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iPhone 5S and 5C Expected to Launch in Japan on September 20
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You are correct of course and just maybe, since we didn't see any front assembly's for upcoming iPhone refresh, Apple will surprise us all and introduce 4.7" screens. Wishful thinking, but you never know...
It was researched, tested, and proven by Consumer Reports (link). It was then acknowledged by Apple themselves.
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What is it with with all of you "one handed" iPhone use guys?
Are you handicapped and don't have a second hand (apologies if you are), or just brainwashed by Apple one handed, finger goes from here to here adds?
I have small hands and have always used iPhone with two hands, even 3GS.
They must have a ton of these phones already built to be launching in Japan the same time as the US and the other typical "first day" countries.
I'm with you on this, especially within the USA with subsidized phones and 2 year contracts. I suspect that for most existing iPhone customers, the upgrade choice is being made between the 4/4S to the 5S/5C, not between the 5 and 5S/5C. Existing iPhone users fall into three categories, I think:
A) 4/4S users that bypassed the upgrade to the iPhone 5 because contracts were not up yet, or expired very recently and are waiting to see the 5S.
B) 4/4S users that are new to the iPhone since last September and chose the 4/4S over the 5 as a better value. Their contracts won't be up for another year or more and are not really making upgrade decisions until the iPhone 6 is launched.
C) Have an iPhone 5. Their contracts won't be up until the iPhone 6 launch either.
The vast majority of upgrades will come from group A. I just don't see the feature comparison between the 5 and 5S as a relevant one.
I suspect the 4" screen, LTE, faster processor and more memory are pretty compelling for most 4/4S users on expired contracts to upgrade to the rumored 5S features. I don't know what the features of a 5C would be, so I'm not sure which I would choose.
For me, personally, with my 4S, I am invested in the Apple ecosystem and see no reason to look at an Android phone. I don't really care if an Android is bigger or "better". It can't be better enough to justify the effort of switching ecosystems when I can get a 5S/C upgrade with a simple restore from iCloud.
For the majority of existing iPhone 5 users, the most relevant comparison will be the features of the iPhone 5 vs. the iPhone 6, when it comes out next year.
Woooah look at Mr. Fancy over here flaunting his money... Overcompensating much?
It's simple math. There are more low-income than there are rich. This means the colored models will sell well... Why else is the 16GB iPhone the top selling? What about the MBP? Why else was the baseline 13" MBP the top selling sku for so long?
When provided a cheaper alternative with little compromise, most people will take that option.
That's a fair point, but if the profit margin on the 5C is greater than the profit margin on the 5S, why release a 5S at all, why not just release a 5C and make everyone buy that one?
That said, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume the profit margin on the higher priced premium model is greater than the profit margin on a less expensive model in the same family - this is Apple, they don't build products to be cheaper, that's what commodity manufacturers do. The more expensive products in their families they entice people to buy with various premium elements, why? Because they make less profit from them? That simply doesn't make any sense.
We do know that the iPhone contributes 60% (and perhaps growing) to Apple's total profit (we know this from the Samsung lawsuit filings). They obviously are aware of this, so it's quite safe to assume they will do *nothing* to risk harming that profit flow, and I'm pretty sure they will have thought through any change in the iPhone line very seriously.
I still contend the 5C and 5S (both as rumoured) are too similar (which was my main point) to be released by Apple, which means we're missing something, and it has nothing to do with profit margins or components prices or contract vs. off-contract US pricing which will differentiate these products, nor the few features that are currently rumoured that supposedly differentiate the two phones. The good news is we only have a few weeks to wait till we find out.
Haha thanks, you live, and learn. Sometimes branching out is good though. But I'll definitely be glad to be back!
I still have a tiny bit of unreasonable hope that Tim Cook only doubled down on secrecy for the bigger iPhone
You're not the only one. Two different screen sizes for the 5S would do wonders for AAPL stock, maybe even enough for it to knock on Google stock's door soon after the announcement.
Yes I have used phones with bigger screens. And while I do like the htc one and all I just have really small girly hands and it doesn't work for me. Different strokes for different fokes as the old saying goes lol.
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Ummm which one ?
Im with Softbank so Im hoping that they offer both but which one - Im thinking the 5C if it comes in 32gb.
Does anybody know what features it will be missing ?
I dont really need a fingerprint scanner.....Siri, yes
Im with Softbank so Im hoping that they offer both but which one - Im thinking the 5C if it comes in 32gb.
Does anybody know what features it will be missing ?
I dont really need a fingerprint scanner.....Siri, yes
.. and this is why Android is destroying iOS now. Year after year of the same stupid updates. A tiny CPU upgrade, a little better camera, and some random feature no one really cares about. Get your **** together, Apple.
.. and this is why Android is destroying iOS now. Year after year of the same stupid updates. A tiny CPU upgrade, a little better camera, and some random feature no one really cares about. Get your **** together, Apple.
I have to agree with you ! I love Apple but I was blown away after seeing the Moto X and how you interact with the phone. Wish Siri was like that.
Im getting pulled towards android as I now have a Nexus 7. I do love Apples eco-system especially as Im an Aussie in Japan who can use Aussie itunes. Cant do that with google play as it defaults to the Japanese store (and you cant change it).
5C for me though is enough !
And this is what a lot of people have forgotten. When the iPhone first came out, 3.5 inches was what we were told, "The Perfect Size" of screen.
After a few years Apple must of been feeling the pressure from consumers for a larger screen, so they released the iPhone 5. This phone was quoted as having "The Perfect Screen Size" by Apple.
Here we are now in the third quarter of 2013 and some of us are asking for a screensize of about 4.3 or 4.5 inches and the followers on here are up in arms.
Why weren't you same people up in arms when it went from 3.5 to 4 inches?
I find it very hypocritical of those same people demanding their screen stay 4 inches.
Apple will do whatever is in their best interest to their consumer base, and to sell phones. If the demand for a larger screen is there, then they will increase the screen eventually. I am sure Apple is aware of the demand and possibility of doing it, just not in 2013.
I get that, but the upgrade price wouldn't truly be £600.
Without knowing the condition of your 32GB iPhone5, a quick on-line search tells me that your current gen phone, being less than a year old, sold privately, could fetch 400-450, bringing your upgrade price down significantly.
However, selling privately is a bit of a hassle, and trading up through your carrier, will admittedly end up costing you more though.
See, I just don't get this. First of all, who has two cell phones? Why would anybody need two cell phones? Is one number for your mistress, and one for your wife? Do you just have too much money and need to spend it on redundant technology? You even say you use both at the same time. What? Why?
Then you talk about waiting for the iPhone 6 for all these years. Yeah, guess what, the iPhone 5 was the iPhone 6. This new phone coming out, that'll probably be named iPhone 5S, that's the iPhone 7. You imagined in your head a device that was not technically feasible at the time at reasonable prices, imagined that Apple would bring it out with a set of steak knives (or some other absurd things), and that Apple would break their naming scheme just for you. When that didn't happen, you felt disappointed, not in yourself for believing a bunch of nonsense, but at Apple for not being a magical wishing lamp. Get over it. iPhone 6 is already out. It just wasn't named what you wanted it named.
So what, you're going to switch to another phone OS? What, precisely, does that other phone have at the time of the iPhone's release, not six or ten months later, that is so amazing? A dinky stylus? Gestures that don't work properly? A larger screen that's not efficiently used by apps because the app was designed for some other subset of screen resolutions or shapes due to a fragmented platform? Some other gimmick, like missed calls that won't go through when the OS gets unstable from all the hacks, ruining its core functionality?
Okay, by all means, go switch. Considering how many people switch back, I just assume you're coming back again. Do we really need all this drama in the meantime, where you announce your intentions to a bunch of iPhone users who really couldn't care less what you do? Just go quietly, if you're going. If you're not going, then quit your whining, and admit you prefer iOS or you would've switched long ago, since apparently, Android phones are just amazing. Apple sells insane numbers of iPhones every year, compared to all those other phones. Apple's going to have yet another record quarter selling iPhones and iPads this fall and winter. Apple doesn't need your help to sell phones. They don't care that you like this gimmick or that gimmick, Apple knows what features are pointless to the majority of users, and knows what to leave out. They're not going for the best spec sheet, they're going for the best core experience. Their customers are retained at incredible rates, and Apple keeps selling to new customers too. You can scream and yell about how Apple needs to make a phone with a bigger screen, but Apple doesn't care about your niche market, and doesn't need your niche market. Apple keeps selling more phones. Get over it, and leave the (growing) rest of us alone.
All you are is just a troll, looking for attention.
And every other phone had the exact same "problem" too. It's a problem that applies only to areas with already weak signals, and the iPhone 4 was better than the 3GS in those same areas, receiving a stronger signal in absolute terms over the 3GS, even with the magical "death grip", due to its overall better antenna. It's a basic matter of radio physics that applies to every radio, cell phones being one subset of radios, and iPhones being one subset of cell phones. You had to go to an area where many other cell phones would get no signal at all, in order to make the 4 lose its signal with your hand.
Consumer Reports held the iPhone 4 to a different standard than the other phones they tested, performing tests they did not perform on other devices. They embarrassed themselves in light of the overwhelming sales figures for the iPhone 4, and tens of millions of satisfied customers who experienced no problem at all, proving that Consumer Reports is an outdated, ineffectual organization incapable of proper technology reviews (I'd still use them for car reports though). I've never personally met any iPhone 4 user who had any complaints about signal strength or dropped calls. I have heard only scattered anecdotal evidence from anonymous internet users that there was any problem at all. I've seen videos of actual iPhone 4 users failing to reproduce the "problem".
Apple's "acknowledgement" was to refute the claim that theirs was the only phone suffering from the "problem", and offer free bumper cases to end a vicious media feeding frenzy in the echo-chamber of ignorant reporters looking for page hits and ratings. Anything Apple does or doesn't do becomes a massive news story, deserved or not, because Apple customers are very happy with Apple, and Apple-haters love to hate. For other examples in this phenomena, see the standard to which Apple's contract factories are held to, or the standard to which Apple's tax practices are held to. It is considerably different than how other companies are reported on.
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I for one am hoping the iPhone 5S comes out with a 3.5" version. Yes, we do exist.