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iPhone 5 Launch Props Up Apple's Share of Smartphone Market as Samsung Keeps Rolling
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You know what I mean: offering new models in screen sizes comparable to the HTC One X, GSIII, etc.
You didn't respond to the part talking about more choices lead to more marketshare. I take it, that you are admitting, that you were wrong then.
No biggie, though
The number of models Samsung sells compared to Apple is irrelevant. 99% of consumers own one phone. If they choose the iPhone, it's irrelevant how many models Samsung offer. If they choose a Samsung, it doesn't matter how many models they offer because at the end of the day, it still only counts as one.
I keep seeing people post about "cheap phones" in reference to Samsung, but I can't see where that is coming from. The popular phones by Samsung cost the same or considerably more than an iPhone. The iPhone 4s is free with a two years contract, and the iPhone 5 is typically $199 (us)... the same as most new Samsung smartphones. Some, such as the Galaxy Note II are considerably more expensive than iPhone. So how does "cheap" factor in when the iPhone is as cheap or cheaper in most instances.
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You didn't respond to the part talking about more choices lead to more marketshare. I take it, that you are admitting, that you were wrong then.
It's more like more price points lead to more market share. Not everyone can afford an iPhone or are willing to spend a lot for a phone.
You know what a mean: offering new models in screen sizes comparable to the HTC One X, GSIII, etc.
You didn't respond to the part talking about more choices lead to more marketshare. I take it, that you are admitting, that you were wrong then.
No biggie, though
Well I concede that it matters (to a degree). Although I would argue that for many - the operating system/ecosystem is the bigger deciding factor for a lot.
I think a lot of people go into a store wanting an iPhone. They don't come out with anything but an iPhone. I think some people go in not knowing what they want and will get what appeals to them. And of course, other people go in wanting Android - and then have a varied selection.
I honestly believe that iPhone is more ubiquitous (IE - when when people want an MP3 player - they, most often want an iPod simply because it's the "standard" of MP3 players.)
So when I make that comment about walking into the store - I do believe a lot of the time it's more about iPhone or not iPhone vs specs. Naturally - this is my .02.
Don't manipulate the facts. It is not cheaper in most instances.
Just checked Amazon (UK):
Samsung Galaxy SIII - 379.00 GBP
iPhone 4S - 450.00 GBP.
And I'm not even talking about iPhone 5.
It's called spin. Some here cannot fathom how another company may make good products. I seems their personal self worth is tied to their consumer electronics choice.
You realize that a lot of Android phones are the same or cost more? And that with earlier models of the iPhone - someone can spend $0 to get an iPhone - just like with a lot of Android phones.
That argument really holds less water now that there are many iterations of the iPhone and entry points.
Shipments don't mean Sales...big difference. Key words from the report...
With Samsung still declining to release official sales number, IDC estimated the company's smartphone shipments at 56.3 million during the quarter,
When companies refuse to report sales numbers but instead report 'shipments'...all that means is that they shipped a bunch of phones to retailers...doesn't mean the retailers SOLD them and the retailers can return unsold units.
Perfect example was the HP Touchpad that shipped 1+ million...in truth, they sold something like 30K before the firesale took place.
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Samsung makes tons of 'cheap' phones...just check out the pay as you go section.
Main stream users do care when they try to download an app but can't because their OS version is too old. I've had many friends with brand new Android phones that couldn't play Angry Birds or some other app. They cared and were upset that they couldn't upgrade their phones.
iOS might not have had all features from version 1, but the OS was never considered half-baked. It always run smoothly and ran well.
But if you want to talk about half-baked / half-assed features...
Android's copy and paste originally only worked in editable text fields.
Touch input only worked in parts of the OS and multi-touch didn't come until later.
Android 3.x was a complete dud, it only ever appeared on a handful of devices that no one used.
The entire user interface was scrapped and redone after the iPhone was introduced. Before becoming an iPhone knock-off, it was a Blackberry knock-off.
And... The first product that shipped with Android did so a year and a half after the iPhone.
But yeah, iOS is years behind because Android had a notification manager first. Whatever.
If you're going to brag about who had what first... Apple had a device on the market running their OS first, so Google pretty much had to catch up to Apple from the very beginning and it took them 18 months to do so with a half-assed attempt at best. Yeah, that T-Mobile G1 set the world on fire! It took another 18 months before Android based devices started selling in any real numbers. And it only took off because Microsoft and Nokia were lumbering dinosaurs that moved too damned slow to update their operating systems.
thats not a fair comparison
a better comparison would be a an android phone that is 2 years old that has been upgraded to ICS/JB (the latest software, samme as you are comparing)
Galaxy SIII I think came out with ICS, when the Galaxy SII got ICS, what features where missing from it
But I am curious, what has iOS6 on iPhone 4 got that android 2.x hasn't
We're talking about smartphones here. Where are the cheap ones? And are the cheapest cheaper than Free?
They were the only tests I could find and one of them was posted by an android site
In pretty much all the tests the iphone never cracked until they slammed it down multiple times
Bingo, I'm all Apple with phones and tablets, IOS is fine to me.
Obviously Apple "knows better" than me regarding screen size...... right?
I would dump my 5 in a heart beat for a larger screen. Clearly folks are speaking with their pocket books, and it seems like they are preferring Samsung even though the OS isn't even the current Android version.
On one hand Apple says that the iPhone must be able to operate with one hand to justify the tall skinny form, then they say the iPad Mini is the right size to operate with one hand.... sheeze. We'll see what the 6 looks like.
Sort of... Apple offers have TINY and MINI.
iPhone 5 has the same screen size/RAM size as Galaxy Mini.
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Yes I have a point, he posted that he doesn't care about anything on this site other than mac products, yet he was caring enough to post on an iphone thread.
Are you happy that I gave you my point now?
And that's why I wouldn't use an Android phone. It's so fragmented that developers have incentive to target the lowest common denominator.
Are you kidding me? Talk about manipulating the facts! First, I can't find a Galaxy S3 on amazon less than $550. Aside from that, are we now talking about apple's cut or how much the consumer pays? If I buy an iPhone5 on contract, I the same as I do for a Galaxy S3. If I buy off-contract, then it's all up in the air. And again, it goes up from there. A galaxy note II is almost $700 if I go that route.
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^^ this
I have a 4S and my contract is up in March 2013. I am debating whether or not to try an Android device. The only reason I'm even considering that is because iOS looks so very dated compared to the cool things that are happening on the Android side of things.
Nice try, but Angry birds was pretty much on every phone when it launched a few years ago. My 2x year old Droid X had it. Also his post was about how Android's Feature development is much more quicker than iOS. Good job sidestepping it with some crappy attempt to bash Android as a copy cat OS. Everyone borrows but more features came to Android before they came to iOS.
Keep drinking that Kool-Aid bro, hope it tastes good and enriches your life.
So much wrong in the below but I won't bother to school you on the truth. Clearly you have a strong bias.
I would love to know which BRAND NEW phone your MANY friends bought that could not play Angry Birds when it was released.
As for Apple and half-assed first attempts - I'd have to defer you to the many users across the globe who seem to think Apple Maps fit the bill.
I would love to know which BRAND NEW phone your MANY friends bought that could not play Angry Birds when it was released.
As for Apple and half-assed first attempts - I'd have to defer you to the many users across the globe who seem to think Apple Maps fit the bill.