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And?

It's pretty much the same phone as the current 5, with a different camera and some other gimmick feature.

This strategy of releasing a re-hash phone every other year will do nothing to boost sales and stop the marketshare bleeding.

They've followed the same pattern for every iPhone. Not sure why you're surprised. It seems to be working fine for Apple. It's probably not very realistic for you to expect them to redesign it every 6 months. Throwing out useless terms like marketshare bleeding doesn't help your case. Unrealistic and ignorant.
 
And?

It's pretty much the same phone as the current 5, with a different camera and some other gimmick feature.

This strategy of releasing a re-hash phone every other year will do nothing to boost sales and stop the marketshare bleeding.


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You do realize the 4s and the 3GS outsold the 4 and 3g right? I would call that a sales boost.
 
They've followed the same pattern for every iPhone. Not sure why you're surprised. It seems to be working fine for Apple. It's probably not very realistic for you to expect them to redesign it every 6 months. Throwing out useless terms like marketshare bleeding doesn't help your case. Unrealistic and ignorant.

I get that some people want a bigger screen (not me personally) but aside from that I don't get this obsession with something needing to be redesigned every year. Why does it matter if the phone looks different? And from a business standpoint does it make sense to redesign every year? The 5 might not look that different than the 4S but obviously the manufacturing process is different. Changing that process obviously costs $$$. How does changing it up every year make financial sense?
 
If it's not going to be glass end at the back (like iPhone 4), I might be holding to my 4s a little longer.

That aluminum back is not going to earn my money.
 
The only way I see them bringing in a new low cost iphone is if they immediately discontinue previous year iphones when the new one is released. Then those phones have to be supported in iOS updates for less time because they're on sale for fewer years.

I imagine they'll have some kind of greatest common denominator SoC platform that fits their ipod touch, apple tv, ipad mini and cheap iphone offerings and their A_ and A_x offerings for their new products.

That's why I don't understand the concept of the 'low cost' phone. They've already got one, the one from two years ago. I can't believe that developing an entirely new phone is going to be more cost efficient than just selling the old one.
 
I get that some people want a bigger screen (not me personally) but aside from that I don't get this obsession with something needing to be redesigned every year. Why does it matter if the phone looks different? And from a business standpoint does it make sense to redesign every year? The 5 might not look that different than the 4S but obviously the manufacturing process is different. Changing that process obviously costs $$$. How does changing it up every year make financial sense?

I like the stability in the product line... by doing so, it allows 3rd party companies enough time to develop some really cool accessories and add-ons for the iPhone line. With consistency, they don't have to keep updating designs to meet the size of the month. Besides, I'm cool with the current size. Works well for what I use it for... which is a lot.

Looking forward to seeing what they pack into the new 5s. Better camera, more battery life are always welcomed.
 
If it's not going to be glass end at the back (like iPhone 4), I might be holding to my 4s a little longer.

That aluminum back is not going to earn my money.

Much smarter to have the back that can shatter? Who looks at the back of their phone anyways? Do you not put it in a case to protect your $200+ investment?
 
If it's not going to be glass end at the back (like iPhone 4), I might be holding to my 4s a little longer.

That aluminum back is not going to earn my money.

The glass back was a horribly expensive design flaw. It was expensive to use the glass...and it was expensive for the consumer when the glass would break despite being in a case. My aluminum 5 looks much better after 10ish months than my 4s did after 3 months.
 
That's why I don't understand the concept of the 'low cost' phone. They've already got one, the one from two years ago. I can't believe that developing an entirely new phone is going to be more cost efficient than just selling the old one.

Because they can tie in the costs of things like SoCs and displays to the iPod touch (which will likely match in specs) while still marketing a "BRAND NEW" low-cost iPhone versus a re-hashed 2'year old device.

If I put two phones in front of you, with almost the same internals, but one had been on the market for 2 years and the other just came out, which would you choose?
 
And?

It's pretty much the same phone as the current 5, with a different camera and some other gimmick feature.

This strategy of releasing a re-hash phone every other year will do nothing to boost sales and stop the marketshare bleeding.


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A fingerprint scanner is a gimmick? Lol. Assuming Apple will include it seamlessly because they have standards, it will be a revolution in smartphones because the lockscreen would be a thing of the past. You could make photo albums, apps, email accounts, etc. accessible to only the owner when they swipe their finger to access it.
 
If it's the same form factor as the 5 then it looks like I'll be holding on to my 4s for another year. The elongated screen just doesn't do it for me. Crucify me all you want but I want a bigger screen.

*sigh*......

It IS a bigger screen with a different aspect ratio (hence the "longer" look and feel)......

Guarantee, if you actually used it, you'd come to like it. It seemed awkward for a while because I wasn't used to it - now the 4S seems awkwardly squat.
 
The glass back was a horribly expensive design flaw. It was expensive to use the glass...and it was expensive for the consumer when the glass would break despite being in a case. My aluminum 5 looks much better after 10ish months than my 4s did after 3 months.

but, but the phone looks so sexy with all that glass :(
 
I assume it's a forgone conclusion iOS 7 will be on these new iPhones. There is a lot of work left to do on the OS though. Hard to believe that the new iPhones with iOS 7 will likely be in people's hands in less than two and a half months.
 
Coming from an iPhone 4, I can't wait to get my hands on one of these! :D :D

Yup. Some thoughts here. I just upgraded my wife's iPhone 4 s to the iPhone 5; she dropped her old 4 s one too many times and it finally shattered. Ended up upgrading her phone to the 5.

I must say I really dig the 5-nice sleek phone. I also enoy the slightly longer screen. Can't wait to upgrade my 4. I can't imagine how iOS 7 would run on the iPhone 4-pretty pokey I would assume.
 
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All this clamoring for radically new designs every year or so, rarely leads to worthwhile real improvements; too much $$ and energy are going into making it different. Money that could have been spent fine tuning and perfecting existing designs, and/or updating the OS with useful features.

Give me regular, well thought-out, incremental updates anytime, over radically-new designs, that never have a chance to be fine-tuned to near perfection, because 6 mos later the next greatest, latest design is out.
 
*sigh*......

It IS a bigger screen with a different aspect ratio (hence the "longer" look and feel)......

Guarantee, if you actually used it, you'd come to like it. It seemed awkward for a while because I wasn't used to it - now the 4S seems awkwardly squat.

*sigh*....
I wish people would just understand that maybe a wider screen isn't such a bad idea. Posting this from my iPhone 5, which I love. I had hoped for a proportionally larger screen as well, and when Apple introduced the elongated iPhone 5 I didn't much like the idea of it until owning one.

I've fallen in love with it, and while I really like the petite nature of the device so much that I think it's a selling point I'm also still craving that slightly wider screen.

Just had to throw that in here. "Sigh you just don't know" when he's very clearly stated that he respects other's opinions is just insulting.
 
It's pretty much the same phone as the current 5, with a different camera and some other gimmick feature.

youre responding to a rumor. there are no specs on whatever the next iphone may be.

This strategy of releasing a re-hash phone every other year will do nothing to boost sales and stop the marketshare bleeding.

youre high. ive owned every "tick" and "tock" iphone models, the the S-version was a substantial upgrade in each case -- new innards, even tho the outside looked the same. that being said. nobody at apple expects normal people to upgrade annually. the two-year cycle is much more common place, and what non-techies do. let me repeat that: only phone nerds upgrade annually. to normal people, whatever-the-latest-is is all they want or need.

also, the marketshare numbers have been showing more growth on ios to android's lessening growth. nevermind that iOS phones are from only one device maker out of dozens/hundreds in the android bucket. durr

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Embrace, the fanboys will be all over you. I said something along those lines in the other thread and I had two of them on my throat... Heaven forbid Apple does anything wrong.

if you posted the same nonsense as iChrist, then no, it's just ignorance that garners that sort of attention.
 
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*sigh*....
I wish people would just understand that maybe a wider screen isn't such a bad idea. Posting this from my iPhone 5, which I love. I had hoped for a proportionally larger screen as well, and when Apple introduced the elongated iPhone 5 I didn't much like the idea of it until owning one.

I've fallen in love with it, and while I really like the petite nature of the device so much that I think it's a selling point I'm also still craving that slightly wider screen.

Just had to throw that in here. "Sigh you just don't know" when he's very clearly stated that he respects other's opinions is just insulting.

Uhh ok? I own an HTC One - not sure where I said I don't want/like wider screens.

I just get annoyed when I see the "ewww its longer but not wider, I wish Apple had made it wider" as if people don't actually understand the change. Apple didn't just say, "let's make the iPhone arbitrarily longer" and become the first to do so - they decided to take the iPhone to the same aspect ratio as EVERY OTHER smartphone on the planet and at the same time increased the screen size from 3.5" to 4". If you ever seen a 4" Moto Droid (I know, been forever since Android's were that small), you'd know this isn't some Apple Frankenstein device.

/rant over.

Seriously, having used my HTC One, I'm actually in the "larger iPhone" camp - I just wish people weren't so ignorant. Comments like "I hope Apple makes it wider this time" don't help.....
 
The release of the iPhone 4 re-hashed 4S did boost iPhone sales quite a bit, but did not stop the marketshare bleeding of iPhone competitors RIM and Nokia. Not too much different about the rumored 5S re-hash, so I would not be surprised to see history repeat.

the iphone 4s wasnt a rehash by any means -- it was a completely new set of hardware in the 4's body. go back and check...the CPU, GPU, RAM, antennae system, data speeds, camera, etc. all new.

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yet you cared enough to click the link, read the story, and write a response. hmm.
 
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