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This is one big conspiracy to collect a more accurate and encompassing fingerprint database for the FBI. Social profiling in the works here. I am not one bit excited about this feature. Give us more battery life, give us more WiFi range, but THIS??? This is just crazy. And you know they will be collecting those fingerprint scans and turning them over to the government...Apple already unlocks iPhones for the FBI on their command. BEWARE!

Ugh, FYI they already have yours. :)
 
Can anybody explain why they feel the absolute need to have a fingerprint scanner on their phone ? I love technology just as much as anyone but this is too much for me. Unless you are privy to some really top secret info a pass code is just fine.
 
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Ed Snowden actually collects data for Samsung when he was Moonlighting.

Samsung saw the Sensor on the 5S, and told him to create a "Personal Data Collection" distraction.

The NSA was never the target. Apple was. :apple:

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Can anybody explain why they feels the absolute need to have a fingerprint scanner on their phone ?

You're blind and Brail does not do it on a Glass Surface? ;)
 
Can anybody explain why they feels the absolute need to have a fingerprint scanner on their phone ?

Perhaps not an "absolute need"... But quite a few people need to secure their phones because of sensitive data stored on them (emails, documents, photos,etc). Currently we use pass codes to ensure that unauthorized users can't gain access to that data. Fingerprint sensors would be faster and potentially more convenient for unlocking the phone. Simple, really...
 
Kuo

Kuo has no basis for this except speculation. It's a cool idea but convect home buttons with sapphire does not sound plausible. The button would scratch other things and it would ruin the surface of the device. It is a bad idea.
 
Just a thought

The home button is the hub of every device, going back to the scroll wheel on the iPod. I love new features, but to change the home button to convex, only for a fingerprint sensor used before you turn the device on, is a big risk that changes the user experience forever.

It's just a rumor, but it's a big change.
 
I can see how this could be helpful, but...

...What if you're walking along, using your iPhone 5S, and a thug comes up behind you, and knocks you out? Then, he simply places your thumb against the home button, and TADA, he has access to your phone.
 
I have no desire to create a digital record of my fingerprints anywhere, least of all a device that is connected to the internet constantly and small enough to get stolen easily. Here's hoping Apple restricts apps from accessing this particular piece of hardware, and that Apple also gives us the option to turn this "feature" off. I just want a dumb button.

There's also the matter that this will do almost nothing for security. Fingerprint scanners have been proven time and time again to be easily fooled.

Also convex? WTF? That makes so little sense it's hardly worth rebutting.
 
Perhaps a physical clicking home button is out and the fingerprint scanner registers the touch much like a touchscreen just shaped so you can find it?
 
I don't get that perception that the iPhone is now failing. I hear that increasingly often.

It seems to only be based on worldwide marketshare, and due to the fact that emerging countries (which are extremely populated) are now buying cheapo prepaid <$200 unsubsidized Android phones instead of feature phones since feature phones are just disappearing.

The iPhone is failing because of a market segment it never competed with in the first place? That doesn't make sense. The iPhone is stronger than ever compared to other high-end phones. Even when the iPhone 5 is pretty much at the end of its cycle, iOS is the only platform gaining market share in the US, while Android has pretty much peaked.

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I agree. This perception is only perpetuated by people who play the market game and have an interest in how customer confidence affects stock prices. Those who have something to gain by screaming the sky is falling will in fact do so whether it is or not.
 
It would be the same (a 4" and 5" screen). The only way it would be easier would be if the screen resolution was different on the 5" screen. And 'easier' is different for different people; lower res. but bigger elements on screen is better for some, higher res. but smaller elements on screen is better for others.

An iPhone 4/4S and a 5 have different screen sizes but their on-screen elements are the same size. To put it another way, if you placed a printed book at a comfortable reading distance, and then covered up a portion of the page (retaining the distance), it wouldn't be any harder to read the uncovered section…

I stand corrected. Excellent explanation, thank you.:)
 
Can anybody explain why they feel the absolute need to have a fingerprint scanner on their phone ? I love technology just as much as anyone but this is too much for me. Unless you are privy to some really top secret info a pass code is just fine.


No, a passcode is not just fine.

I use an extended passcode (need to for VPN access to work). I use my phone a lot. Having to type in half a dozen or so characters, followed by an 'ok' button, every single time is a freakin' PAIN IN THE BOOTIE.

I have been waiting a loooong time for a fingerprint scanner so I can just swipe and have access.

Yes, yes, yes, and yes please.

(I suspect you'll feel the same when you can just swipe and go even with a simple 4 button press code)

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I have no desire to create a digital record of my fingerprints anywhere, least of all a device that is connected to the internet constantly and small enough to get stolen easily. Here's hoping Apple restricts apps from accessing this particular piece of hardware, and that Apple also gives us the option to turn this "feature" off. I just want a dumb button.

Apple restricts apps from accessing just about every bit of data on the phone without your explicit permission. Why would this be any different? Of course it'll be locked away.
 
Best home button ever.
 

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The phone should be able to handle the software that was sent to it. Sorry I can't afford a new phone every year.

my iphone 4s handles iOS 7 very well. It will be 2 years old when officially released. Thats pretty go bearing in mind the pace of technology nowadays.

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Can anybody explain why they feel the absolute need to have a fingerprint scanner on their phone ? I love technology just as much as anyone but this is too much for me. Unless you are privy to some really top secret info a pass code is just fine.

Most of the stuff in a phone is not absolutely necessary. I use an app as alarm clock that changes the colour as it gets closer to the wake up time. Is that necessary? No, but beyond water, flour and shelter, nothing is. But its nice to see something exciting from time to time.

Jokes apart, at least for me it would be a good add on.

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I have no desire to create a digital record of my fingerprints anywhere, least of all a device that is connected to the internet constantly and small enough to get stolen easily. Here's hoping Apple restricts apps from accessing this particular piece of hardware, and that Apple also gives us the option to turn this "feature" off. I just want a dumb button.

There's also the matter that this will do almost nothing for security. Fingerprint scanners have been proven time and time again to be easily fooled.

Also convex? WTF? That makes so little sense it's hardly worth rebutting.

a Hacker could probably do a lot more knowing your password than your fingerprint...

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The home button is the hub of every device, going back to the scroll wheel on the iPod. I love new features, but to change the home button to convex, only for a fingerprint sensor used before you turn the device on, is a big risk that changes the user experience forever.

It's just a rumor, but it's a big change.

In finance, convexity is not an issue. The problem is the degree of convexity. I honestly don't see the big deal in the home button popping out a tiny bit. Probably my life won't be affected :)
 
thank god they've decided to include the fingerprint scanner in the iphone 5s, i had lost interest after i read that they're having issues manufacturing enough scanners and "no clues of fingerprint scanner anywhere". hello new iphone!
 
WHAT? There is so much room for improvement for the battery. I'd love a 24 hour battery! And let's get a quad core processor! ENOUGH of this "it's good enough" attitude, that's why the iPhone is failing.

Failing what? Not beeing an cash cow?
You really don´t understand Apple products. But there are these other guys for you.
 
or for it to fold your laundry or something?
God, yes. If you can pull that off...
It's every FBI agents wet dream to plant on bug on your person. With the magical & revolutionary Apple iPhone 5S, they should pay people to voluntarily carry one. It's quite funny to read all the comments from those that are so naive they are actually excited to be fingerprinted. Wonders never cease.
Just burn yours off, already.
 
Can anybody explain why they feel the absolute need to have a fingerprint scanner on their phone ? I love technology just as much as anyone but this is too much for me. Unless you are privy to some really top secret info a pass code is just fine.


I see a day when I can leave my home with only my iPhone. A fingerprint sensor would allow access to "top secret" info like a signal that will open and start my car, open and lock my home, hold a digital ATM and credit card, and some day I'm sure the government will allow for a digital driver's license/ID card. I already have my car insurance on my phone. The possibilities are limitless, and while there are some roadblocks, a fingerprint is one step toward this being a reality.
 
Issues with Biometric Security

The only major problem I (and some security experts) see is that a fingerprint replacing a password would not have the capability of being revoked whenever the "data" of the fingerprint is compromised. How would you be able to change your fingerprint?

Yeah, you could go to the point and argue that you can use one of your other 9 digits, however it does come to a point that you will have to rely on a different method of authentication.

Disclaimer: I have not gathered the actual statistics of how likely it would be to get all 10 digits compromised within a reasonable amount of time.

That being said, however the security of the device itself would be tremendously improved having that finger print scanner. I can't tell you the number of times I have known people who will put the most simplest of 4 digit codes into their phones. :rolleyes:
 
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