iPhone 5S Fingerprint Scanning Home Button to Look Nearly Identical, iOS 7 for iPad to Debut Later with New Hardware?

[donutbagel]

the only people i've seen use a passcode are teenage girls, and users with a corporate email policy that require it.

That's not what I'm seeing. I only know one other person who doesn't use a passcode, and I know a LOT of iOS users.

I still don't use one because I don't want to look like a d***** and because if someone steals it, not having the passcode will increase the chance that he will use it without wiping it or anything and let me track it down with Find My iPhone. Let's face it, your friends would do more damage with an iPhone with a passcode that they somehow get into than an iPhone that is trustingly left unlocked. Plus, if I lock it, I have to disable Siri at the lock screen to be secure, and then it's just inconvenient. To put this into context, I don't have any sensitive data on my iPhone.

 

[rovex]

Get an iOS7 for ipad with split screen multitasking

 

[twigman08]

couldnt the thief easily fake it? your phone is usually covered in fingerprints (i may watch too much CSI)

While yes someone could technically go and retrieve your fingerprint a certain way for biometrics the chances of someone who steals your iPhone to have the technology, time, and will power to do it almost deserves to get into your phone.

Their are numerous of places I now work and go to that I have to get in by fingerprint scanning. I clock in and out of work by scanning my fingerprint actually.

 

[SockRolid]

... he says Apple is considering a delay in the final release of iOS 7 for the iPad, perhaps holding it for release in late September or early October alongside the launch of updated iPad hardware.

And presumably the new iPad and iPad mini will also have the fingerprint-sensing home button.
If the rumors are all true, of course.

 

[lolkthxbai]

"Doubling down", lol.

Your user profile picture scared the crap out of me as I was scrolling down the thread.

I'm very interested in seeing how this new fingerprint sensor will look like. It seems everyone has their own opinion of how it will look.

 

[crackbookpro]

The iPhone is coming to your car. Besides your wallet going bye byes, you may one day just use the biometric scanning in the upcoming iPhone 5S to pay a toll via an app.

Apple will be doing more utility with this aquisition of authentec than many think. This iPhone 5S will be the biggest news since the first gen went to debut in '07.

Give it 18months for the eWallet ecosystem/platform to adopt worldwide. The brick & mortar store(s) will be following suit within the year or two.

 

[macnisse]

Fingerprint scanning... meh, bring me native multitouch gestures for the iphone (without the need to jailbreak as of now...

 

[Michael Scrip]

Just noticed that iOS 7 support audio only facetime. I'm surprised this hasn't been publicized more. This will kill VoIP providers - you'll be able to call anyone for the cost of your network connection.

It depends on if your data connection costs more than your allotment of "minutes"

Many new plans today just go ahead and give you unlimited minutes and texts... and then charge outrageous sums of money for data.

In the old days... it was "I'm running out of minutes for the month"

Now it's "I'm running out of data for the month"

Believe me... the carriers will get that money out of you somehow

 

[Alumeenium]

now the NSA can increase its fingerprint database

thanks "innovators"

 

[Defender2010]

I only put a passcode on when I'm traveling on the bus to questionable areas (Everett Station, downtown Seattle, the occasional trip to Portland, etc.)
Otherwise I keep my phone in my pocket at work, an I can't be bothered with a passcode at home.

Portland Oregon or Portland Maine?

 

[lolkthxbai]

Sure. Except you can call, say, your kid if they only have an iPod Touch.

Or an iPad! (Or did the iPad not get this feature...?)

 

[benji888]

That's not what I'm seeing. I only know one other person who doesn't use a passcode, and I know a LOT of iOS users.

I still don't use one because I don't want to look like a d***** and because if someone steals it, not having the passcode will increase the chance that he will use it without wiping it or anything and let me track it down with Find My iPhone. Let's face it, your friends would do more damage with an iPhone with a passcode that they somehow get into than an iPhone that is trustingly left unlocked. Plus, if I lock it, I have to disable Siri at the lock screen to be secure, and then it's just inconvenient. To put this into context, I don't have any sensitive data on my iPhone.

The only part of your post that makes sense is that you don't want to disable Siri at the lock screen because it's inconvenient, but, that doesn't have to do with security, just convenience.

The phone doesn't need to be in use to track it down, just on. If they power it off, it doesn't matter if it has a passcode or not.

 

[AngerDanger]

what if it doesn't acknowledge a press unless it sees a finger?
Then your pocket could press it all day, and nothing would happen?

Sure, that solves the software problems, but people complain about how fragile the home button is right now. Imagine if there was an actual protrusion to break off when an iPhone falls. The button would also be under pressure whenever the phone is face-down. It would rock back and for too. A convex home button really doesn't make sense.

 

[benji888]

it's possible to retrieve someone's fingerprint and use it for biometrics, but it's not something easy to do.

but, even then, it would be extremely difficult...just like the capacitive touch screen is sensitive to heat as well as touch...so, too, the hardware/software tech for fingerprint sensing, (that Apple bought) would not allow this, it would fail.

 

[tommyminahan]

Sure, that solves the software problems, but people complain about how fragile the home button is right now. Imagine if there was an actual protrusion to break off when an iPhone falls. The button would also be under pressure whenever the phone is face-down. It would rock back and for too. A convex home button really doesn't make sense.

I agree.
i'm just point out what they could do with it..

Yes, it would be ten times more scratched and it would cause the phone to sit funny, though apples stance would probably be "Why are you facing your phone down?"

 

[Keerock]

Majority of my friends and associates use it.

the only people i've seen use a passcode are teenage girls, and users with a corporate email policy that require it.

am I crazy? I find that close to 100% of people I know use a passcode...

 

[benji888]

Sure, that solves the software problems, but people complain about how fragile the home button is right now. Imagine if there was an actual protrusion to break off when an iPhone falls. The button would also be under pressure whenever the phone is face-down. It would rock back and for too. A convex home button really doesn't make sense.

I've never had the home button break. iPhones since feb. 2009, ...but, yeah, if it would be convex, it would only be in the center and not protrude as far as the edge of the screen. It wouldn't make sense to have such a button be the farthest thing sticking up out of the phone.

 

[applesith]

am I crazy? I find that close to 100% of people I know use a passcode...

Most folks here in NYC seem to use it, including myself.

 

[tommyminahan]

am I crazy? I find that close to 100% of people I know use a passcode...

Maybe it depends on where you live? Are you in a large city with a high device theft rate?

I know many people with iphones, and only those who are required by exchange activesync use passcodes..
i dunno.. i'd love to see some statistics on this.


someone make a poll with age/area code on it and ask whether or not they use a passcode? lol

 

[BvizioN]

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Will AAPL sell my fingerprint data linked to my identity to other company, PRISM, NSA, ETC. so they can identify me and trace me anytime i touch any of the camouflaged fingerprint readers they will hide all over door knobs, benches, taps, politician handshakes and toilet flushes ?

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Yes Mr Bond. Be afraid - be very afraid.

 

[donutbagel]

The only part of your post that makes sense is that you don't want to disable Siri at the lock screen because it's inconvenient, but, that doesn't have to do with security, just convenience.

The phone doesn't need to be in use to track it down, just on. If they power it off, it doesn't matter if it has a passcode or not.

The point is that someone is more likely to power it off or wipe it if it's locked. I also forgot to mention that when testing with Xcode, the iPhone has to be unlocked to be used, so that's more inconvenience. I decided it was pointless to add inconvenience and make the phone a little less likely to be tracked when stolen since I don't keep sensitive information on there. I'm assuming that a passcode could be cracked or the data extracted in some way, so I'm afraid to put anything on there that I wouldn't mind in the hands of a crook.

 

[thisisdallas]

From the 9to5Mac article:

"According to Apple sources privy to customer usage data, a very small percentage of iPhone owners use a passcode."

Really? Most people can't even be bothered to use a 4-digit code? I guess I had been assuming that a basic passcode was pretty much the norm for a great majority of iPhone users.

Nah, I don't really feel the need to have a passcode for my iPhone since it's either in my pocket, my hand, my charging dock, or my car dock. However, i'd gladly use the fingerprint sensor to unlock my phone if it didn't take a really long time to activate. It'd be incredibly handy in combatting pocket dialing and would add a bit of security to my otherwise vulnerable phone

 

[juanmanas]

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Will AAPL sell my fingerprint data linked to my identity to other company, PRISM, NSA, ETC. so they can identify me and trace me anytime i touch any of the camouflaged fingerprint readers they will hide all over door knobs, benches, taps, politician handshakes and toilet flushes ?

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Don't embarrass yourself

 

[g-7]

Apple engineers are also "said to be working overtime" to ensure that iOS 7 runs smoothly on the iPhone 4

I really hope so. iOS 6 was actually faster on iPhone 4 than iOS 5, but first iOS 7 betas were totally unusable, with beta 6 being still significantly slower than 6.1.3.

 

[kmichalec]

Spy Shop place? You live in Langley Virginia don't you?

Actually, no, Detroit suburbs. I know of 2 such shops in the Southfield area alone, as I pass by them on my way to work every day. Ironically, they are right across the street from each other too, which I always thought was odd.