Awesome. AT&T has HSPA+ here in Cincinnati and as long as they let me keep my unlimited data plan, I'm golden.
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'iPhone 5' to Support 21 Mbps HSPA+ '4G' Technology
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Didnt the 3GS have HSPA+?
Didnt the 3GS have HSPA+?
Oh, I see. 3gs has HSPA, this is hspa+. Wasnt aware
Didnt the 3GS have HSPA+?
Oh, I see. 3gs has HSPA, this is hspa+. Wasnt aware
I really wanted a redesign ... but if it looks the same as the iPhone 4 and gives me 21mbps and the Assistant feature, I'll be very happy.
For most things are streaming, so if buffer time is smaller does not mean you will listen or watch so much more. Just means you wait less.
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I agree, but when you're grandfathered in to AT&T's truly unlimited plan like I am, this is great news!
I'm wondering if Verizon is going to be behind again. Without LTE this is a bit lame for Verizon customers
Every other major mobile phone producer has one, why not Apple?
Because it's domestic users can't access it.
However, Apple is becoming more global at the iP3/4/5's price point, is going to lose more market share the LTE capable phones from Samsung, especially in prepay markets.
So you burn through your cap faster, and that makes the speed in which you received your content meaningless?
You'll go thru 2GB in no time. The carriers will love these phones, many users will be paying double for data.
In the US the good carriers have caps, and watch how fast Sprint imposes one after they get the iPhone.
I hope that is sarcasm. They are hardly pushing any envelope.
I was unaware that AT&T had separate 3G and 4G data plans.
Same here. I consistently get around 8 mb/s in most of the areas I frequent, almost as fast as my home internet!
Half the people think that already. Especially since Apple screwed this thing up already by calling their SECOND phone the 3G. Which some people also think means third Generation like the iPods. So when the iPhone 4 comes out, people mistakenly call it the 4G either because they attribute the 4 to being a 4G capable phone, because obviously the previous model was a 3G capable up from a 2G capable (people now call the iPhone (1) the iPhone 2G when it's not) or because they are correctly referring to it as the fourth generation iPhone. I think Apple has no problem with people accidentally referring to it as the 4G or thinking it has 4G. It all works for them so innocently. Apple will have to add a plus or s to the 4 or 5. And yes, I'm sure they don't want ATT calling it 4G until it's LTE. But Apple might just be saying - the hell with it! We have to move forward where we can and if Verizon doesn't have some intermediary step, then they miss out. Perhaps the "plus" moniker that has been rumored will be attributed to HSPA"+" hmmm.
You're right - I should just assume data size will not increase in the future, especially as speed increases. That's a silly assumption.
So just to get this straight, you're saying if your video downloads faster, you're going to wait after watching until the time when the download would have finished over 3g before watching something else?
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Ouch. We'll see. If they pull that stunt that's when I'll lower my data plan and maybe pick up tethering. I don't use all 2gig now, but I come close. When my wifi broke on my old 3GS, I was pulling 4 gigs a month easy. I like to watch Netflix streaming in bed and I do a lot of video work so I often am viewing rough cuts through dropbox. Without the wifi, I sucked up lots of data.
You are correct. 4G matters for video streaming, and with a cap...
The networks are a long ways away from being able to handle unlimited bandwidth at high speeds.
so why does Apple allow me to turn off my 3G signal if it goes against their "core philosophy"?
I'd wish Apple would use its market power at tell providers that they have to offer an unlimited data plan if they want to sell the iPhone. Apple can be progressive at times, so why not stating that with capped data plans, the experience would suffer and therefore it can only be offered with unlimited plans? Besides: Caps are only there to make more money. They don't have to buy one dollar worth more equipment to provide unlimited data. And the providers said it themselves, it only affects some heavy users. It is bogus to say that this would affect all others because they leach the bandwidth... because they still let them and charge extra.
I always felt the same way, there must have been some real back room fighting going on during the iPad's original launch.
Remember how fast the unlimited option was taken away, like a month?
Something tells me Apple begged for them to have a month window so they could say at their presentation unlimited data was available.
Apple should force some sort of unlimited plan.
I would even be ok with a capped/unlimited plan or even throttling.
I just don't want to worry, but I also don't want the scumbags that use 10gigs a month to get away with it also.
Exactly why I won't be getting an iPhone. I get a large discount from my employer and I have grandfathered unlimited data and hotspot with Verizon and at this point there is no way I would lock into a non LTE phone on Verizon. Especally when they are still allowing you to grandfather your unlimited data and hotspot data to LTE.
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Many of us have jobs and actually use our phone for data transmission and not media consumption! Often we're just waiting for an image or a file to download so we can see it and comment. There is no other file to see if that one downloads quicker.