And the world's most popular smartphone continues to be a 4" smartphone. So much for "everyone" wanting a giant screen.
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iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c Sales Top Nine Million in Launch Weekend
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You are wrong. Apple only count sales as sales. Does not matter if they sell them to retail or end users. As if a retailer like a phone carrier has any iPhone dead stock they can't just hand it back to Apple, as they bought them from Apple and have to somehow rid themselves of the excess stock themselves.
When Apple quote sales, they actually quote sales. Unlike some others who only quote shipments.
That some people HAVE to buy from Apple does not mean they don't want something more.
When the WSJ posts news regarding new hardware features, event dates, and sales figures, that info is coming directly from Apple. They have a longstanding relationship in which Apple feeds them info when it benefits them.
But yes, all other post types are just more conjecture and speculation.
I, for one, don't believe >4" will see widespread adoption amongst business people (BB switchers) at least. Anything larger won't fit in a suit pocket nor do holsters for phones that big comfortably fit when sitting in an office chair.
Lol!! Umm... I guess like nine million people disagree with you! =P
You must be a VERY casual user to say "meh", compared to your 4S..
You don't even have 4G. You wouldn't like a five fold increase in net speed, at least a quad increase in processor speed, MUCH better camera & a larger screen?? I believe it is fair to count you in the extreme minuscule minority.
Wall Street requires they count units sold, not shipped. They are on the accrual basis for financial reporting. Some retailers like Best Buy purchase the phones so those are counted immediately. Others don't so they only count when sold to the customer. Anything from Apple counts the minute you click submit.
How else would they report 24-hour sales numbers?
For one thing, to get off the "S" upgrade cycle. iOS7 was the big thing for me and my 4S seems to do ok with it. Ok Ok Ok, I will go play with one of these 5S's and see how big of a difference I notice.
anti-gravity would be nice though.
Nope. Apple counts units shipped out to retailers and carriers. For direct sales, they only count iPhones delivered to end users.
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/09/24/apples-5-million-iphone-5-sales-what-analysts-are-saying/
Apple: "We, like, totally shipped 3 iphones each to all of our stores and they've, like, all sold out. Demand is incredible."
Demand is always high when there is ZERO Supply
what a joke
There are lots of comments like these on the previous threads.
I can only laugh at them.
If we took total profit share and total phone margins, then the clear winner is Apple. Profits > marketshare or total activations.
You're absolutely incorrect. That is, unless Apple has changed how they report sold. Apple has always counted a sale to be sale to an individual and ultimate user. This was Jobs original argument with record labels, who thought their customers were the retail stores; Apple and Jobs changed all that. Except for Apple, the Samsungs, HPs, Microsofts of the world continue to count shipments to retailers as sales.
Apple does not count shipments to Best Buy, Walmart, AT&T, Verizon stores as sales. A sale for Apple occurs only when the Best Buys of the world actually make a sale to a customer.
How many 4S's have been sold total? Compare that to 9mil and that would be your answer.
By comparison, Samsung shipped 10 million Galaxy S4 phones in their first 28 days of availability. But of course, the iPhone is stale and just a rehash of last years model ya know....
Don't confuse yourself with the combined sales. You don't know how many iPhone 5c's sold alone. Also, it is basically last years model in a new shell. We all expected the iPhone 5s to do well. The question mark was over the 5c
I have no doubt Apple will continue to sell millions upon millions of iPhones. I'm just curious how much bigger that number would of been if the iPhone screen size was increased.
Could we have seen 11-12 million units sold?
I'm expecting the iPad mini with Retina to double it's sales numbers when released if the price stays roughly the same as the last model.
Another way of looking at it, is this:
The 4S was a damn fine phone. And it still is.
It's users are happy with it and when they will finally switch, they'll probably buy an iPhone again because now they know, that a new iPhone will last a long time.
I sure hope they'll keep a smaller option when they start to increase the screensize.. i don't want it any bigger.
Actually it really doesn't matter. The 5C (although almost the same as a 5) is a new product launch. 9 million is a huge number however you split it.
I'm not sure this is correct. Especially since I've seen contradictory information elsewhere and sales are counted differently in investor reporting.
I think youre missing the point.
Doesnt matter if they have increased or decreased the amount of countries at launch.
The point being they have been able to place 9million orders and have them shipped in 3 days.
Clearly theres no deliberate constraining of orders and theyve able to mobilize the building, the inventory and the shipping of the units.
By adding countries just means theyve got better and building and shipping not that theres more people who want the phones.
The demand was always there. The other countries just had to wait longer last time.
In short the 9 million is 9 million in 3 days and not 30 days like last time.
Impressive as no company wants to build inventory and have them sit in warehouses like Surface.
No billion dollar write downs here.