iPhone 5s Shipping Estimates Slip to October

[iChrist]

Literally just add a larger screen to the 5S and it would be perfect (along with bigger battery of course). I couldn't think of a better phone... *drools*

Hopefully with the same pixel density, not just a bigger lower res screen.

 

[cuda12]

Apple usually sells 10 million iPhones in a month.

Selling that many in 3 days is a little crazy.

Maybe they should have started manufacturing them even earlier to meet demand over the launch weekend. But I guess they figure that people will buy the iPhone eventually... so why run the factories on extreme overtime just for one weekend?

On a side note... I think it's funny how people are questioning whether the iPhone sells out during the launch weekend.

Apple will make more iPhones anyway... A LOT more.

Launch weekend sales will make a nice headline on Monday... but 50 million next quarter is even nicer

Selling 10 million iPhones in three days would be crazy, which is why it would make this short supply more understandable. But if Apple sells, say, 5-6 million 5S's these three days (which is likely considering 5 million iPhone 5 units were sold opening weekend last year), they can't say they were caught by surprise.

It seems that manufacturing these phones is difficult. We should remember, though, that Apple (at least in my experience) often under promises and over delivers; just because they say 7-10 days doesn't mean it will take that long.

 

[Four oF NINE]

Right. The problem with the 5/5S is that the design is so complex to manufacture, and now there's a new model and a new colour. Apple's QC is bound to be sky high too as they don't want a mountain of returns, either legitimate ones or from OTT 'perfection seekers'.

The 5C cuts out a big chunk of that so it's plentiful.

Yeah.. The 5S is so complex to manufacture.. The 5 is really like manufacturing one of these

 

[Zwopple]

As I've said before, this is just a repeat of Apple's terrible PowerBook mistake back in the days - UNDER-PRODUCE what is really wanted by customers, while flooding the market with 5Cs that no one cares about.

In his role as CEO, Cook has lost even what he was good at: an inventory person.

The iPhone 5C is wanted.. By a LOT of people. Search twitter for iPhone 5C and look at how many people are saying they "love their new iPhone 5C".

The fact is few consumers actually know what is inside the casing and few care beyond how it looks on the exterior and the operating system itself.

I'd reckon a consumer survey world wide more people would think the iPhone 5S is the old/cheap model and the iPhone 5C is the new one.

We may follow Apple closely but a lot of consumers do not.

 

[croooow]

Yeah it makes me understand why some people don't care for Apple fans.

If someone held a 5C in their hand and still honestly thought it looked and felt like cheap plastic then fine. But my guess is most people mocking it haven't actually seen one in person. I have and it's the most solid feeling plastic phone I've touched. Honestly it felt almost like ceramic, not plastic.

And those people forgot that the iPhone 3G and 3GS were plastic as well. They felt good but not nearly as solid as the 5c. I had a white iPhone 3G (my first iPhone) and the white 5c really brought me back to those days: white plastic back, black glass front.

They have really out done themselves (literally: comparing the 5c to the 3/3GS)

Oh, my 5s has shipped! It has not even been one full business day. They are early!

 

[Zwopple]

How does a major fortune 500 company revel in such poor planning? They put the public on notice about a new phone and then produce bare minimums of the phone. Very sloppy even for Apple which has been getting sloppier in all its business transactions.

The manufacturing world is not magic. Things take time, coordinate and effort to make. We should be grateful they are even able to launch and continue to produce them at a high enough rate to give time estimates on next orders.

People die in poverty all over the world every second and here we are bitching that we cannot get an iPhone 5S on launch day.

 

[clibinarius]

The 5C is definitely a failure.

The 5S fate has yet to be determined. You can't give a store 3 5S Golds and they sell out and call it a success....

I thought Cook was a Logistics guy--what is he now trying to be Jobs--the sales guy?

If these were made in the USA this wouldn't have happened.

I don't think the 5C has been a failure. It is supposed to replace a phone that isn't the main product, and I doubt that the 5S is $100 more to make, or even Apple's margins...if the 5C does better than last year's 4S, I think it is a success for Apple.

I mean, yeah, if you expected a 'low cost' iPhone it is certainly a disappointment.

 

[Technarchy]

Yeah it makes me understand why some people don't care for Apple fans.

If someone held a 5C in their hand and still honestly thought it looked and felt like cheap plastic then fine. But my guess is most people mocking it haven't actually seen one in person. I have and it's the most solid feeling plastic phone I've touched. Honestly it felt almost like ceramic, not plastic.

The 5C looks and feels nicer in the hand compared to my iPhone 5. It's nice to see a change and the extra options rather than just keeping the iPhone 5 and 5S together.

However I fully admit to liking the 5C more from a construction perspective.

 

[vmistery]

Well if you are in Suffolk UK, Bury St edmunds Vodafone have 8 16gb slate grey 5s and 3 32gb white 5s (just got back from there). Sadly no 64gb in any colour. Carpbone warehouse there only had 3 in total delivered total so far and were saying it was the worst launch ever and reckon they lost sales (as not enought stock). Mixed band all round

 

[rdlink]

Lol what are you blathering about

Having an opinion and making recommendations to friends does not mean someone has a closed mind lol

I really hope it just trolling

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Bahaha now you really are trolling

Interpreting my personal preferences as rigid statements of what everyone must do

Buy whatever you want. I simply wouldn't recommend the 5C.
If you wanna spend your pocket money on a shiny piece of plastic to show off to your pre school friends then be my guest

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Literally just add a larger screen to the 5S and it would be perfect (along with bigger battery of course). I couldn't think of a better phone... *drools*

Go back and read your earlier posts. You weren't "recommending" anything "to a friend." You were on a diatribe about how anyone who bought a 5C was a moron, and were spouting it off as if it were the gospel.

As I said, I have no desire to own a 5C. I ordered a 5S. But I am open minded enough to know that there are people out there who could buy a 5C and I wouldn't think them lacking in intelligence. You, judging from your previous posts apparently are not.

Crab walk all you want. The record of your posts doesn't lie.

 

[garylapointe]

16GB 5s Space Grey AT&T Shipped!!!
Order was complete 6 minutes after the hour (when store opened).

But MY 64GB 5s Space Grey that was order 3 minutes earlier did NOT ship yet (which had same shipping estimates).

Gary

 

[jinspin]

Oh, my 5s has shipped! It has not even been one full business day. They are early!

I surmise Apple is expediting the shipping this weekend so that they can report record sales. Apple only counts sales if it has shipped. So even though original delivery says -7-10 days Apples is trying to ship as many as they can to beat records and show they still got mojo and make Wall Street happy.

I also looked at twitter search "love iphone 5C" and it is hilarious seeing mostly girls and then every now and then hardcore gangsta looking fellas loving their 5C.

And I don't know about you but bright colors IOS 7 seems kind of girly. Makes me think I need to go watch some football.

Apple smart strategy to go with high end 5S and middle class 5C. These are people with money and there is a lot of them. Those still with 3G, 4, 4S wil prob upgrade to 5S or 5C so that is sizable market. The 5C will be even bigger leap for them and will make them even more amazed. And 5C is cheaper and more colorful so they make great gift to give to their kids or as great gifts to their girlfriends.

Also since Iphone 5C is cheaper to make and is same components as last year's 5 - their profit margins will be crazy good.

Cook is smarter than analysts who want Apple to go after junk market who have very little money. Like crazy analysts who still like Amazon even though AMZN has made ZERO or LOST money after many years in business with stock NEGATIVE PE or PE of 250+. Compare that to Apple with PE of 10 or 11 and is one of most profitable companies in world.

If you give me billions I can promise you I can sell everything at or below cost and will make no or lose money every year just like AMZN.

 

[euclidjr]

The channel is just enormous now and it will takes months to fill it. I think the error was in launching for 9 countries on the same day. I don't know how many carriers or models you are looking at in those countries, but here in the U.S. you are looking at a four-carrier channel with thousands of brick and mortar stores plus online sales of at least 36 variations of the 5S in the matrix. A U.S.-only launch would have been nice and eased supplies, but I think international is too important now (China in particular) to expect it. Dropping the 5C/5S overlap might have helped too - sell the 5S in only 32/64.

 

[Truffy]

Really? What a shock!

 

[bigandtasty]

Lucky you! (I guess you wanted slate grey?)

I was lucky enough to get the exact iPhone I wanted on launch too (thankfully the queues aren't as long here in Australia)

The new gold colour is so shmexy

Haven't heard that term before.
Does shmexy mean feminine? Totally agree w/you

 

[calaverasgrande]

tell me about it. First I couldnt order because neither Apple nor Verizon likes my billing address.
Then by the time I changed the address to my workplace , I get "...October".

I would have gone to the Apple store on my lunch break, but being that it's in downtown SF it is always mobbed. Nevermind on launch day!

 

[garylapointe]

With Gazelle generally paying $200+ for 2 year old iPhones at the time of release, if you update every 2 years, it's not costing you anything extra (except the first year). For the $200 phone vs. the $100 phone it's same price for activation and AppleCare+ (and replacement if you use the AppleCare+).

You can do better by just popping the old phone up on eBay.

Thanks for agreeing with my concept of selling back every 2 years, sort of (although you felt the need to suggest a better way with nothing specific in pricing).

I was mentioning a consistent and guaranteed pricing* for people to upgrade every 2 years, I've been paying attention to numbers at Gazelle and not fluctuations at eBay so I won't quote some unknown number by saying "more at eBay". Many people who have never sold on eBay don't want to do that (commissions, paypal, shipping, etc.), obviously if someone will give them more they should go that rate. The buyback price for 64GB models was awful this year, so I'll be going the eBay route.

Gary

*To be clear when Gazelle makes an offer, they guarantee that offer for a certain length of time (usually a month, sometimes longer), I'm not promising it'll be $200 next year!

 

[calaverasgrande]

16GB 5s Space Grey AT&T Shipped!!!
Order was complete 6 minutes after the hour (when store opened).

But MY 64GB 5s Space Grey that was order 3 minutes earlier did NOT ship yet (which had same shipping estimates).

Gary

that is weird, I almost went with a 64gb space gray because Apple and Verizon had shorter shipping estimate on those. then I realized I would be paying $150 extra just to get my phone a bit earlier. I would never crack that extra 32gb. Not with an iPad mini riding along.

 

[TimCook]

Go back and read your earlier posts. You weren't "recommending" anything "to a friend." You were on a diatribe about how anyone who bought a 5C was a moron, and were spouting it off as if it were the gospel.

As I said, I have no desire to own a 5C. I ordered a 5S. But I am open minded enough to know that there are people out there who could buy a 5C and I wouldn't think them lacking in intelligence. You, judging from your previous posts apparently are not.

Crab walk all you want. The record of your posts doesn't lie.

Lol are things ok at home? Seriously you are way too keen to vent steam. It's actually pretty funny.

If you think everyone who has an opinion is stating like the gospel well you can do that. It's a free country and you can be as ignorant as you like

Heheh you're just too funny

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Haven't heard that term before.
Does shmexy mean feminine? Totally agree w/you

Not actually sure if it has an exact meaning. I just know it as a fun slang word that basically means sexy
Love the look of all the new iPhones.

 

[Klae17]

What I mean is that if you insist on getting hardware that's a year old you may as well save as much money as you can - i.e. the iPhone 5 is cheaper than the 5C
Example: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/64Gb-Bla...t=AU_Mobile_Phones&hash=item3385bc5320&_uhb=1
That's $650AU for the 5 with 64GB, instead of $739AU for the 5C with 16GB - and that's just the first example I could find!

SO YES I WOULD RECOMMEND THE 5, SERIOUSLY

No need to deliberately misinterpret my words to try and take a cheap jibe lol

Why would you do that? They would have to buy a warranty for it such as apple care which would bring the cost up anyways.

 

[Goodeye]

You can still get a 5c within 24 hours though.

...Anyone?

Anyone? ...don't everybody purchase at once. :/

Heck, I walked into the Chandler Fashion Center Mall Apple Store (AZ) yesterday and was in and out in 10 mins with a new 32GB Green iPhone 5C. I like it for me I wanted the polycarbanate back (after using Windows Phone for the last year on a Lumia) the 5S looks great, but I figured next year I will get those main features in a likely new hardware design.

To each their own.

Yeah it makes me understand why some people don't care for Apple fans.

If someone held a 5C in their hand and still honestly thought it looked and felt like cheap plastic then fine. But my guess is most people mocking it haven't actually seen one in person. I have and it's the most solid feeling plastic phone I've touched. Honestly it felt almost like ceramic, not plastic.

I held both. They both are solid phones. However, there is something with the 5C that is much different. Great but different, like you said almost ceramic

 

[darcspyd3r]

Facepalm.

A) Apple has once before tried a gold product and it didn't do well, so they were being cautious this time around

B) There was an issue with producing the fingerprint sensor, so they made less 5s than originally estimate. PLus, it's not like they are making a few thousand phones, we are talking about millions of phones.

C) You would know about A + B if you had bothered to read Macrumors this past week. Instead of ignorantly complaining.

Agreed.

If I'm Cookie, I'd say let's make the majority of the new iPhone 5s in the color that sells the best. The white color I'm sure is popular, but has never been as popular than black (or Space Gray in this case). Gold is obviously new and judging by the whining about it being tacky and the YouTube vids mocking it, Cookie must have been like, "Let's not make as many gold ones y'all."

Apple's not dumb. They want to churn these out fast as possible. For every customer that wants an iPhone and doesn't get it, they are looking at a potential loss to a competitor. Oh and Apple is still going to be making a nice profit off of the 5s too. Look at the cost of materials for the 4, 4s, and 5 at launch. It's definitely not $649.00. Remember, the price to the customer is only $199 for a base model. How much are the carriers paying to Apple for the subsidy agreements? They are making hand over foot. Don't fool yourself with this artificial supply shortage nonsense.

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I ordered within 10 minutes of launch at apple.com and my silver 32gb att says preparing for shipment. But the shipment is from china! I also ordered a gold 32gb AT&T and it is still processing. I will be happy if I get the silver this week sometime.

Yeah, maybe they are being flown out according to memory configurations. My 16gb Space Gray already shipped, but they are still preparing my 32gb.

 

[Klae17]

How does a major fortune 500 company revel in such poor planning? They put the public on notice about a new phone and then produce bare minimums of the phone. Very sloppy even for Apple which has been getting sloppier in all its business transactions.

How do you know they produced bare minimums? Are you at the factory right now? Get back to work!

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But the 4 and 4s are much more appealing than the 5c. I would buy a 5 any day over the 5c. The 5c might be cheaper to make but if it's not selling they can't make profit out of it.

Your opinion isn't everyone's opinion, buddy.

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As I've said before, this is just a repeat of Apple's terrible PowerBook mistake back in the days - UNDER-PRODUCE what is really wanted by customers, while flooding the market with 5Cs that no one cares about.

In his role as CEO, Cook has lost even what he was good at: an inventory person.

You seriously think they underproduced and risked losing customers? I'm seriously asking. You clearly have a better grasp on supply chain and manufacturing. I went to school for it, but please explain how apple should ramp up for a fee million more iPhones. Please.

 

[V.K.]

thanks to all who responded.

Got mine yesterday after lunch. Walked into a small just recently opened ATT store and got it.

Touch ID does really work. Simple and amazing.
Never failed.
I registered four of my fingers (thumb and index on both hands) and one of my wife's ( just in case).
You simply place a finger on a home button for about a second and it unlocks the phone.
No other fingers or anyone of my family members or friends I asked to could unlock it.
I can't imagine typing those pins again.
Apple nailed this one.

one second? that's much longer than it looks on a couple of youtube videos I've seen. does this one second include the time it takes to wake up the phone? If not I would consider this be be quite laggy.

Works great. No lag, and I like that you can add multiple finger prints.

No lag at all. I honestly never expected to be this fast. I'd say it takes 30 to 40ms to unlock your phone more or less and much much faster (almost instant I estimate 5 to 15ms) when you wake up the phone by pressing and releasing the home button and leave your finger on the sensor at once. I'm very impressed.

30-40ms is much faster than 1 second the other person mentioned. I like that much better.

Its amazing. It just works!!! as the saying goes. I use fingerprint scanners at work to get into secure areas and they are junk compared to what Apple put in their phone.

 

[marty11]

Agreed. The 5C is about securing the mid-range market.

Wrong. The 5c exists solely to make the boring 5s seem more exquisite. If they were to sell the 5 for $99 and the 5s for $199 they would have egg on their face.

They can't innovate, so they pull illusions to make their flagship product look important.