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iPhone 5c Launch Day Supplies Generally Holding Up Well as Pre-Orders Begin

sleepydinosaur said:
Actually YOU are incorrect. Its the iPhone 5 with a larger battery and a colored polycarb rear shell.
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Beg to differ. There are multiple components that are different, as seen in the leaks and demonstrated in the keynote. It has more LTE bands. Have to wait for the teardown to know for sure, but the screen seems to have slightly different tech specs. The logic board (according to leaks) is different. The same CPU and screen size do not make it the same phone.

And to the other dissenter - did the iPhone 5 have STEEL in the frame? This is probably a large part of why the 5c is heavier than the 5.

It's amazing that people will imply that the 5c is the innards of a 5 put in a new case, when it's so easy to visually see that's not the case.
 
Syk said:
Sounds like they should save even more and get the free 4S and then go to ebay or the fleamarket and buy a few check color cases and call it a day.
Nothing against your wife or friends.

Agreed they probably won't sell out because of all the stock they have from the 5 but then again they may have had to build up the supply chain and over estimated the consumers want for the 5C
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Lol. Fair enough, but she owns a 4s now so your plan won't work...... Nevertheless, I get your point.

I have not seen a study on iphone usage, but I would guess that the average contributor to this form has a somewhat skewed view of what the average person does with their phone. I just don't believe most people run into troublesome hardware limitations when using their smartphones because their needs are pretty simple: calls, text, email, contacts, calendars, social media, directions, weather, online banking, web browsing, photos, music, games....stuff like that.
 
With the exception of the iPhone 5, previous interations of new iPhones took about an entire day to sell out. The 5 on the other hand was plauged by supply issues and availible in comparitively small numbers compared to the demand.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/14/ip...and-4s-further-highlighting-apples-dominance/

This is the first time Apple has released 2 phones at the same time, and I suspect that the 5c has been quite easy to produce in mass quantities given it's plastic shell and re-use of most of the same technology. Certainly the suprisingly high cost of the 5c is effecting it's popularity as well. Taking all these factors into consideration, I don't think it's all that suprising that the 5c did not sell out within the first hour. Whether or it sells out at all is yet to be seen. I have no interest in it, but if we see a wide scale sell out within the first 24 hours I'd suspect that means it's doing rather well.

On the other hand, given the fact that reportedly there are only going to be only 3-5 million 5s availible at release, if it doesn't sell out within the first 3 hours then it's time to hit the panic button.
 
gnipgnop said:
I think that you're forgetting that there are large numbers of consumers that didn't necessarily upgrade their phones in 2012 or 2013. And like I said, the iPhone 5 hardware performance is still better for graphics and browser than many of the 2013 flagship phones from other brands.
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Time will tell either way.

Most of the people I know who didn't upgrade were waiting for an iPhone with a bigger screen, and many others bucked waiting and went with HTC One, Galaxy S3/4, and Nexus 4---and, although still diehard Mac fans, they're not going back to iOS anytime soon. I think they represent trends in desires.

The 4" iPhone is nice, and I like mine, but I've got a Nexus 4 for business and it's an outstanding phone (runs stock Android, 4.7", quality build, and 349 unlocked, plus 2yrs of 50gb of Google Drive). The fingerprint sensor is a major improvement, but not earth-shattering (yet!).

My current feeling is that the iPhone 5C is basically the 5 with lower grade externals, and packaged in a way that throws make-up on an old face (let's not forget the 5C has bigger waistline too). Next to the 5C, the 5S just looks even better---it's an immediate visual comparison.

If Apple doesn't sell iPhone 5C like it sold iPhone 5, it won't matter as much because it's year-old tech in a cheaper body (and costs less to manufacture) at 100 dollars less than the premier device. It's a no-brained---Apple's return on the 5C will be big, and it doesn't have to sell many of them.

Alas, the 5S is the one that people will wait in line for, and the one that will sell out in hours before delayed shipments...mark my words.

It's just too bad there's not another screen size bigger this time around. (*sigh* Apple has to kill the iPhone 4 and turn developers away from that little screen to a bigger one)
 
To all these people saying the iPhone 5C is the same as the 5, just in a plastic case: You maybe should broaden your horizon a little bit (beyond the U.S., that is).

The iPhone 5C is NOT just "last year's 5 tech with a colorful plastic shell". :rolleyes:

As an example, 800MHz / 1600MHz / 2600MHz has become the de facto standard for LTE in throughout pretty European Union. Yet there has never been a proper "tri-band LTE" support in an iPhone (5) before for Europe. That's one reason the iPhone 5 doesn't provide LTE support on German Vodafone, one of the biggest carriers in Europe, for instance.

But now, the iPhone 5C does: It's the first Apple iPhone that offers proper (tri-band) LTE support for almost any current LTE network in the big European market.

Along with 5S as well, of course. Even for me as a techie, that's been a valid reason to have skipped the 5 - whereas the 5C might seem interesting again.
 
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Shaun said:
It will be very interesting to see the sales numbers for this over the next year but I suspect that Apple will combine the 5C and 5S sales numbers into one figure so we never get to see if it's a hit or a flop. I just think it's too expensive and not sufficiently cheaper than the 5S to make it a sensible alternative for many people. I think they would have been better to drop the 4S and make the 5C their entry level product instead.
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Remember when the white macbook was Apple's biggest seller? This is the phone equivalent of that. It was expensive, just slightly cheaper than the pro, plastic, and sold like hotcakes.
 
AppliedMicro said:
To all these people saying the iPhone 5C is the same as the 5, just in a plastic case: You maybe should broaden your horizon a little bit (beyond the U.S., that is).

The iPhone 5C is NOT just "last year's 5 tech with a colorful plastic shell". :rolleyes:

As an example, 800MHz / 1600MHz / 2600MHz has become the de facto standard for LTE in throughout pretty European Union. Yet there has never been a proper "tri-band LTE" support in an iPhone (5) before for Europe. That's one reason the iPhone 5 doesn't provide LTE support on German Vodafone, one of the biggest carriers in Europe, for instance.

But now, the iPhone 5C does: It's the first Apple iPhone that offers proper (tri-band) LTE support for almost any current LTE network in the big European market. (Along with 5S as well, of course).

If that's not
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Well that definitely makes the case (and I'm in HK) for buying 90% of last year's internals and a thicker, plastic shell.

...the people so concerned with LTE connectivity are probably more excited by the 5S.
 
http://mobile.businessweek.com/articles/2013-09-13/apples-iphone-problem-in-china-has-an-answer?campaign_id=yhoo
 
Anyone familiar with iPhone4U? Just wondering if this is an outlier or indicative of what sales will be.

iPhone 5S & iPhone 5C demand “truly phenomenal”

“The demand for the new iPhone 5c and 5s has been truly phenomenal in the first few days of pre-registration. We have already seen double digit growth in pre-registrations compared to the same period for iPhone 5 last year, and with the exceptional rate in which we are receiving these, we are predicting that the new handsets will set a record as generating the most pre-registrations ever at Phones 4u,” said Scott Hooton, Chief Commercial Officer at Phones 4u.

He added: “To date, this interest has also shown that 75 per cent are intending to purchase the new iPhone 5c or 5s on 4G, so not only are we expecting pre-orders of the iPhone 5c to go through the roof this weekend, we are gearing up for an exceptionally busy launch day on 20th September, when both officially go on-sale at Phones 4u stores across the country and online.”
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AppliedMicro said:
To all these people saying the iPhone 5C is the same as the 5, just in a plastic case: You maybe should broaden your horizon a little bit (beyond the U.S., that is).

The iPhone 5C is NOT just "last year's 5 tech with a colorful plastic shell". :rolleyes:

As an example, 800MHz / 1600MHz / 2600MHz has become the de facto standard for LTE in throughout pretty European Union. Yet there has never been a proper "tri-band LTE" support in an iPhone (5) before for Europe. That's one reason the iPhone 5 doesn't provide LTE support on German Vodafone, one of the biggest carriers in Europe, for instance.

But now, the iPhone 5C does: It's the first Apple iPhone that offers proper (tri-band) LTE support for almost any current LTE network in the big European market.

Along with 5S as well, of course. And just by the way: Vodafone Germany has partly deployed LTE in many rural areas, which have previously lacked 3G, while some bigger cities haven't got LTE got (being well covered by 3G). In these, the iPhone 5C might make the difference between having fast internet (4G/LTE) or not (limited to 2.5G/EDGE).

Even for me as a techie, that's been a valid reason to have skipped the 5 - whereas the 5C might seem interesting again.
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You do not get it.
The meme is, innovation should be visible, otherwise it is not.

Even the screen size is sell as innovation instead of an option, which it is.
 
tomsamson said:
I feel sorry for everyone who pays this outrageous off contract price for the 5C or gets it via contract subsidisation
(even then it would make more sense to get the 5S or a different phone)
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People keep saying stuff like this and it makes no sense. The 5c is a good phone for a good price. People fail hard on subsidization math, especially when it comes to accounts with multiple lines.

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AppleWarMachine said:
it's not sold out yet :rolleyes: no surprise, if you could pre-order the 5S, it would have been sold out after the first 2 hours. :eek:
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I bet the 5c will outsell the 5s in 2013.
 
FelixAng said:
...the people so concerned with LTE connectivity are probably more excited by the 5S.
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Maybe.

However, to take my little example further, Vodafone Germany has partly deployed LTE in many rural areas, which have previously lacked 3G, while some bigger cities haven't got LTE got (being well covered by 3G). In these, the iPhone 5C might make the difference between having fast internet (4G/LTE) or not (limited to 2.5G/EDGE).

Ochyandkaren said:
You do not get it.
The meme is, innovation should be visible, otherwise it is not.
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So if one of the biggest carriers in Europe had been unable to offer any LTE iPhone before - but is now able to market the iPhone 5C as an "LTE iPhone", that's "not visible innovation"? :confused:

I don't know about Portugal (though I'll be going there next week), but I have just been to Germany - and I can assure you, LTE is visibly marketed there. And why not? The Galaxys have had support for quite a while (without saying anything about the quality of that). Vodafone has quite openly and vocally been blaming Apple for the lack of LTE support on the iPhone.
 
FelixAng said:
Time will tell either way.
Alas, the 5S is the one that people will wait in line for, and the one that will sell out in hours before delayed shipments...mark my words.
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I don't think there's any doubt that the 5s is the one people will wait in line for because it will have the lowest initial supply. That's one of the main points of moving to plastic for the 5c: higher production to meet high demand and wider global distribution. Apple's older models like the 4 and 4s sold quite well when the iPhone 5 was the top tier phone, so it makes sense to take Apple's most popular phone model ever (the 5) and make it easier to mass produce as a 2nd tier option with wider band/network support than it previously offered.
 
marksman said:
People keep saying stuff like this and it makes no sense. The 5c is a good phone for a good price. People fail hard on subsidization math, especially when it comes to accounts with multiple lines.

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I bet the 5c will outsell the 5s in 2013.
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I think so.
I spend most of my time on my iMac, why would i want a phone like the 5S, even if i could afford it?

People who travel allot, perhaps.

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BRLawyer said:
Irrelevant - it is still plastic, and still old news.
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Let us be grown up, here.
Did i say it is not plastic.

Irrelevant for you, or me, does it make it irrelevant for others (why most phones out there are plastic)?

And you seem to miss the point.
 
Plastic 5S

is it just me ... but the perfect phone for me would be the tech from 5S in the 5C housing :)
 
Bathplug said:
Not much hype for these products. Apple need to do better.
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Apple did a good job creating "fake hype". Don't take that term literally because I know some will call it an attack on apple.

There are no preorders for the iphone 5s. People will surely wait outside of stores the night before. If they had preorders, and if the preorder process went smoothly, it may *seem* like they are not selling many units. Now, if people are waiting outside for them it makes it *seem* like they are in high demand which will lure others to purchase them as well!
 
Not a FLOP

Iphone 5c is not a flop, Perfect christmas gift for new growing up kids as their first phone. Mark my words.
 
Xgm541 said:
Apple did a good job creating "fake hype". Don't take that term literally because I know some will call it an attack on apple.

There are no preorders for the iphone 5s. People will surely wait outside of stores the night before. If they had preorders, and if the preorder process went smoothly, it may *seem* like they are not selling many units. Now, if people are waiting outside for them it makes it *seem* like they are in high demand which will lure others to purchase them as well!
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I see you're one of "those" people. Apple doesn't need help selling phones.
 
gnipgnop said:
I don't think there's any doubt that the 5s is the one people will wait in line for because it will have the lowest initial supply. That's one of the main points of moving to plastic for the 5c: higher production to meet high demand and wider global distribution. Apple's older models like the 4 and 4s sold quite well when the iPhone 5 was the top tier phone, so it makes sense to take Apple's most popular phone model ever (the 5) and make it easier to mass produce as a 2nd tier option with wider band/network support than it previously offered.
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Okay---trends in tech change very fast. The iPhone 4S will soon be irrelevant, if it's not already. If you're buying a 4S, you're probably not locked into the ecosystem, which is one reason I can see in simply upgrading to the 5C. But looking at iPhone 4 and 4S stats is not going to help. There are so many more alternatives (and quality ones at that) now.

And I agree, the 5C is a cheaper alternative to manufacturing the iPhone 5, while also having some make-up. If anything, the 5C makes the 5S look even better (and probably feel) than it would displayed next to an iPhone 5.
 
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