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Moved the camera waaaayyyy too fast to make a meaningful comparison. Slow down and hold the phones steady!

I can't see much difference EXCEPT in the running water scene. Huge difference in quality there. The 4s is pixelated and looks much worse than the 5.
 
My iPhone 5 has a stuck green pixel in the camera. Do you think that this is grounds for replacement, because I've always found stuck pixels in video to be one of my biggest tech pet peaves.
 
iPhone 5 is just plain underwhelming. I'm coming from an iPhone 4 with a broken home button, and I've pretty much decided I'm returning the 5 and repairing the 4's home button.

Sucks. :(

Positives for the 5:

Much sturdier and less susceptible to breaking panels.

Much better speaker (not too important for me, but it's a big improvement over the 4).

Some speed improvements.


Negatives:

iOS 6 Maps

Incompatible dock connector with no adapter supplied.

Black model VERY prone to scratching.

Performance improvements aren't great enough to really notice unless you're looking side-by-side.
 
The initial comparison shots make me nauseous. With that said, there is an obvious improvement.
 
Not a big difference. Good thing I have a 2 year contract with the 4s, that means I'll get the 5s with a better camera and other improved features.
 
Was Michael J. Fox doing this demo? Geez...

As your joke may have been funny, what's even funnier is your ignorance to understand why it was filmed with shakes in it. It's to test the stabilization of the camera.

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Negatives:

iOS 6 Maps

Wait for the update?

Incompatible dock connector with no adapter supplied.

Buy the adapter for $30 instead of spending $75 on the home button?


Black model VERY prone to scratching.

Buy a case?

Performance improvements aren't great enough to really notice unless you're looking side-by-side.

So the A5 is just as good as the A6?

So you either pre ordered one, or stood on line for one, used it for not even a day (or a day depending on where you live) and already you've made the decision that the 5 isn't worth it?
 
Not a big difference. Good thing I have a 2 year contract with the 4s, that means I'll get the 5s with a better camera and other improved features.

I'll see ya there wonderful resale ftw. Get 600-650 for this 5 and upgrade to the 5s for almost nothing.

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As your joke may have been funny, what's even funnier is your ignorance to understand why it was filmed with shakes in it. It's to test the stabilization of the camera.

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Wait for the update?



Buy the adapter for $30 instead of spending $75 on the home button?




Buy a case?



So the A5 is just as good as the A6?

So you either pre ordered one, or stood on line for one, used it for not even a day (or a day depending on where you live) and already you've made the decision that the 5 isn't worth it?

This 5 smokes my 4s. Also for some reason I'm getting much better data rates on hspa+ (no lte yet) used to get 5~ down now I'm 7~ down. That part stumps me
 
I wonder what kind of a screen most are viewing this on. On my RMBP, the difference is very noticeable on the rear camera. The colors and sharpness are better on the iphone 5. Yes it's not revolutionary, but its still a good step forward. Nice to see the quality continue to improve.
 
Nowadays, when it comes to video, what matters the most are smooth, stable frame rate and stabilisation.

The quality is there, even iPhone 4 has a great quality but shakiness can ruin videos.

Stabilization is VERY important, this is pretty much what P&S cameras and camcorders have over phone cameras, other than the zoom of course.

Now that Nokia has fired shots towards Optical Image Stabilization on a mainstream phone. I hope others take note and respond with something of their own.

I like that manufacturers are starting to focus on "surrounding" areas of cameras - stabilization, LEDs, night perfoance, instead of just upping the megapixels.
 
How can people not see the very clear difference between these two? @_@

watch it full screen, the 5 is a big improvement.
 
iPhone 5 hands down! This phone is so much faster and fluid than 4S. Wow!!! The low light performance is amazing. I just tested it against friends 4S. The whole place look lit up the whole room while his looked very dark!
 
The difference to the trained eye is tremendous! iPhone 5 is all over the 4S, which was a great smartphone camera in itself! I'm really, REALLY impressed!

Outdoors, there is higher contrast, much sharper detail, better color, good stability with panning. Indoors, macro is terrific, there less blur when moving the camera in the iPhone 5, better white balance.

Can't wait to get mine!

OK, on the topic of a trained eye...

I work in motion picture and television post-production. My immediate reaction to these clips, particularly the bright outdoor ones, is that lower contrast can be preferable, because you have a lot more flexibility to retain shadow detail in bright light.

However, the lower contrast in the iPhone 4S clip might be a result of lens flare. Smudges or marks on the lens can scatter light in such a way as to lower contrast. If the phone's been in use for a year, it's very hard to say whether that's a factor. If it were a pristine, out-of-the-box iPhone 4S, it might be more contrasty.

As for people's gut feelings, it's common for people to look at two side-by-side images and prefer the higher contrast image. However, capturing a lower-contrast image can give you more to work with after the fact.

Anyway, it's very hard to say. High contrast can be a result of more accurate optics, or it can be a result of clean vs. dirty optics. I'd have to know more about these phones, where they came from, and what their history was, to understand what were going on.
 
All things considered (hype, previous model improvements, apple's claims) the difference is negligible. But damn that sapphire lens makes a huuuuuge difference:)
 
Nice Video

IMHO still NO reason to go and buy this one or upgrade, all of the local stores around here still have inventory of the iPhone 5 at both AT&T and Verizon , Target. Granted they'll more than likely be gone by today or tomorrow.

Its a PHONE first and game console second is what we heard at the Apple Store from customers
 
You probably could on the iPhone 6th gen, since it has full sRGB color.

Why do you keep calling it "iPhone 6th gen" in every single posting?
You really like complex names or can't you just not get over the official name iPhone 5?
Or do you simply want to show what a well informed nerd you are?
 
OK, on the topic of a trained eye...

I work in motion picture and television post-production. My immediate reaction to these clips, particularly the bright outdoor ones, is that lower contrast can be preferable, because you have a lot more flexibility to retain shadow detail in bright light.
Wouldn't high contrast generally mean more/better data collected? And therefore more flexibility? I thought you could alter down, but not up. (in contrast or saturation)
 
Basically just minor differences. I only noticed a few scenes where these were apparent like where the water was running over the rocks. Nothing that really warrants an immediate upgrade to the iPhone 5 from a 4S
 
Whoever says this is a huge improvement has fallen into the fallacy of the placebo effect. There is no tangible different between cameras besides the waterfall clip.
 
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