment. It won't get that in the real world where signal strengths vary ;)

I'm willing to bet it will. My iPad gets the full 10 hours that Apple said it would. Has for the near two years I've used it. Doesn't seem to matter where or how I use it either.
 
Wait until the device gets out of Apple's reality distortion field.

Plus, 8 hours on LTE AND 8 hours on 3G is questionable.
 
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