iPhone 5s Top-Selling Smartphone at All U.S. Carriers, iPhone 5c Takes Third

[Reason077]

Most people in the states are on contracts, hence the "reduced" price. I didn't pay $849 (or what ever it is) for my 32gb 5S, I paid $299.

You are paying $849 for it - and then some!

Because your monthly bill is about 5x higher than what people are paying for equivalent, or better, service (without subsidized handsets) in other countries.

 

[tongxinshe]

Not necessarily. In Russia, where people are poor, everything is more expansive than in the first world countries, and phones are never subsidized, in November iPhone secured 9% of the market, Samsung 21%, and the best selling phone was Fly, provided IQ238 Jazz and IQ4404 Spark are considered one model that captured 12% (yes, we collect data like that). If you insist they are 2 different models, iPhone is the best seller.

Being the best seller gives it only 9%, but it captures more than 50% among high end smartphones. Thus I cannot say iPhone lags in sales, more likely "smartphone" in statistics is too broad a category now.

With the smartphone technology advancing, soon the whole "high end smartphone" category will hold only 5% market share.

If Apple doesn't want its iOS platform to drop into that "no one cares" zone (for platforms holding <5% market share) and then to distinction, it needs to sell some mid to low end smartphones. Sure all companies want bigger profits, but selling stuff with small profit is still better than selling almost nothing.

 

[Digital Skunk]

Careful what you ask for.

When you prompt an Android fan to explain why Android is better than iOS, you are going to get responses that show how badly Android wants to be a desktop OS. Android can do all sorts of fun things that a desktop OS can do that iOS can't but in the end, it's a mobile OS so really, beyond the hardcore geek crowd, who cares?

As far as being a really good mobile OS, Android fails. I've used it a lot and it's a complete mess as a mobile OS. Using Android, to me, feels like running around in clothes that are one size too big. Sure, it gets the job done, but boy, is it a hassle and it just never feels quite right.

And none of that is ameliorated by the fact that you can easily access the file system or side-load apps or run task managers or whatever reasons are about to spill forth.

Funny, that's how I feel about iOS. Especially since I have to sit and close

each

and every

open

app

in that silly knockoff from Palm's WebOS, that carried with it the same flaw that WebOS had almost 7 years ago.

Every new survey or study I read says that iOS users still lead other platforms in terms of how much they use their devices to buy apps, buy products, browse the web, and pay for services.

Each. And every. Single. One.

These are the things developers care about.

And you're asking me to believe that the opposite is happening? That all of these articles are the end of an era, and things are turning around now? By all means, provide your own proof. Until then, I think you're crazy.

True, Android dominates in marketshare, and therefore ad revenue. iOS dominates in app revenue, and therefore shows that they serve two different markets.

I agree with you, I wish folk on the other side would stop trying to use marketshare as a "Android RULZ!" excuse.

Hardware spec-wise, the S4 may be better...but the overall picture is broader than that. Including user experience.

People need to stop brining up UX in. In the long wrong, it just ends up being a conversation about preference and opinions . . .which usually turns into an argument, then a ban or two.

Truth be told. Both platforms have serious issues they need to work out. While Google is actually addressing problems that the end users report back. Apple is still chugging along with issues that've existed since 2007.

 

[osofast240sx]

With the smartphone technology advancing, soon the whole "high end smartphone" category will hold only 5% market share.

If Apple doesn't want its iOS platform to drop into that "no one cares" zone (for platforms holding <5% market share) and then to distinction, it needs to sell some mid to low end smartphones. Sure all companies want bigger profits, but selling stuff with small profit is still better than selling almost nothing.

do you have any evidence to support any of your claims

 

[mdelvecchio]

Success for the 5c. It did its job.

for sure. 2nd or 3rd top-selling smartphone at US carrier retailers? thats great work. wheres HTC's latest & greatests in there? nokia? microsoft anything? etc...

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With the smartphone technology advancing, soon the whole "high end smartphone" category will hold only 5% market share.

If Apple doesn't want its iOS platform to drop into that "no one cares" zone (for platforms holding <5% market share) and then to distinction, it needs to sell some mid to low end smartphones. Sure all companies want bigger profits, but selling stuff with small profit is still better than selling almost nothing.

then please explain why Apple is the most profitable PC maker in the PC market? they eat the lion's share of profit, despite very small market share.

oops.

 

[tongxinshe]

You could turn it around and ask why Samsung's flagship phone is struggling to barely stay ahead of Apple's second tier phone. That seems a lot more relevant a question to me.

That "flagship" phone from Samsung has released for 9 months. A phone released less than 2 months ago, with half the price, sells less, comparing with a 9 month old top-tier priced phone. That's an obvious failure!!

So? Why do people always point this out?

Because that matters much more, since the US is at best only 10% of the global market.

 

[osofast240sx]

for sure. 2nd or 3rd top-selling smartphone at US carrier retailers? thats great work. wheres HTC's latest & greatests in there? nokia? microsoft anything? etc...

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then please explain why Apple is the most profitable PC maker in the PC market? they eat the lion's share of profit, despite very small market share.

oops.

Let's not forget the iPad almost drove Dell out of business

 

[Iconoclysm]

Wow, so the 5c can't even outsell the Galaxy S4? Failure.

Or rather, good product, wrong price.

Wow, what kind of success were you expecting from this thing? It's last year's hardware in a plastic shell - and it nearly outsold the S4 while also outselling every other phone on the market. If you ask me, it couldn't possibly be more successful.

 

[Rogifan]

That "flagship" phone from Samsung has released for 9 months. A phone released less than 2 months ago, with half the price, sells less, comparing with a 9 month old top-tier priced phone. That's an obvious failure!!

I don't see Moto X anywhere in the top 3. And it's cheaper than the 5C. Based on your logic clearly that phone is a failure.

 

[osofast240sx]

That "flagship" phone from Samsung has released for 9 months. A phone released less than 2 months ago, with half the price, sells less, comparing with a 9 month old top-tier priced phone. That's an obvious failure!!



Because that matters much more, since the US is at best only 10% of the global market.

13 month old tech in a two months old shiny new multicolored cases. Get it right!!

 

[Rogifan]

Because that matters much more, since the US is at best only 10% of the global market.

What's your source for this? How do you define market? How do you determine the number of existing and/or future smartphone users?

 

[tongxinshe]

I'm curious as to why you believe that a phone with technology from September 2012 should be selling better than one with tech from March of 2013.

Things improve, even within a half a year. I would expect the newer phone to be doing better. You don't?

5c is more than a Sep. 2012 phone, it has the Sep. 2013 baseband chip in it. When you factor that in, the time difference between 5c and S4 is much smaller than half a year. When you take into consideration that 5c's price is only half of S4's, this statistic illustrates very clearly that 5c is a big failure.

 

[paysdoufs]

We have one. Didn't have an iPhone before. So at least by one it has

OK. You got a point here

@Mod-team: Please throw out all the comments that pretend that iPhone X only costs N $ (where N = the subsidized price). It's an insult to the human brain to have to read those

 

[Rogifan]

13 month old tech in a two months old shiny new multicolored cases. Get it right!!

Is there something wrong with the iPhone 5 tech? I use mine every day with iOS 7 and my phone is fast and fluid with no issues. Should I be ashamed that I'm using 13 month old tech?

 

[tongxinshe]

Where is the sarcasm tag❓Seriously, it is amazing that the IPhone 5c is in third place. I guarantee this time last year, the iPhone 4S was not the third best selling phone.

You are right that 4S was not the 3rd Nov. last year, it was the 2nd.

 

[MH01]

Careful what you ask for.

When you prompt an Android fan to explain why Android is better than iOS, you are going to get responses that show how badly Android wants to be a desktop OS. Android can do all sorts of fun things that a desktop OS can do that iOS can't but in the end, it's a mobile OS so really, beyond the hardcore geek crowd, who cares?

As far as being a really good mobile OS, Android fails. I've used it a lot and it's a complete mess as a mobile OS. Using Android, to me, feels like running around in clothes that are one size too big. Sure, it gets the job done, but boy, is it a hassle and it just never feels quite right.

And none of that is ameliorated by the fact that you can easily access the file system or side-load apps or run task managers or whatever reasons are about to spill forth.

It was a hardware comparison between the s4 and 5c, the s4 is superior. Your off topic. Android v iOS is another discussion all together.

 

[osofast240sx]

5c is more than a Sep. 2012 phone, it has the Sep. 2013 baseband chip in it. When you factor that in, the time difference between 5c and S4 is much smaller than half a year. When you take into consideration that 5c's price is only half of S4's, this statistic illustrates very clearly that 5c is a big failure.

Half the price????? Not true

 

[Rogifan]

5c is more than a Sep. 2012 phone, it has the Sep. 2013 baseband chip in it. When you factor that in, the time difference between 5c and S4 is much smaller than half a year. When you take into consideration that 5c's price is only half of S4's, this statistic illustrates very clearly that 5c is a big failure.

The S4 is Samsung's flagship smartphone. The 5S is Apple's. Why are you comparing Samsung's flagship to Apple's mid tier offering? If you're going to compare the S4 to the 5C, why not compare it to the Moto X or Nexus 5? Neither of those is even in the top 3 here so they must be the biggest failure of all!

 

[MH01]

Since launch I have only seen a couple of 5c models in the wild. Be interesting to whom all these sales are going, most people I know paid extra for the superior 5s

 

[osofast240sx]

It was a hardware comparison between the s4 and 5c, the s4 is superior. Your off topic. Android v iOS is another discussion all together.

Yeah android is like putting a Ferrari engine into a Pinto,

 

[tongxinshe]

Somebody can't read the article...

That means that in most countries where the iPhone 5s has launched, it is "by far the top selling smartphone". Android's global 'sales lead' comes largely from countries where the iPhone isn't (yet) available for sale.

Somebody can't afford real logics.

The sentence you quote only indicates that no other single models outsold 5s, but when you combine all of the Android models together, they outsell iPhone (all models combined) very easily, in all countries, no matter 5s is available there for sale or not. Yes, I mean "in all countries", including the US.

 

[Iconoclysm]

Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Relevant comparison is number of iOS phones sold to number of Android phones sold.

Do remember that Macrumors is an AAPL pump-and-dump scheme.

Don't believe the hype.

How in the hell is that relevant? Then iPad and iPod Touch would need to be included...

Hell, I think they should only count Android devices that are on a somewhat current version of the OS and are actually used as smartphones - but then, that would be irrelevant and probably make you even more angry.

 

[Reason077]

Funny, that's how I feel about iOS. Especially since I have to sit and close

each

and every

open

app

in that silly knockoff from Palm's WebOS, that carried with it the same flaw that WebOS had almost 7 years ago.

What on earth are you talking about? Why would you do this?

If it's backgrounded apps using CPU that you're worried about, you can block that (either globally or per-app) in settings > general > background app refresh. But this isn't Android - most apps are well behaved and aren't going to drain your battery in 2 hours the moment you let your guard down.

 

[tongxinshe]

Success for the 5c. It did its job.

Wrong, 4S was 2nd place this time last year. 5c is a real failure to be not able to outsell a 9-month old phone, with double the price.

 

[Iconoclysm]

5c is more than a Sep. 2012 phone, it has the Sep. 2013 baseband chip in it. When you factor that in, the time difference between 5c and S4 is much smaller than half a year. When you take into consideration that 5c's price is only half of S4's, this statistic illustrates very clearly that 5c is a big failure.

Woah, what? S4 is a flagship phone. 5C would be better compared to the S3, since the next step up from the 5C is the 5S which is outselling them all. The fact that it's in the top 3, and nobody else is, is more than enough to call it a success. And on two of those carriers, it's number 2.

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Wrong, 4S was 2nd place this time last year. 5c is a real failure to be not able to outsell a 9-month old phone, with double the price.

Funny, the 5S was able to outsell that "9 month old phone"....does that mean it's a success? Can you admit that?