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iPhone 5c Launch Day Supplies Generally Holding Up Well as Pre-Orders Begin
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I guess it's too early to say. I think Phones4u is the UK's number two mobile phone retailer behind Carphone Warehouse but the 4 big networks also have a huge high street presence so it's hard to gauge how much of the market they command.
We probably need to hear from a few of their competitors to find out if they are seeing similar demand before taking their claims too seriously.
If I had any say in the colors (colours/uk) they should have done,
chrome, black, white, purple and TRANSPARENT, hell why not!!!!!!! Apple missed a trick here!
I think the white is going to be popular but god damn those are some ugly ass colours! Ironically i think the would have sold more if the had gone with black and white, especially as there is no black iphone 5s.
Once again god damn those are some ugly ass colours!
chrome, black, white, purple and TRANSPARENT, hell why not!!!!!!! Apple missed a trick here!
I think the white is going to be popular but god damn those are some ugly ass colours! Ironically i think the would have sold more if the had gone with black and white, especially as there is no black iphone 5s.
Once again god damn those are some ugly ass colours!
With Apple not offering iPhone 5S preorders this year I think it's safe to assume that retailers will see higher demand compared to previous years. So I don't think it'll be an accurate way to measure demand.
Well of course it's no surprise. It doesn't involve the glass/aluminium which would take longer, and it's one of TWO new iPhones released meaning people have a choice. So demand for the 5s could potentially be less too, but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. And neither does the stock status, because you do not know how many were in stock to begin with.it's not sold out yetno surprise, if you could pre-order the 5S, it would have been sold out after the first 2 hours.
You may not like it, but many people do. I've gone for the 5c and I have a friend who has too. And that's along with many people on this forum. You have an opinion but you don't speak for everyone.
I really don't know what you're trying to say lol. I wanted a 5c, and I was awake. This was an international launch, not just in the US.
Whether its in stock or not means nothing when you don't know how many they had to begin with.
I don't know any 'kids' who would be given a new ~£500 phone. In fact, I don't know any 'kids' with a phone..
I'd assume the 5c would have more. As said already in this thread, it uses some components which were already in production, and the plastic shell is quicker to produce than glass and aluminium.
Yep, no one at all..
.That's a matter of opinion.
Or it means they had a lot of stock to begin with?
Plus you're forgetting that there has been TWO new iPhones released but only ONE opened for pre orders this morning.
+1. Some people just don't seem to understand this.
Underwhelming based on what?
+1.
How do you know this?
+1. This is what I've been trying to say all day lol. Some people just think that because they don't like the 5c, no one will!
+1.
Possibly. Although tbh I would have thought they'd have produced less yellow - but I'm only saying that because I don't like it. But I doubt they produced an equal amount of each colour.
Depends on how much of each colour they had, it probably wasn't the same number for each. I personally would say white - blue - green - yellow - pink
.What exactly makes that 'obvious'?
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Maybe because not everyone likes the 5s as much as you do?
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I agree white will probably be the most popular, and maybe blue too. I also agree that they should have made a black one. Transparent would be interesting!
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Maybe they had less yellow.
well of course it's no surprise. It doesn't involve the glass/aluminium which would take longer, and it's one of two new iphones released meaning people have a choice. So demand for the 5s could potentially be less too, but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. And neither does the stock status, because you do not know how many were in stock to begin with.
You may not like it, but many people do. I've gone for the 5c and i have a friend who has too. And that's along with many people on this forum. You have an opinion but you don't speak for everyone.
I really don't know what you're trying to say lol. I wanted a 5c, and i was awake. This was an international launch, not just in the us.
Whether its in stock or not means nothing when you don't know how many they had to begin with.
I don't know any 'kids' who would be given a new ~£500 phone. In fact, i don't know any 'kids' with a phone..
I'd assume the 5c would have more. As said already in this thread, it uses some components which were already in production, and the plastic shell is quicker to produce than glass and aluminium.
Yep, no one at all..
That's a matter of opinion.
Or it means they had a lot of stock to begin with?
Plus you're forgetting that there has been two new iphones released but only one opened for pre orders this morning.
+1. Some people just don't seem to understand this.
Underwhelming based on what?
+1.
How do you know this?
+1. This is what i've been trying to say all day lol. Some people just think that because they don't like the 5c, no one will!
+1.
Possibly. Although tbh i would have thought they'd have produced less yellow - but i'm only saying that because i don't like it. But i doubt they produced an equal amount of each colour.
Depends on how much of each colour they had, it probably wasn't the same number for each. I personally would say white - blue - green - yellow - pink
What exactly makes that 'obvious'?
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maybe because not everyone likes the 5s as much as you do?
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i agree white will probably be the most popular, and maybe blue too. I also agree that they should have made a black one. Transparent would be interesting!
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maybe they had less yellow.
nothing better to do??
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There might be a more practical element to this as well.
They may be hoping that folks interested in the 5c will either order online or hold off a bit. That way the staff has less to deal with on launch day when they will possibly have folks wanting to set up the whole touch thing etc.
Thus why the 5c got pre-orders but not the 5s (which will be the line producer for the free media)
Is the phone's target demographic up yet? Still no sell out. Perhaps we have to wait until school gets out?
Maybe people are tired of the same phone? Will it do well, yes but I don't think we will see the masses moving towards it.
I will say the same for the 5S. The phone needs a change in some way, hopefully the 6 will do that by being bigger.
it's useful to point out that when iphone 5 came out, all that scuff issue led to a big constraints in materials to build the phone and not necessarily the components inside. The rumors were that foxconn had to take that hit in inventory. I imagine there's just a crapload of iphone 5 internals for last year sitting in a warehouse somewhere. i would be surprised if iphone 5s didn't sell out quick
Nothing to do with staff and all that b.s....
It about margins. They know people are going to go for latest and greatest (5s) and it does not need publicity. It will definitely going to sell well.
Now onwards Apple is starting thins new trick. They are going to market more this low cost to manufacture but big margin phones. Did not say low cost to consumer.
So instead of targeting the low income segment, they are targeting the "low cost to manufacture phones" and marketing them more.
If this strategy fails or does not give same $$$$$$ as projected, they will drop the price of this phone and go for masses.
Will see...
I disagree. There was very little R&D involved. It was virtually all on building the case, which they can re-use for a long time. I'm a bit surprised at the news articles commenting on how long it is taking for the 5C to sell out. That's probably exactly what Apple intended. The 5C is last year's phone in a new case, slightly modified so that they can sell them in more markets overseas. The 5s is the new "halo" phone. I'm guessing that will sell out more quickly.
Complaining about the "slow" pre-sales of the 5C is a bit like complaining about 4S sales during last weekend's launch of the 5. Not quite, since it's getting its own marketing push, but there's really no reason for a shortage of 5Cs.
Well of course it's no surprise. It doesn't involve the glass/aluminium which would take longer, and it's one of TWO new iPhones released meaning people have a choice. So demand for the 5s could potentially be less too, but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. And neither does the stock status, because you do not know how many were in stock to begin with.
You may not like it, but many people do. I've gone for the 5c and I have a friend who has too. And that's along with many people on this forum. You have an opinion but you don't speak for everyone.
I really don't know what you're trying to say lol. I wanted a 5c, and I was awake. This was an international launch, not just in the US.
Whether its in stock or not means nothing when you don't know how many they had to begin with.
I don't know any 'kids' who would be given a new ~£500 phone. In fact, I don't know any 'kids' with a phone..
I'd assume the 5c would have more. As said already in this thread, it uses some components which were already in production, and the plastic shell is quicker to produce than glass and aluminium.
Yep, no one at all..
That's a matter of opinion.
Or it means they had a lot of stock to begin with?
Plus you're forgetting that there has been TWO new iPhones released but only ONE opened for pre orders this morning.
+1. Some people just don't seem to understand this.
Underwhelming based on what?
+1.
How do you know this?
+1. This is what I've been trying to say all day lol. Some people just think that because they don't like the 5c, no one will!
+1.
Possibly. Although tbh I would have thought they'd have produced less yellow - but I'm only saying that because I don't like it. But I doubt they produced an equal amount of each colour.
Depends on how much of each colour they had, it probably wasn't the same number for each. I personally would say white - blue - green - yellow - pink
What exactly makes that 'obvious'?
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Maybe because not everyone likes the 5s as much as you do?
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I agree white will probably be the most popular, and maybe blue too. I also agree that they should have made a black one. Transparent would be interesting!
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Maybe they had less yellow.
You are epic. Thank you.
I'm sure supply is no problem for the 5C. Remember, last year the main reason for the shortage was the difficulty in making the new case. The internals aren't that different from the 5 and plastic cases are easier to make than precision aluminum so they probably had no issues ramping up production. Plus at the end of the day, there are 2 iPhones launching now with their own marketing efforts. Apple is actively targeting the mid-market now (at least in the US).
The 5s is probably in short supply because the fingerprint sensor is brand new and requires manufacturing ramp-up.
We'll see what happens next weekend. I'm guessing that, as usual, Apple won't break out sales by product line. Last year analysts were "disappointed" by sales of 5 million. This year they seem to be ramping predictions down (though Piper Jaffray thinks they'll pre-sell 1 million iPhone 5Cs). I'm guessing we see about 5 million again this year. The 5S is probably supply constrained, and the 5C won't generate long lines since there are tons of them and they can be pre-ordered.
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IIRC the Verizon iPhone 4 launch was rather underwhelming (no lines) but iPhone has quickly become one of Verizon's best selling products. Again, there were no supply constraints by the time it was released.
Exactly. This is the smartphone economy. There are two (maybe three) real players. One depends on market share, the other on profits. I am sick to death of all the B***sh** talk about which phone is BETTER. The 5c will be just perfect for millions of users. There are millions of others who wouldn't be caught dead with one in their pocket... diffferents strokes.
Apple cares about the bottom line, and they don't care about an artificial contest of "winners" and "losers." A good bottom line means that Apple wins, as far as Apple is concerned.
I don't know about that. I do think it will sell very well and might come close to meeting the 5S, but not sure it will beat it.
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We don't know how many they made of each color. Perhaps they assumed the yellow wouldn't be as popular and made less. Thus it sold out sooner.
Will someone kindly tell me for the people that don't care for the 5c (are hating on it, pretending that it's nothing more than the same model as the 5, saying it's a flop, pretending that they couldn't care less that it even exists) are even here at all? Seems like those people are paid to be here.
The iPhone 5 is the best selling iPhone ever. How is that a flop? What Apple did here was smart. The case is the most expensive and time consuming part to produce. So it took the cheaper internal components of last years top selling model and put them in a cheaper to produce case. Moreover, it created some excitement for some people who want a new phone, but don't want to pay as much. Also Apple is not tying up its assembly lines making both the 5 and 5s. This last point is important because the same equipment would be needed to make the 5 and 5s cases. Every 5 Apple made would delay somebody getting a 5s or vise versa.
Finally, many people claimed to skip the 4s because they were waiting for a bigger screen. When Apple introduced the 5 with the bigger screen, the floodgates opened.
You can get an iPhone 5 for nearly half of the cost of a 5C, off-contract, mind you.
Given the same internals, more flexibility for a case, lighter, thinner... that's what I'd do.
The 5C just a 5 with a thicker glossy plastic shell. If it were one of those ulta-soft rubber/silicone backings that grips better and feels soft on the hands, then maybe. But you can just get whatever material case you want for a 5 and it's still hundreds cheaper.
Edit: The 5 wasn't "killed off" for its lack of success... it was simply rebranded 5C because they changed the back casing to increase their margins. They can't, this time round, justiry selling "last year's model" for $100 less as they typically do. It would also seriously eat into the 5S sales as they would then be too similar.
Given the same internals, more flexibility for a case, lighter, thinner... that's what I'd do.
The 5C just a 5 with a thicker glossy plastic shell. If it were one of those ulta-soft rubber/silicone backings that grips better and feels soft on the hands, then maybe. But you can just get whatever material case you want for a 5 and it's still hundreds cheaper.
Edit: The 5 wasn't "killed off" for its lack of success... it was simply rebranded 5C because they changed the back casing to increase their margins. They can't, this time round, justiry selling "last year's model" for $100 less as they typically do. It would also seriously eat into the 5S sales as they would then be too similar.
All colours and specs still available....
All colours and specs still available for 20/9 delivery at Apple UK...folk simply aren't impressed or hyped up enough to buy. Too expensive, Apple.
Simply too expensive for a plastic phone with last years internals.
All colours and specs still available for 20/9 delivery at Apple UK...folk simply aren't impressed or hyped up enough to buy. Too expensive, Apple.
Simply too expensive for a plastic phone with last years internals.