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iPhone 5 to Also Use A5 Dual Core Processor
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But, we've always been at war with eastasia!!!!
Those dang eurasions!!!! We must conquer them!
It's all the people who have the iPhone 4 and aren't going to upgrade to the 5 this summer. They say that stuff to downplay the iP5 so that they feel better about having a year old technology. Is A5 insanely awesome? No but it'll be nice to have. I mean who doesn't want a faster phone? I see people do this all the time, like 3GS users that didn't upgrade.
The 5 could have the coolest features ever but the non upgraders will go to the ends of the earth saying how it's not that great and they're glad they skipped out on it so they can get the 6 which is gonna be awesome!!!!
Hey now, I have an iphone 4 and I'm not going to upgrade this summer. I still think it would be nice to have a faster phone.
(I'm so addicted to my 4 but I totally wouldn't mind a little more speed - shoot, even if I wasn't noticing a little lag speed is always liked -, maybe a little more ram - once again, more ram is never bad, and more storage space. Other than that, anything extra is gravy. I'm going to be curious what will be introduced in the span of two years between this year's iphone and the one that comes out when my contract runs out that will make me drool over the new phone. I hope something but honestly, I'm pretty happy with my 4 and except for those things mentioned, all stuff you expect to get better as things progress).
My guess is Apple is putting in a dual core because thats what is going in everything else, and its easier to deal with one chip.
It also allows them to say "here is the new blah blah blah" and people will think "oh I must have the new blah blah blah"
I wouldn't be surprised in true Apple style if we saw a tiered system with only the most expensive phone having the dual core to persuade consumers who wanted the dual core to purchase the the most expensive iPhone.
Benchmarks or comparisons will be released showing the dual core is faster by some small percentage and it will be a must have for many geeks with deep pockets.
Everyday use will show no difference.
It also allows them to say "here is the new blah blah blah" and people will think "oh I must have the new blah blah blah"
I wouldn't be surprised in true Apple style if we saw a tiered system with only the most expensive phone having the dual core to persuade consumers who wanted the dual core to purchase the the most expensive iPhone.
Benchmarks or comparisons will be released showing the dual core is faster by some small percentage and it will be a must have for many geeks with deep pockets.
Everyday use will show no difference.
If Consumer Reports are the only ones that still have an issue with the antenna, why would the iPhone 5 need an improved one?
Whenever I see an iPhone 4 doing graphics stuff, it looks slower than my 3GS... It seems to drop more frames when scrolling and doing day-to-day OS animations. I guess because it needs to chuck around 4 times the number of pixels.
I'll be pleased with an A5 in the iPhone 5... Thanks to the 9x graphics performance it should be an amazing bit of kit.
I agree about wanting more battery life, but the A5 might give us that. The essentially single-threaded SunSpider JavaScript benchmarks for the iPad 2 seem to indicate that, even when both iPad 1 and iPad 2 have iOS 4.3 installed, the iPad 2 is getting over 50% performance boost over the iPad 1. There is likely to be some benefit from having two cores (system processes running on the other core to the benchmark and maybe a bit of multithreading in Safari leaving the JavaScript engine with a core all to itself) but the basic benchmarks will be running on a single core so this seems a pretty good demonstration of the architectural superiority of a Cortex-A9 core vs a Cortex-A8 core at the same clock speed.
What all this suggests to me is that Apple could downclock an A5 in an iPhone even more than they have downclocked the A4 in the iPhone 4 and still match or even exceed the performance of the current iPhone 4. Downclocking an A5 to 650MHz would probably still be faster than an A4 at 800MHz and should give better battery life. Computationally intensive apps (like games) written to be fully multithreaded would still get huge speedups by also more fully exploiting the second core.
Unfortunately people obsessed with specs would still complain that 650 is less than 800 and demonstartaions that it is still faster wouldn't shut them up, but irrational arguments like that are best ignored for the greater good of the product.
- Julian
Julian, good point on battery life. I too would like to see an increase there without compromise - I'm sure it will come as tech has moved forward as ever.
I'm just excited about getting an iPhone 5 when it comes out! Bring it on, I'll be happy with anything compared to my Nokia N82. Still, pretty good battery life on that, even if it does need to be hand-wound it's so old..
I'm just excited about getting an iPhone 5 when it comes out! Bring it on, I'll be happy with anything compared to my Nokia N82. Still, pretty good battery life on that, even if it does need to be hand-wound it's so old..
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I should make it clear before anyone starts getting defensive. I'm an iPhone 4 owner and I'm already very impressed with the battery life on my phone. I think that Apple have done an exceptional job in getting really good battery life on the existing model. I'm just greedy when it comes to battery life and it's one feature where I'll always want more. It would be so nice to be able to go away for a week long business trip and not need to worrry about packing a charger. I'm not in any way claiming that is achievable for the iPhone 5, or probably even 6 or 7, but it's something I hope will be achievable one day. Right now I can do that on a 2 day trip and that's a good start.Julian, good point on battery life. I too would like to see an increase there without compromise - I'm sure it will come as tech has moved forward as ever.
I'm just excited about getting an iPhone 5 when it comes out! Bring it on, I'll be happy with anything compared to my Nokia N82. Still, pretty good battery life on that, even if it does need to be hand-wound it's so old..
- Julian
April 2011
but anyways, we all know its obvious that iphone 5 and itouch 5 will now have the A5,
but when I tell people that who aren't familiar with apple always ask: how do you know for sure, apple could always do something different. which is a dumb thing to ask but I always find it difficult to explain to people how I know for sure that iphone 5 will have A5.
anyone have a good explanation I can use?
Because your Mom said so!
more then likely we will see 4G/lte on iphone 5, but multiple SIM cards will probably never happen.
why? my current phones have multiple SIM slots ... I've even seen phone with 4 SIM/uSIM slots
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BREAKING NEWS: Apple will announce iOS 5 in April and release a new iPhone with A5 dual-core processors in June 2011, a white version will be released on day one too. It will also have models that support UMTS/GSM or CDMA EVDO. This phone is unlikely to receive a further boost in screen resolution. However, a new iPod touch and Apple TV that utilizes the new A5 chip may not come before September 2011.
Lol. What! Seriously!? Awesome
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Is there ever such a thing as too fast? With dual a5 processor chips how fast would the performance be? I thought that one a5 chip was 512 mb of ram, so would this exceed 1,000 mb? If so, I would definitely want to port android to it!
Is there ever such a thing as too fast? With dual a5 processor chips how fast would the performance be? I thought that one a5 chip was 512 mb of ram, so would this exceed 1,000 mb? If so, I would definitely want to port android to it!
I'm not sure we really need your opinion.
iPhone needs the A5 because it's not going to stay the same, so it might as well get better. Apple pushes the OS to perform right on the edge of the hardware's ability, so the slightest bit of congestion on the iPhone 4 will cause it t slow to a crawl like an iPhone 3G running 2.0. That has little to do with A5 and more to do with RAM/memory management however.
Battery life is already excellent, and A5 promises not to compromise that.
And there must be something wrong with your phone, because mine has never dropped a call, nor worn a case.
When viewed in isolation, maybe not, but speed comes at the expense of other things, one of those things battery life.
I would be upset if Apple shipped the iPhone 5 with the same A5 as in the iPad 2 except that they clocked it up to 1.5GHz. That would probably give half of the battery life of the iPhone 4 (and a phone that was almost too hot too hold, if it was possible to get that speed at all). I suppose I couldn't say it was too fast per-se, but I could say that for my requirements Apple had chosen the wrong tradeoff between performance and battery life.
This is the tightrope that Apple walks with almost all the specs on their devices, how to judge all these tradeoffs in such a way as to appeal to the maximum number of users.
- Julian
I was going to buy an iPod touch to complement my HTC Desire but I figure ill wait for this A5 to be released then buy it day of
Dual wield FTW!
Don't forget better battery life. If the iphone 5 wants to compete with the latest Android phones then they definately need the dual core processor. The Atrix 4G is an amazing phone it kicks iphone4 ass all day long.
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i went from a 3GS to a HTC Inspire 4G. my new phone has a 8MP camera, but i swear the camera was better on my 3GS. with the iOS 4 update it focused and took pictures a lot faster. a good picture on my phone will beat the iphone, but if you're trying to take pictures of kids while they are moving it was easier with the iphone.
but i like the huge screen and the $20 price