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Cutting the luminium body of iphone 5s takes time, machine assembly takes time. Even they have hundres of cutting and assembly machine, not to mention the touch id sensor supply problems reported not long ago, you can imagine how much it takes to produce those milions of iphone.

And before you complain about low stock in the USA, think about the rest of the world. For Asia, South America and 90% of Europe, we dont have even a release date, and thats about one bilion potential customers waiting for the americans can get it on day one. So maybe, here in Spain, ill be able to buy iPhone 5S some 9 months before the release of iPhone 6. If you think the situation of the stock is bad for you dear americans, think again....

Yeah, but we're 'Merikuh!!

Seriously, very good way to put perspective on it. Us Americans tend to get a little spoiled...

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Its amazing. It just works!!! as the saying goes. I use fingerprint scanners at work to get into secure areas and they are junk compared to what Apple put in their phone.

A friend of mine stood in line at the SF flagship store and got his yesterday. We talked. He said the fingerprint sensor works great. But he was even more impressed by the camera.

He also said that operations that didn't seem slow on his iPhone 5 before are now so much quicker on his 5S.
 
Ordered 64 and 32 black. Stated delivery was Oct 20-30. On Friday night this was revised to Oct 1-10. But both shipped yesterday for Monday pm delivery. Hope you have similar luck!
 
You can still get a 5c within 24 hours though. ;)

...Anyone?

Anyone? ...don't everybody purchase at once. :/
 
It shocks me that people think Apple creates these supply constraints on purpose. I have absolutely no idea how much effort it is to setup a factory to produce these phones but I'm betting given the finesse and quality of the builds that it's no small task.

Every year they re-design the internals and even in the S years they are also redesigning enough of the exterior to warrant having to redo the entire manufacturing line.

They don't just have to produce the casing and glue it all together themselves they have to wait for other companies to supply MILLIONS of high tech newly designed chips to go into them. All of those suppliers must also update their production lines to produce them.

The iPhone 5C is in high supply likely because the components inside are not new and can be supplied in large quantities easily from existing suppliers.
 
If you're upgrading every two years, the face that it's obsolete sooner really won't matter as much.

With Gazelle generally paying $200+ for 2 year old iPhones at the time of release, if you update every 2 years, it's not costing you anything extra (except the first year). For the $200 phone vs. the $100 phone it's same price for activation and AppleCare+ (and replacement if you use the AppleCare+).

Gary

You can do better by just popping the old phone up on eBay. In my case, I bought a plain Jane iPhone 5 two weeks ago for under $80. It was upgrade time and I retired a Galaxy Nexus. Sold Nexus on eBay in less than an hour for around $150. So I actually came out ahead upgrading to an iPhone 5. If that had been a 4 or 4S, I bet I would have easily gotten more.
 
It shocks me that people think Apple creates these supply constraints on purpose. I have absolutely no idea how much effort it is to setup a factory to produce these phones but I'm betting given the finesse and quality of the builds that it's no small task.

Every year they re-design the internals and even in the S years they are also redesigning enough of the exterior to warrant having to redo the entire manufacturing line.

They don't just have to produce the casing and glue it all together themselves they have to wait for other companies to supply MILLIONS of high tech newly designed chips to go into them. All of those suppliers must also update their production lines to produce them.

Like every other manufacturer in the consumer electronics industry?
 
Yeah but the if Apple sells the 5 for $100 less this year, it wouldn't be made of plastic now, would it?

Everybody feels cheated with garish color and unapologetic plastic on 5C, that's the point.
So you speak on behalf of everybody now?
 
They must have anticipated this, so why didn't they make more for launch day? We've known about these phones for months so they had nothing to hide. I wonder how many disappointed people will walk away and just buy something else because they can't be bothered to wait.
 
I ordered within 10 minutes of launch at apple.com and my silver 32gb att says preparing for shipment. But the shipment is from china! I also ordered a gold 32gb AT&T and it is still processing. I will be happy if I get the silver this week sometime.
 
Wow, you really are clueless about my meaning, aren't you? Look, I don't want a 5C, because that's not my taste. But having an open mind about what others might like is a better way to go through life than "knowing" what everyone else should do...

Lol what are you blathering about

Having an opinion and making recommendations to friends does not mean someone has a closed mind lol

I really hope it just trolling

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Why does that matter? If someone likes the color and feel of the phone more than the 5S, and wants the phone, does it really matter that it costs only $100 less? I think the basic logic behind your premise is flawed.

If someone is only bargain shopping, there is a case to be made for buying either the 5C or the 5S, depending on your needs for storage, whether that $100 is truly a big deal to you, whether you like/need the extra tech in the 5S, and/or several other factors.

But if someone truly likes the 5C better, then the $100 price difference is just gravy.

Bahaha now you really are trolling

Interpreting my personal preferences as rigid statements of what everyone must do

Buy whatever you want. I simply wouldn't recommend the 5C.
If you wanna spend your pocket money on a shiny piece of plastic to show off to your pre school friends then be my guest

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Great, whatever.

Is there any new on the iPhone 6 yet? That will hopefully be more interesting.


:)

Literally just add a larger screen to the 5S and it would be perfect (along with bigger battery of course). I couldn't think of a better phone... *drools*
 
I went to the Lincoln park apple store in Chicago and there was an hour wait, but they still had phones. The only thing was that they didn't have any tmobile phones. So I literally walked across the street to tmobile and they had one 16gb space grey left. I was about to buy it when someone else came in wanting one. The salesman told me that they had someone coming in about 5-10 minutes with a couple of 32gb phones and basically gave the guy the choice of 16-32. I didn't care either way. I ended up getting a 32gb space grey a day after launch and at 5pm. I had also called around earlier and it seems that space grey was actually widely available in Chicago, you just had to know where to look :)
 
Ordered from Apple at 1201 am, 32g Silver, shipped 9/22 from China via UPS for delivery end of day 9/25. 64g Gray ordered one minute later hasn't updated as shipped yet.
 
For all the "When will Apple learn? I got screwed again! The 5c is a flop because their easier to get..." Crowd

Your working with imperfect information. You don't know how many iPhones S or C Apple made. You don't know if it's greater or less than past launches. For the S, you don't know the numbers by color or specs produced.

If Apple had made enough so Everyone could get one on launch day either in person or shipped, you would have viewed it as a flop.

Part of the mystique of the iPhone, which you don't hear about with the Droid or Windows phones is short/constrained supplies. Does Apple do it intentionally? Probably, somewhat. As was mentioned earlier, that's marketing 101. But if half of the people who ordered the newest iPhone perpetually have to wait an unacceptable amount of time, they WILL eventually leave the iPhone biosphere and find a different phone, which would be bad for business.

Apple has no way of knowing exactly how many phones to produce or of what color/specs, they can make an educated guess, but they'll always be wrong.

And finally, shouldn't we be surprised that it is selling out across the globe based on all the hate it received on this site and elsewhere in the media? How much did Apple stock drop after the release? 5%? More? How much has it bounced back based on these orders?

Coachingguy.
 
This new elitist and snobbery schism forming between 5C owners and 5S owners is pathetic.
 
supplies

How does a major fortune 500 company revel in such poor planning? They put the public on notice about a new phone and then produce bare minimums of the phone. Very sloppy even for Apple which has been getting sloppier in all its business transactions.:mad:
 
It may not sell as many as the 5s opening week, but we have many weeks left before next fall. I remember reading reports that Apple was still selling lots of 4 and 4S models this past year while the 5 was available. Not everyone needs the premium model.

But the 4 and 4s are much more appealing than the 5c. I would buy a 5 any day over the 5c. The 5c might be cheaper to make but if it's not selling they can't make profit out of it.
 
It shocks me that people think Apple creates these supply constraints on purpose. I have absolutely no idea how much effort it is to setup a factory to produce these phones but I'm betting given the finesse and quality of the builds that it's no small task.

Right. The problem with the 5/5S is that the design is so complex to manufacture, and now there's a new model and a new colour. Apple's QC is bound to be sky high too as they don't want a mountain of returns, either legitimate ones or from OTT 'perfection seekers'.

The 5C cuts out a big chunk of that so it's plentiful.
 
Call me crazy but I like the design of 5C better and it feels more comfortable on the hand. I like rounded corner desig much more. And yes, some people prefer other colours then just B&W. I would change my iPhone 5 for a 5C anytime.

So do i.
 
This new elitist and snobbery schism forming between 5C owners and 5S owners is pathetic.

Yeah it makes me understand why some people don't care for Apple fans.

If someone held a 5C in their hand and still honestly thought it looked and felt like cheap plastic then fine. But my guess is most people mocking it haven't actually seen one in person. I have and it's the most solid feeling plastic phone I've touched. Honestly it felt almost like ceramic, not plastic.
 
I am not sure why anyone is calling the 5C a flop. I really doubt Apple expected huge demand for it. It replaced the year old 5. It was IMHO a smart thing to do, it refreshed the year old product and will bring some who did not want black or just white.

Apple, I am sure never expected sales like they would want with the "S" version.

Did anyone really look carefully at iPhone 4 sales the launch weekend of the 4S??

I think the key comparison might be to compare 5C sales to iPhone 4 sales when the 4S launched.

Just my opinion.
Disagree. The 5C is a 'new' model with a lot put into marketing whereas the 4 was not.
 
What annoys me is that the Apple website just states to walk in to a store on a first come first served basis but the stores don't have stock, won't tell you when they will get stock in and, unlike previous years, you cannot reserve online the night before.

I went to two stores on launch day and both had sold out before opening. If Apple had said that supplies were extremely limited then I would've stayed in bed for a little while longer and ordered online. I have now ordered online but it simply states October which is rather vague. It wouldn't be such an issue but I sold my iPhone 5 already so I'm phone-less! (My own fault but I wanted to get the best price and every year I have managed to get a handset on launch day).
 
This is probably the worst it has ever been for a new iPhone release. I can't find them anywhere. Never mind the gold version.

As I've said before, this is just a repeat of Apple's terrible PowerBook mistake back in the days - UNDER-PRODUCE what is really wanted by customers, while flooding the market with 5Cs that no one cares about.

In his role as CEO, Cook has lost even what he was good at: an inventory person.
 
Like every other manufacturer in the consumer electronics industry?

Who? Do enlighten me as to who is creating custom components across the board yearly and is meeting more than 5-10million units for launch day sales?

Most your components in consumer electronics are also shared with loads of other devices thus more manufacturers are or already have production lines ready to make them.
 
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