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iPhone 5c Launch Day Supplies Generally Holding Up Well as Pre-Orders Begin
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I'm sure the 5c has it's demographics picked out. And honestly, I'm sure many of my son's friends will have one (most have iPhones already). But I was in the AT&T store on Wednesday getting a new SIM card for the iPhone4s. I was really impressed by some of the color selections on the android phones. They offered similar colors to the iPhone5c but with an additional 5 or more colors. Would have been nice to have a few more options.
No, it is still being manufactured. But it was re-engineered to be built more cheaply, with a higher retail margin, and positioned to have a whole new marketing angle.
What is old has been made new again, and at higher margins.
It has nothing to do with any comparison to any "liked" amount of "hype".
People underestimate the average "non-techy" population. They will gobble the 5C up, and rightfully so. It is a well designed phone at a good price and the colors will excite people. My mom is due to upgrade her 4 and was asking about the 5C.
They are going to sell a ton of phones.
They are going to sell a ton of phones.
I have to marvel at the predictions on macrumors. From the iPod, iPad, iPad mini, etc. Some people never seem to grow tired of being wrong. Either that or they are paid by someone to post negatively. In any case, someone else mentioned this and they are right. Many general consumers upgrading don't usually upgrade to the latest and greatest. They upgrade to the cheapest new option. Only a small portion will go with the latest each time.
As for the iOS 7 icons, I did some informal research. Anyone who was not a programmer/engineer loved them (in other words, most people) while most tech types either were neutral or didn't like them. Other surveys I've seen show similar results.
Also remember that the first sign of a mature product/category is the offering of colors and stylish differentiation. So the smartphone category has been in maturity for a little bit now and is rounding out with Apple offering color options. Mainstream adoption is pretty much there and the market will begin to steady and eventually decline until the next disruption occurs.
Anyway, I've got a 5 and will likely get a 5S soon. My wife will either get my 5 or a 5C.
As for the iOS 7 icons, I did some informal research. Anyone who was not a programmer/engineer loved them (in other words, most people) while most tech types either were neutral or didn't like them. Other surveys I've seen show similar results.
Also remember that the first sign of a mature product/category is the offering of colors and stylish differentiation. So the smartphone category has been in maturity for a little bit now and is rounding out with Apple offering color options. Mainstream adoption is pretty much there and the market will begin to steady and eventually decline until the next disruption occurs.
Anyway, I've got a 5 and will likely get a 5S soon. My wife will either get my 5 or a 5C.
I don't necessarily agree with the point either, but, hey, the 5C isn't going to sell because it's slimmer or more sleek (uncommon for Apple, it's a plumper new generation); it's not going to sell because of internals (basically nothing has changed since iPhone 5); the camera isn't much better; the A6 chip isn't new anymore.
Okay, it's a hundred dollars cheaper. Is that what you want to hear, that what makes 5C a buy isn't the candy-shell, but a $100 lower price?
Thank you. Evidentiary info time... My sister rings me up yesterday (she's got an ancient Same-sung phone btw) suddenly wanting to know about the "NEW" $99 iPhone !!
She's a consumer whose all about PRICE and that only and the word NEW attached.
A vast majority -- in these passion driven - core customer forums speak as though they are the very same client Apple is positioning the C towards. C'mon people! Geez... These upgrades are CYCLICAL for a reason...the 4s I'd point out was a HUGE seller for Apple.. So that PROVES the "incremental" market is HUGE.. Like it or not..and duly noted.. The 4/4s are still big sellers even with a market SATURATED with "bigger screens" and fire sale BOGOF offers galore..
Yea... FACTS matter.
All about China
You guys are fooling yourselves if you think the 5C was created for anyone other than China. Even if they sell to 1/8 of China Mobile's customers that's around 88 million phones. Any sales they get outside of China is just extra gravy.
You guys are fooling yourselves if you think the 5C was created for anyone other than China. Even if they sell to 1/8 of China Mobile's customers that's around 88 million phones. Any sales they get outside of China is just extra gravy.
It shouldn't be too hard to understand it, but apparently it is for you.
If you have been in a contract for 2 years, then you don't have the iPhone 5, but the 4/4s or even the 3GS. Then the iPhone 5c is a big upgrade.
Also, the iPhone 5c, with a one year old chip, has a much faster GUI than any android in the market
The vast majority of kids will want an Android phone - the market share numbers make that clear enough.
But is that relevant? The market is big enough for Apple to make billions of dollars in profit from the tens of millions of people who choose to get an iPhone, despite many more people choosing Android.
Guess what... What will stop Apple from changing up the color selection down the road even six months from now? Nothing
Trust me - very few -- very few things in the business world get executed without analytical information to back that up.. Today -- more than just a year ago -- all these companies know way more about "tastes" from us than ever. Ever.
I'm certain Apple has ceded a segment of its market to Andriod that quite frankly will likely never jump back to Apple.. Some of the studies I've analyzed very recently conclude this.
You'd be surprised that the two formats are coexisting with different clientele more than MANY here to accept. They ( droids and iOS devices) don't really overlap as much as you might think... Even you yourself spotted "differences" in the colors of the brands..
Pretty sure it's just scalpers from Hong Kong getting ready to sell them in other countries that aren't on the launch day list.
Makes me laugh when people make sweeping assumptions about countries... first it was "oh Asia is too poor to afford, so the 5C will be super cheap", then when that didn't become reality it's "oh Asian loves bright colours!!!"... get with it guys.
I was disappointed at first with the price. Now I think apple made the right decision.
They can make the same profit now selling half of the amount of phones, without compromising the brand.
Going low cost means Apple would be out of place for the next launches
They can make the same profit now selling half of the amount of phones, without compromising the brand.
Going low cost means Apple would be out of place for the next launches
Probably safe to say that the Pee Yellow
color will be the slowest of the bunch.
I'm going for Yellow because it matches my car.
Lame I know but I needed some kind of help in deciding what colour to get.
Guess what... What will stop Apple from changing up the color selection down the road even six months from now? Nothing
Hahaha...true! And many people will claim that they were hosed by Apple because they didn't have the choice of black, brown, purple, whatever when they bought their now outdated 5c.
Or maybe it is just Apple tweaking the numbers so that people who cannot get their loved iPhone 5C switched to the guaranteed iPhone 5S...
I will never understand this stupidity with the sell-outs which in most cases are just virtual and created by the company to maximize their profits and force those who doubt buying to actually buy it or face unavailability for long...
That's minimum... you spin figures more than Apple do. Will people on minimum wage in the West be buying iPhone 5S and 5Cs - I highly doubt it.
2 seconds in Google showed me this - http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-07/06/content_15555503.htm
2011 average in Beijing was 4,672元 or 730$ or 460£ - it's likely gone up further since.
As someone who lives in China majority of the year, I facepalm every time I read a post claiming how poor Chinese are - the middle make up an enormous part of the population, and they are the ones earning average and above wages. They also have more disposable income due to cheaper living costs overall.
I guess it's just not possible to GRASP the shear size of Apples customer base and what percentage of that base are happy loyal customers that quite possibly like the company and own other Apple devices.. I'm in fact one of them. Given the sheer disaster of "quality customer service" in the worlds commercial marketplace -- I'll stick to this company that so far - so far has been good to me as a customer... Yea I'm one that values that "experience" over the screen real estate on my devices. I'm not alone in that thinking.
Not technically sold out, you can get one, you just have to wait longer. These are physical tangible items, not virtual. Thus only so many can be made at a time; Apple knows exactly how many they can make and how long it takes to get them in the pipeline. If they can only have X amount on release day, and they sell X + Y; those Y people won't get them on release day. It takes TIME to manufacture products.
Not like software that can be downloaded an infinite amount of time; those crack me up with they say "Sold Out."
Because they made the least of this color. Smart move. Don't want to get stuck with too many of those!
No disrespect but if "I AM BUYING" my 14 year old an iPhone and "I AM PAYING THE MONTHLY RECURRING CHARGE" he's gonna take what's available, not act so entitled. Sorry pal, I am a parent too and I do think that today's world gives kids (that aren't paying for anything) too much power in decision making.
On a different note, I do agree there aren't enough "guy colors". They white one is fine but they could've added a black one FFS.
and countries and places that rely completely on the black market to supply them with phones.
but some are so ignorant about the outside world that they honestly think a year old device in a new bright colored shell that costs $549 before tax unlocked in the US is cheap
No issues with my order
I just ordered a 32gb green 5C from the Apple Store online for my gf, ships the 20th.
I just ordered a 32gb green 5C from the Apple Store online for my gf, ships the 20th.