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iPhone 5s Top-Selling Smartphone at All U.S. Carriers, iPhone 5c Takes Third
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Actually last year the 4S held the second spot for best selling smartphone in US. So this year around people would rather go with Galaxy s4 rather than 5C
So yep while the number may be higher it's not as successful as it should. Not because it's $99 with contract, let's face it.. It's $549 and so it's wrong
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Units sold is more important to me.
Units sold could be higher, repeating last year's success assuming it's priced more accordingly considering the 5C is cheapen out while 4S was not.
Weird, even the Los Angeles people I know with Android phones all use Nexus (made by LG) or Motorola. As doubtful as I am that LG is anywhere near as good as Samsung... but I haven't tried it. Quite a small number of people overall. My friend got one because it's cheap, and he informed me that the new Android has Google Plus integrated into it, so I guess I'm never going near that.
Well then let's assume US of A carriers don't subsidize phone anymore. People need to buy their phones outright and you spare up to $700 for your phone.
Would you still buy 5C over 5S then?
If ya say so!
Personally, I think it's going to be the same leapfrogging we've been seeing for the past three years.
Super personally, I didn't think Samsung would play it safe with the S4 or the Note III, but they have much more reason to experiment and do crazy things. Apple will continue to play it safe, as they've been since the iPhone 4. I'd love to see a bigger iPhone 6 (with an OS that can handle it) but the safe bet is going to be an incremental update.
That's incorrect. The 4S only had the number 2 spot for one quarter before the release of the 5.
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Play it safe? At least the features released on the iPhone work.
The S4 is ripe with gimmicks that barely work and tend to cause severe annoyance.
How is this incorrect?
Q4 2012 .. that's one quarter after iPhone 5 released .. and somehow 4S managed to keep the second spot.
So where did you get your information?
Okay. Then let's pretend you buy your iPhone outright. Would you spend $549 for 5C while $649 would score you a 5S?
I have a hard time believing a new iPhone is so popular (sarcasm for you kids at home). But seriously it's an iPhone. Of course it's going to be the number one phone for all the respective carriers. That's why they fought tooth and nail to have it.
A reminder to some
Many people on the forum are trolls or bashers or emotionally charged with their love or hate for Apple. Don't let them suck you in. When you see a statement that is irrational, rude, or against common sense, just ignore it.
I've figured out that you can learn some, but a lot of people who post things on the internet aren't really thinking logically. And for investors, there are some who are just passionate about arguing the greatness or folly of Apple's product when we are talking about the company, earnings, and the prospect for more.
Many people just look at Iphone numbers (which should be compared to other phone sales in the same general price points) and compare them without taking an overall view of things. Iphone never had "market share" over people trying (nothing wrong with that, I've done it) to save money and buy a cheaper phone. Those people are akin to the flip phone market, with really low margins and who will never buy a more expensive phone unless they somehow earn or get more money.
Furthermore, Apple is not a one trick pony. Before Iphones, it developed computers, then laptops, then Ipods. Then Iphones. Then Ipads. And they are developing more products. The rumors are not baseless, there have been acquisitions and there are and always have been some of the brightest minds out there (some at Apple, some not, but many at Apple - it's both prestigious and lucrative (more prestigious and exciting) to work there. I've known people who worked for Apple who are brilliant and who eventually moved on because they were burned out, worked so hard, or were already wealthy and wanted to try something new.
Apple is a giant company constantly developing. They wouldn't be developing a giant compound if they were just relying on their current products for future earnings.
My best guess is that they will have a radically new Apple TV set top box or plug in device that uses some new interface, which jobs said he "cracked" and will make the overall media and tv experience awesome (and not a set top television set. That makes zero business sense - too low profit margins, too many sizes, and too long of a turnover - they won't sell a tv that is purchased once every 5-10 years.
But Apple will be generating profits from other products as well. They're doing solidly as a company, growing their profits (making actual billions - not hoping to one day make money like most tech companies) expanding where they can sell (Japan and China to name a few), and I expect those places to have a little Apple frenzy the way America did. They'll likely sell more tablets and computers there as well as people get sucked into the arguably pleasant echo system.
So this is just more positive news.
Many people on the forum are trolls or bashers or emotionally charged with their love or hate for Apple. Don't let them suck you in. When you see a statement that is irrational, rude, or against common sense, just ignore it.
I've figured out that you can learn some, but a lot of people who post things on the internet aren't really thinking logically. And for investors, there are some who are just passionate about arguing the greatness or folly of Apple's product when we are talking about the company, earnings, and the prospect for more.
Many people just look at Iphone numbers (which should be compared to other phone sales in the same general price points) and compare them without taking an overall view of things. Iphone never had "market share" over people trying (nothing wrong with that, I've done it) to save money and buy a cheaper phone. Those people are akin to the flip phone market, with really low margins and who will never buy a more expensive phone unless they somehow earn or get more money.
Furthermore, Apple is not a one trick pony. Before Iphones, it developed computers, then laptops, then Ipods. Then Iphones. Then Ipads. And they are developing more products. The rumors are not baseless, there have been acquisitions and there are and always have been some of the brightest minds out there (some at Apple, some not, but many at Apple - it's both prestigious and lucrative (more prestigious and exciting) to work there. I've known people who worked for Apple who are brilliant and who eventually moved on because they were burned out, worked so hard, or were already wealthy and wanted to try something new.
Apple is a giant company constantly developing. They wouldn't be developing a giant compound if they were just relying on their current products for future earnings.
My best guess is that they will have a radically new Apple TV set top box or plug in device that uses some new interface, which jobs said he "cracked" and will make the overall media and tv experience awesome (and not a set top television set. That makes zero business sense - too low profit margins, too many sizes, and too long of a turnover - they won't sell a tv that is purchased once every 5-10 years.
But Apple will be generating profits from other products as well. They're doing solidly as a company, growing their profits (making actual billions - not hoping to one day make money like most tech companies) expanding where they can sell (Japan and China to name a few), and I expect those places to have a little Apple frenzy the way America did. They'll likely sell more tablets and computers there as well as people get sucked into the arguably pleasant echo system.
So this is just more positive news.
Also please explain how there sales and profits go up after each and every iteration, bottom line is if they still make a good amount of profit for every phone sold why should they care what you think.
Even with only 5% of the market share they will still be around for years and years to come but the other 95% who make next to no profit (except Samsung who make profits and Google who don't really but they make their money from Ads etc..) as they will be in trouble (HTC, LG even Sony, Blackberry etc..), not saying they are bad phones as they're not.
Look at HTC, they made the best smartphone last year by critics standards and I would have bought one if I was in the market for one and look at them now, margins were low sales were low and they are in trouble.
So to say Apple is going to be in trouble if it doesn't make cheap phones is ridiculous.
Well, you should just, you know, not do that then.
You do realize that iOS (unlike Android) "freezes" apps in the background, right? It doesn't follow the same model as a desktop OS. Unless they've requested background processing time, apps don't continue doing much of anything at all when you switch away from them, least of all burning up processor time. And in the rare instance that an app does get too greedy with background processing, you can actually use iOS's system settings to deny that particular app background processing.
The only flaw that system has is in making users think they have to quit apps when they're not using them.
Somebody couldn't buy a point, even with Ritchie Rich's money...
This ENTIRE article & discussion revolves around the comparison of INDIVIDUAL handsets. You are literally the ONLY one talking about every single phone that runs one operating system vs every single phone that runs a different operating system. In essence: you are talking to yourself.
Again, how does stating that a 5C is $99 on contract reflect my desire to purchase a phone (any phone for that matter)?
Everybody knows 5C starts from $99 with contract.
But you implied getting 5C is very cheap compared to 5S. In some way it looks 5C starts at $99 and 5S at $199 thus makes the 5C 50% cheaper?
Well I'd like you to look more carefully. 5C is a $549 phone while 5S, $649. For the raw product, that's more like 15% cheaper.
Now just because you're on contract does not make it any cheaper. You just pay a small upfront fee just like you pay something with a credit card. And in return you pay a monthly installment along with the plan.
Even better, sum the grand total of ownership cost in 24 months for any iPhone and you may realize you even save no more than 4% for choosing 5C over 5S. Not exactly A LOT cheaper now, does it?
And that's the reason I ask you, would you buy a 5C outright? Because I think $549 is too much for what it is. I'm okay with $99 upfront fee, but it's pointless because you're on contract. So it does not reflect the "real" retail price.
I didn't read your "book." I never implied the 5C was cheap compared to the 5S. I was discussing contract pricing. I said in the states 5C (16gb) is $99 and a 5S (32gb) is $299 on contract. Read my posts.
The fact that you think $550 is half of $640 really tells me all I need to know.
Android already has 80% market share.
And look at all the iOS-first and iOS-only apps still being made today.
Why? It's simple... iPhone users spend more money on apps.
Developers aren't being hypnotized by Android's large market share number. It comes with some caveats.
Yes... 8 out of 10 smartphones sold today run Android. But a good amount of those phones are complete garbage white box phones sold in China, India and elsewhere around the world. Those people aren't spending a lot of money on apps. If you take those phones out of the mix... the Android audience isn't as big as you think.
Plus... Android phones are everywhere... even in parts of the world that barely have 3G access... let alone 4G. If your app has any sort of online component... it probably won't be very popular in those areas. A phone may be running Android... but because of the lack of data coverage... it may only be used for voice and text. Once again... if you take those phones out of the mix... the Android audience gets even smaller.
From a developer standpoint... the 12% iPhone smartphone market share is out-performing the 80% Android market share.
And that's why developers will continue to bother with iOS even though is has lower market share.
You can't simply look at the market share number... there's much more to consider.
Apple is so far ahead of the competition it's insane. But it's good to see the true innovators being rewarded with the biggest sales numbers. Samsung copying business is going stale and soon their entire business will cease to exist.
But it's good to see the true innovators being rewarded with the biggest sales numbers. Samsung copying business is going stale and soon their entire business will cease to exist.
Yep the only reason iPhone 5C still takes the top three spots is because the Nexus 5 is not a subsidized phone. I still can't see why anyone besides tech reviewers and misinformed people (a large amount, btw) would buy the iPhone 5C.
Same phone, but painted pink, yellow, blue, green, and white!
Same phone, but painted pink, yellow, blue, green, and white!
That wasn't stated explicitly and besides, the hardware and OS in both cases are almost inseparable so I'm not sure I understand the point of comparing one without the other.
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I use Siri and Maps on my iPhone frequently and they both work just fine.