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Oh. So you're saying that you bought an Samsung - but you really wanted an iPhone but couldn't afford it. So you settled for a crappy phone just over screen size.

/sarcasm - but that's how too many on this forum think.

Psst. His Galaxy Note II costs 50% more than the iPhone5.

Edit: sorry... missed the sarcasm part of your post. I thought you were serious.
 
This is exactly my point. All the iphone fans love to point out that windows phone 7 will only be upgraded to 7.8 but it's the same as Apple upgrading all the the phones to ios6 but not all phones will get the features.

True not all devices will get the same "OS features", but that's usually due to hardware requirements. What you're saying above is not the same thing at all. Because apps created for anything newer than 7.8, may not work with that old device because of the OS. Any app written for iOS 6 will work on any device that can be upgraded to iOS 6 unless that app requires hardware that is not present on an older device. Upgrading the OS NEVER guarantees all devices will get all features, what it does guarantee is that all those devices will be at the same API level...

Developer point of view:
If I'm a small developer, I may not have the time or resources to support multiple API sets. And if Apple can move their user base quickly to the newest OS, then I can concentrate on the latest API. Furthermore, I might have more time to make sure my app is more pleasing to my customer providing them with a better experience while using it. Which translates into them placing a value in my app and would be more willing to pay for it.

User point of view:
If I'm able to upgrade my device to the latest version of the OS, then I won't have to worry about which apps will or will not work with my device, other than those that require hardware my device does not have.
 
Well, Samsung made almost as much as Apple in profits in Q3 but I agree with your point. Still, the number of sold phones is important because market share affects app developers priorities and in the long run influences the vitality of the ecosystem (PC vs Mac obviously is a great example).

Not completely true, since I would argue that more developers are writing for IOS than android. (when not doing both)
 
The haters are out in force today. Can if really be that healthy to be so far up Apple's butt? It is fine to like the Tech and all but good lord why look like a rabid buffoon.

Some impressive numbers there for both parties. Growth is dandy, if only the other players could pick up their game. More competition is always good and it is going to look bleak if in the future your smart phone choice is either an Android Samsung or an Apple product... At least we will not see a Duopoly like Verizon and ATT since Samsung and Apple will probably have little collaboration in the future outside of a supply agreement.
 
You don't care yet you posted on a thread clearly concerning phones. Does Apple make a "MACphone we aren't aware of?

I like to read the comments, if I find something interesting or dumb enough in it I'll comment. Carry on.
 
Wrong. I just went to Dropbox on iOS, selected document and opened it, hit the share button at lower left, and selected email and sent link to document.

Gary

Go back and re-read his post. He specifically does not want to email a link to the document, he wants to send the document itself.

Trivially easy on Android.
 
Samsung vs. Apple aside, the Galaxy S3 is exactly what the Android operating system has needed. A killer device that is the unquestioned choice amongst Android users. If they had a phone like the Galaxy back when I switched to an iPhone I may have stuck with it.....but I'm too invested in the Apple ecosystem now, and the iPhone 5 is a fantastic phone as well.
 
Hahaha...

Are you kidding me?

Seriously... ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Screens, hard drives, portable drives, CD drives, Blu ray drives, audio systems, DSLRs, video cameras, MP3 players, 3D glasses, projectors, microphones, tablets, vacuum cleaners, washing machines, food processors, coffee machines, microwaves, ovens, cooker hobs, cooker hoods... I'm only touching the tip of the Iceberg here!

Samsung does a million times more than Apple! How can someone be so delusional?

He forgot to write that Samsung also deals with iPhone, iPad, iPod, and Macbook parts.
 
Go back and re-read his post. He specifically does not want to email a link to the document, he wants to send the document itself.

Trivially easy on Android.

I love Andmade share on Android. Not only can you share pretty much anything from any app - but you can share it simultaneously with any/all apps
 
True not all devices will get the same "OS features", but that's usually due to hardware requirements.

But that's demonstrably not true though, is it.

No Siri for iPhone 4 - but it was proven to work with a jailbreak.
No turn-by-turn navigation for iPhone 4 - but 3rd part apps can do it fine.
No Camera Panorama on iPhone 4 etc.

Most of the headline missing features are nothing to do with hardware, they're to do with product differentiation.

Which is fine, in itself - I don't begrudge Apple's desire to make you want a new phone. But let's not bull***t about the reasons.
 
Developer point of view:
If I'm a small developer, I may not have the time or resources to support multiple API sets. And if Apple can move their user base quickly to the newest OS, then I can concentrate on the latest API. Furthermore, I might have more time to make sure my app is more pleasing to my customer providing them with a better experience while using it. Which translates into them placing a value in my app and would be more willing to pay for it.

Makes me wonder if you're actually a developer.

Whilst I can't speak for iOS development, the way on Android is that you develop for the lowest API version that supports all the features your app needs, which gives you the broadest level of compatibility. There's no need to target Jelly Bean if you don't use any Jelly Bean features. You can target say Gingerbread and have your app run on anything.
 
Sucker logic.

Samsung and other OEMs keep recreating new hardware because their users can't get the latest release of the OS. They'd rather force them into buying brand new hardware. Android is being released at such a pace the OEMs and carriers can't keep up, so they ditch their current customers and just move on to new devices. And maybe, eventually put out an update... MAYBE.

I know a ton of people still using the 3GS as their phone. Why? Because over the passed 3.5 years, Apple has offered 3 OS upgrades; 3.0 - > 4.0 -> 5.0-> 6.0. Most people don't care about new hardware, they just want their phone to continue working.
Mainstream Android user does not care about "the latest release of the OS". They don't even know the difference. Only geeks care.

Also, Android OS is initially more mature and 2-3 years ahead of iOS so Android upgrades are not as importnat as iOS upgrades.

For instance Android had such important features - Copy/Paste, multitasking, resolution independent UI, notifications, voice command, folders - since version 1.0.
iOS is on the other hand always half-baked. Apple made big deal of these OS features releasing some of them as late as iOS6.

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Well, Samsung made almost as much as Apple in profits in Q3 but I agree with your point. Still, the number of sold phones is important because market share affects app developers priorities and in the long run influences the vitality of the ecosystem (PC vs Mac obviously is a great example).

Market share in regards to how its presented here is not important to developers or even ecosystem vitality. These are hardware numbers, not platform numbers. Using Apple's 15% as a gauge to determine how well the iOS platform and ecosystem is doing is completely misleading.
 
I'd love to see UK sales figures, but we only ever seem to see either US or worldwide here at MacRumors.

I say this because (in a totally unscientific just "looking around" sort of way, I'm convinced there are WAY more iPhones than Samsungs over here.

And when you think about it, it is impossible to use a Samsung phone without anyone noticing it!

Maybe they buy these phones, and only use them in a dark room.
 
Oh. So you're saying that you bought an Samsung - but you really wanted an iPhone but couldn't afford it. So you settled for a crappy phone just over screen size.

/sarcasm - but that's how too many on this forum think.

Ha Ha, But still you are agreeing then, that more choices lead to more marketshare ? :D

While I personally think iOS is the more stable operating system (my Galaxy Note on ICS has been only so and so, in terms of stability and smoothness, and my IPad is running circles around it in that regard), my preference is having a phone with a larger screen. Heck, we all have different preferences and priorities and I am not sure, if Apple's one phone approach is the best long term.

Well, with the iPad, they caved in already and offering a smaller sized model now with the mini. Who knows, different sized phone models might follow, because I can't imagine Apple sitting still for too long and watching the competition selling millions of units. The problem is, if Apple waits for too long in a market segment, then they won't perceived as the leaders anymore, if they finally decide to change their one model fits it all strategy.
 
Since they still sell the 4S - they have two sized phones now, don't they. That day has "come"

Ha Ha, But still you are agreeing then, that more choices lead to more marketshare ? :D

While I personally think iOS is the more stable operating system (my Galaxy Note on ICS has been only so and so, in terms of stability and smoothness, and my IPad is running circles around it in that regard), my preference is having a phone with a larger screen. Heck, we all have different preferences and priorities and I am not sure, if Apple's one phone approach is the best long term.

Well, with the iPad, they caved in already and offering a different sized model now with the mini. Who knows, different sized phone models might follow, because I can't imagine Apple sitting still for too long and watching the competition selling millions of units. The problem is, if Apple waits for too long in a market segment, then they won't perceived as the leaders anymore, if they finally decide to change their one model fits it all strategy.
 
Not sure how you got that from the post you quoted, but go on, I'll bite.

Apple is far less concerned about SALES than it is about PROFIT.

Keeping the number of models low might decrease sales/market share, but they are still absolutely WHOMPING Samsung when it comes to overall profit.

Between unit sales and profit is revenue. If company A sells 5 phones for $100 each, and company B sells 1 phone for $500, the revenue is the same. According to Apple's numbers yesterday, their revenue growth in the smartphone market was 58%, while the overall market revenue grew by 30something% only.

Apple keeps all the fandroids happy by selling only expensive phones, while millions and millions buy the cheapest possible Android phone to make phone calls, never using them as a smartphone. It is quite obvious when you look at the overall phone unit sales that Apple has enormous growth. There is a switch from people buying $100 smart phones instead of $100 feature phones, which gives the fandroids something to cheer, but doesn't affect Apple at all.
 
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