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iPhone 6 and 6 Plus Capable of Faster Charging Using iPad 2.1A Adapter
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That's just incorrect I'm afraid.
I think that's what's called placebo.
iPhones (the 6s' are the exception) don't charge faster just because they have a higher wattage charger attached.
An iPhone with a 12W charger takes the same time to charge, whether it's got an iPad 12W charger attached, or the supplied 5W charger.
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If you use the iPad charger to charge, can you use the iPad cable or only the 6 cable?
If you use the iPad charger to charge, can you use the iPad cable or only the 6 cable?
Any lightning cable will work. I am using a 7ft and 10ft cable and my killawatt shows the same watts as the short Apple cable.
They have the same cost to the buyer. Unless you are an Apple store employee, then you may consider it a price.
You got a basic answer from a customer service representative who has a minimal understanding of the issue.
The compatibility list at http://store.apple.com/us/product/M...602b6dac97122621b7d7d4e931b6ca34f571bb7d8983a is a lot more meaningful than a helpdesk employee's word.
Safe to charge 6+ with the iPad charger ?
I have noticed that when I charge my iPhone 5s with the 2.1A charger, even it charges faster. I did have issues with the battery(Update: I have got the 5s replaced), it used to drain @ 25% per hr(even when in standby). I'm not an expert, I just figured that the battery issues came up b'cos I started charging it with my iPad charger.
Can some one confirm if it's safe to charge 6+ with the iPad charger ? I just spent $1000 on iPhone 6+(factory unlocked) pre-order(Launches here on the 16th of October) and I don't want to spoil the battery.
I have noticed that when I charge my iPhone 5s with the 2.1A charger, even it charges faster. I did have issues with the battery(Update: I have got the 5s replaced), it used to drain @ 25% per hr(even when in standby). I'm not an expert, I just figured that the battery issues came up b'cos I started charging it with my iPad charger.
Can some one confirm if it's safe to charge 6+ with the iPad charger ? I just spent $1000 on iPhone 6+(factory unlocked) pre-order(Launches here on the 16th of October) and I don't want to spoil the battery.
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I have noticed that when I charge my iPhone 5s with the 2.1A charger, even it charges faster. I did have issues with the battery(Update: I have got the 5s replaced), it used to drain @ 25% per hr(even when in standby). I'm not an expert, I just figured that the battery issues came up b'cos I started charging it with my iPad charger.
Can some one confirm if it's safe to charge 6+ with the iPad charger ? I just spent $1000 on iPhone 6+(factory unlocked) pre-order(Launches here on the 16th of October) and I don't want to spoil the battery.
Yes, the iPad chargers are compatible with all the current iPhones.
As for older phones charging faster with iPad chargers, it's generally a placebo effect.
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So it won't affect the battery life at all ?
I'm not sure how many times it can be said in this thread, but no, it will not have any adverse affect.
Is it really that much of a hassle to just use the charger it came with?
Go ahead. The rest of us will use the numerous chargers we already own while also benefiting from faster charging with the new model phones.
Anyone know if any of the ones below will work??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Enercell-Du...harger-3-1A-Travel-Wall-Charger-/310930484479
or
http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/vehicle-charger-for-apple-lightning/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Enercell-Du...harger-3-1A-Travel-Wall-Charger-/310930484479
or
http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/vehicle-charger-for-apple-lightning/
Both specify 2.1a charging which will charge faster. They are not as powerful as the 2.4a/12w Apple iPad chargers.
Charger alternative ?
I think this is the most convenient thing ever !! Just ordered it ! Anyone else using it ?
http://www.amazon.com/Desktop-Charger-PowerIQ-Technology-Samsung/dp/B00GTGETFG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1414001324&sr=8-5&keywords=anker
I think this is the most convenient thing ever !! Just ordered it ! Anyone else using it ?
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I charge everything on it: My iPad4, iPhone4 and iphone6+, Kindle, S4mini, 2 Bluetooth headsets.
Only the iPod Classic doesn't charge at it.
Only the iPod Classic doesn't charge at it.
I can also say they work great. I have about 4 of them (older model w/o IQ and newer ones with IQ) and a friend has a few also, and they all work wonderfully. Sometimes they are one sale for $19 if you keep an eye out...
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Using a 2.1A charger will not damage your battery people, basic laws of physics here. The phone's charging circuit will only draw the current it needs, current ratings on power supplies are MAXIMUM current ratings. To avoid damaging the CHARGER, the phone will limit itself based on the detected charger. If it tried drawing 2.1A from a keyboard's USB port, for example, bad things would happen to the keyboard and maybe even the USB port that keyboard was plugged into. Very bad things. Likewise, you could easily damage the iPhone charger in short order doubling the current draw on it (though I believe it shuts itself down safely, as will most USB ports - thus my fear in that scenario being they keyboard example).
Now, that said, is it better to charge the battery at a lower rate? MAYBE... maybe. Conventional wisdom says yes, albeit only slightly better. Modern battery charging, however, is very intelligent and good at preserving battery life. I would not be concerned. ANY charge will degrade the battery, faster charging might slightly moreso, but I doubt the difference would be observable even over the life of the phone. Other behaviours are far more damaging (letting the battery die completely, using it while it's hot, etc)
Now, that said, is it better to charge the battery at a lower rate? MAYBE... maybe. Conventional wisdom says yes, albeit only slightly better. Modern battery charging, however, is very intelligent and good at preserving battery life. I would not be concerned. ANY charge will degrade the battery, faster charging might slightly moreso, but I doubt the difference would be observable even over the life of the phone. Other behaviours are far more damaging (letting the battery die completely, using it while it's hot, etc)
My iPhone 6 plus takes around 3 hours to fully charge from 10% using the 1A adapter that comes shipped with it. Yesterday, I tested it with the Sony CP-AD2 2.1A adapter and found that it still took around 3 hrs to charge. Am I doing something wrong? I am using the lightning cable the iPad mini lightning cable though. I reckon that shouldn't make any difference Any help?
Any help?
Very informative and interesting thread. Especially liked the attachment describing in detail the Apple transformers. Amazing how much engineering goes into what most of us believe to be a simple device. I would never subject my baby or my safety to any third party junk transformer to save a couple dollars.
I suspect that many people don't read the full thread and therefore seem to miss important points that have been stated several times, but also seems to be forgotten afew responses later.
I have consolidated the major points in my mind and thought it would be useful to share them.
1 All the iPhones regulate the amount of current they draw regardless of the power supply size.
2. When plugging in the lightening cable power may be supplied to multiple areas. Charging the battery, lighting the display, running the microprocessor even in background, running various radios even if phone is sleeping.
3. By design iPhone 6 and earlier draw about 6 to 7 watts maximum for the total charge function usage. The charge will taper down as the battery becomes more charged. This means that if the screen is off and the processor and radios don't run, all this power can go for charging the battery. So that smaller charger will supply all 6 watts to charge function. i.e., there would be no charge time difference between smaller and larger chargers.
If however any other function were being performed some of the power would be used other than for charging the battery and charging would take longer with the smaller supplied charger. Therefore a person will experience a faster charge when using the larger iPad transformer because it is capable of providing more wattage in total. Full 6 watts to charge and more power for other functions running simultaneously.
I suspect that if the phone were turned completely off, such that all power up to 6 watts were used to charge the battery only, charge times would be identical regardless of which charger were used.
4 The iPhone 6+ has been designed to charge the battery with up to 11 - 12 watts at initial charging and tapering down as battery becomes charged. Therefore the 6+ will charge faster in all situations using the iPad charger. Again though, charge time will be longer anytime other functions utilize some of the current.
5 Apple has formally in writing stated that the iPad charger can be used with the iPhones without causing any damage to battery.
6 Other factors such as heat or cold will affect the battery both in charge level and longevity. Knowing this it would be less than wise to charge any phone, with screen at max, playing an intensive game over wifi and listening to music on Bluetooth, while having the phone in a case, and feeling it get hot.
7 it remains unclear if fast or slow charging is best as recent nano particle investigation shows individual molecules fast charge and current jumps to adjacent molecules and fast charges those and so on. I suspect for our purposes as long as the phone does not get hot, fast or slow charging will not make any longevity differences as the different rates are all within Apple engineering allowances.
In manufacturing there are always variances, and some batteries will last longer than others, and a few will be defective from the get go. So any individual stories either good or bad really don't validate anything.
This pretty much sums up my understanding of the situation. I will continue to use both chargers on my 6+ keeping the phone out of temperature extremes as I have so done for the 4s, 5s before it.
I suspect that many people don't read the full thread and therefore seem to miss important points that have been stated several times, but also seems to be forgotten afew responses later.
I have consolidated the major points in my mind and thought it would be useful to share them.
1 All the iPhones regulate the amount of current they draw regardless of the power supply size.
2. When plugging in the lightening cable power may be supplied to multiple areas. Charging the battery, lighting the display, running the microprocessor even in background, running various radios even if phone is sleeping.
3. By design iPhone 6 and earlier draw about 6 to 7 watts maximum for the total charge function usage. The charge will taper down as the battery becomes more charged. This means that if the screen is off and the processor and radios don't run, all this power can go for charging the battery. So that smaller charger will supply all 6 watts to charge function. i.e., there would be no charge time difference between smaller and larger chargers.
If however any other function were being performed some of the power would be used other than for charging the battery and charging would take longer with the smaller supplied charger. Therefore a person will experience a faster charge when using the larger iPad transformer because it is capable of providing more wattage in total. Full 6 watts to charge and more power for other functions running simultaneously.
I suspect that if the phone were turned completely off, such that all power up to 6 watts were used to charge the battery only, charge times would be identical regardless of which charger were used.
4 The iPhone 6+ has been designed to charge the battery with up to 11 - 12 watts at initial charging and tapering down as battery becomes charged. Therefore the 6+ will charge faster in all situations using the iPad charger. Again though, charge time will be longer anytime other functions utilize some of the current.
5 Apple has formally in writing stated that the iPad charger can be used with the iPhones without causing any damage to battery.
6 Other factors such as heat or cold will affect the battery both in charge level and longevity. Knowing this it would be less than wise to charge any phone, with screen at max, playing an intensive game over wifi and listening to music on Bluetooth, while having the phone in a case, and feeling it get hot.
7 it remains unclear if fast or slow charging is best as recent nano particle investigation shows individual molecules fast charge and current jumps to adjacent molecules and fast charges those and so on. I suspect for our purposes as long as the phone does not get hot, fast or slow charging will not make any longevity differences as the different rates are all within Apple engineering allowances.
In manufacturing there are always variances, and some batteries will last longer than others, and a few will be defective from the get go. So any individual stories either good or bad really don't validate anything.
This pretty much sums up my understanding of the situation. I will continue to use both chargers on my 6+ keeping the phone out of temperature extremes as I have so done for the 4s, 5s before it.
My iPhone 6 plus takes around 3 hours to fully charge from 10% using the 1A adapter that comes shipped with it. Yesterday, I tested it with the Sony CP-AD2 2.1A adapter and found that it still took around 3 hrs to charge. Am I doing something wrong? I am using the lightning cable the iPad mini lightning cable though. I reckon that shouldn't make any difference
Usb adapters that are not design for Apple devices will default to 1a. Try a 2.1a adapter that's compatibile with Apple devices.
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More powerful but won't charge any faster. My iPad 2.4a adapter shows the same amp and watt as a 2.1a adapter. The limit seems to be 2.1a for the iPhone.