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With the smartphone technology advancing, soon the whole "high end smartphone" category will hold only 5% market share.

If Apple doesn't want its iOS platform to drop into that "no one cares" zone (for platforms holding <5% market share) and then to distinction, it needs to sell some mid to low end smartphones. Sure all companies want bigger profits, but selling stuff with small profit is still better than selling almost nothing.

So 175M phones is almost nothing?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-5...l-175-million-iphones-in-fiscal-2014-analyst/
 
there have been many reports 50% of 5C users were android converts

regardless, the 5C being the 3rd best selling smartphone ahead of all other androids or windows phones means the 5C is selling well

selling well, but obviously not well enough, since it lost the 2nd place to a 9-month old phone with double the price.
 
Is there something wrong with the iPhone 5 tech? I use mine every day with iOS 7 and my phone is fast and fluid with no issues. Should I be ashamed that I'm using 13 month old tech?
No that was my point that 13 month old Apple tech is better than androids current tech.
 
Somebody can't afford real logics.

The sentence you quote only indicates that no other single models outsold 5s, but when you combine all of the Android models together, they outsell iPhone (all models combined) very easily, in all countries, no matter 5s is available there for sale or not. Yes, I mean "in all countries", including the US.

Actually, combine them all and they don't outsell 5S "very easily" they simply outsell them by a very small number. Remember that we're talking old ass feature phone type phones too.

Oh, and let's not forget how many of these phones are just plain out pieces of crap - I'm sure you're all for selling those so long as they have your favorite OS installed right? Pathetic.
 
selling well, but obviously not well enough, since it lost the 2nd place to a 9-month old phone with double the price.

The 5C is not double the price of a Galaxy S4, the price difference is $50...what kind of troll are you?
Galaxy S4, direct from Samsung, is $550. iPhone 5C is $599.
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5c is more than a Sep. 2012 phone, it has the Sep. 2013 baseband chip in it. When you factor that in, the time difference between 5c and S4 is much smaller than half a year. When you take into consideration that 5c's price is only half of S4's, this statistic illustrates very clearly that 5c is a big failure.

Wait, wait, so now "specs" don't matter? Baseband chips do? In that case, you gotta admit, Apple has destroyed every Android hardware manufacturer. Starting with the first BLE phone and lower power LTE...
 

Please try to have some ability in comprehension. I am talking about a possible future. When the technology advance allows low-end smartphones to be very close to high-end smartphones on their capabilities, the whole high-end smartphone segment will have at most 5% market share. At that time, if Apple still insists only sell high-end smartphones, the iOS platform will have only 3-4% market share, then most developers, especially the small ones, will no longer care about this platform, then its distinction is no longer far.

Well, maybe at that time Apple will do something similar to what it did in 2004 to save Mac from death -- give iPhones the ability to dual boot into Android.
 
No that was my point that 13 month old Apple tech is better than androids current tech.

Oh, sorry I was referring to those who dismiss the 5C as "year old tech in a new colored plastic case". I'd be curious to know, is all the tech in the Moto X/G, cheaper Lumia's, Galaxy S4Mega/Mini, HTC One Mega/Mini, etc? The latest and greatest tech?
 
Please try to have some ability in comprehension. I am talking about a possible future. When the technology advance allows low-end smartphones to be very close to high-end smartphones on their capabilities, the whole high-end smartphone segment will have at most 5% market share. At that time, if Apple still insists only sell high-end smartphones, the iOS platform will have only 3-4% market share, then most developers, especially the small ones, will no longer care about this platform, then its distinction is no longer far.

People who buy low end smartphones do not spend money on apps...that is what drives developers.

Also, "at that time" is key...if low end smartphones are the equivalent to high end smartphones then what would make a high end the high end anyway? Apple has consistently shown that they outpace their competition massively with each new generation, and are already entering the 64-bit era. Good luck, "at that time".
 
Please try to have some ability in comprehension. I am talking about a possible future. When the technology advance allows low-end smartphones to be very close to high-end smartphones on their capabilities, the whole high-end smartphone segment will have at most 5% market share. At that time, if Apple still insists only sell high-end smartphones, the iOS platform will have only 3-4% market share, then most developers, especially the small ones, will no longer care about this platform, then its distinction is no longer far.

Well, maybe at that time Apple will do something similar to what it did in 2004 to save Mac from death -- give iPhones the ability to dual boot into Android.

3-4% of marketshare in any industry is considered a huge success especially for one phone.
 
Wrong, 4S was 2nd place this time last year. 5c is a real failure to be not able to outsell a 9-month old phone, with double the price.

You keep spouting off the same garbage. Quit it already. The month-to-month price of the S4 on Verizon is $599. The 5C is $549. You're being a major troll claiming it's double the price.
 
Oh, sorry I was referring to those who dismiss the 5C as "year old tech in a new colored plastic case". I'd be curious to know, is all the tech in the Moto X/G, cheaper Lumia's, Galaxy S4Mega/Mini, HTC One Mega/Mini, etc? The latest and greatest tech?

To be fair, it is "year old tech". But a year is nothing, many Android phones are selling with three year old tech right now.
 
Please try to have some ability in comprehension. I am talking about a possible future. When the technology advance allows low-end smartphones to be very close to high-end smartphones on their capabilities, the whole high-end smartphone segment will have at most 5% market share. At that time, if Apple still insists only sell high-end smartphones, the iOS platform will have only 3-4% market share, then most developers, especially the small ones, will no longer care about this platform, then its distinction is no longer far.

So you're equating 175M iPhones to 3% market share? Based on what, exactly?
 
Well, maybe at that time Apple will do something similar to what it did in 2004 to save Mac from death -- give iPhones the ability to dual boot into Android.

The ability to dual boot Windows did not save the Mac from death. Jesus, you really have a completely ass backwards perspective of these markets.
 
The 5C is not double the price of a Galaxy S4, the price difference is $50...what kind of troll are you?
Galaxy S4, direct from Samsung, is $550. iPhone 5C is $599.

We were talking about the statistics in the US, where most phones are bought at subsidized price, for which 5c is $99, while S4 is $199.

Wait, wait, so now "specs" don't matter? Baseband chips do? In that case, you gotta admit, Apple has destroyed every Android hardware manufacturer. Starting with the first BLE phone and lower power LTE...
They all count. That's why I said that the time difference needs to be of a discount from the so quoted "6 months".
 
Please try to have some ability in comprehension. I am talking about a possible future. When the technology advance allows low-end smartphones to be very close to high-end smartphones on their capabilities, the whole high-end smartphone segment will have at most 5% market share. At that time, if Apple still insists only sell high-end smartphones, the iOS platform will have only 3-4% market share, then most developers, especially the small ones, will no longer care about this platform, then its distinction is no longer far.

Well, maybe at that time Apple will do something similar to what it did in 2004 to save Mac from death -- give iPhones the ability to dual boot into Android.
again why you so stuck on android Samsung and Google are about to dump android
 
Not that I agree to the comment. But we realize the 5c is essentially the same as the 5 released last year where the S4 is a current year product?

Hardware spec-wise, the S4 may be better...but the overall picture is broader than that. Including user experience.
Ever tried dealing with Samsung's customer service will paint a different picture. :(

I've never dealt with Samsung cs, so I have no idea what it is like. In over 20 years of using cellular phones, I have never had to deal with a manufacturers customer service or with a cellular providers cs for anything hardware related- I'm not including a dumb phone that I dropped and broke and got replaced with a refurb many years ago. Apple's cs would be tough to equal or beat.
 
To be fair, it is "year old tech". But a year is nothing, many Android phones are selling with three year old tech right now.

No it's not fair because when mid range Android or Windows phones come out no one asks/questions how old the tech is. But with the 5C all we hear is how Apple is trying to pass off year old tech as something new.
 
No it's not fair because when mid range Android or Windows phones come out no one asks/questions how old the tech is. But with the 5C all we hear is how Apple is trying to pass off year old tech as something new.

But with Apple, it is last years tech with current day tech prices.
 
The fact that it's in the top 3, and nobody else is, is more than enough to call it a success.

It depends on how you define "success" and "failure". To Apple, losing that 2nd place is enough to call it a failure. 4S was able to keep that 2nd place last year.

And on two of those carriers, it's number 2.

You were only looking at the number in Sept., when 5c was fresh and hot. It soon lost the 2nd place at Sprint in Oct., then also lost that 2nd place at AT&T in Nov. It holds no "number 2" anywhere in Nov.
 
It depends on how you define "success" and "failure". To Apple, losing that 2nd place is enough to call it a failure. 4S was able to keep that 2nd place last year.

The one thing that matters most in business is if their product is making them a profit. Even if it is 3rd place behind the 4S, it's still making Apple a bundle of cash, so I doubt they consider it a failure.

This isn't a race where first is the winner, and everyone else goes home without the glory. It's selling and selling well. That's all that matters.
 
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