iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Sales Top Ten Million in Launch Weekend

[Trapezoid]

Profit analysis alone isn't valuable either though because it doesn't speak to sustainability.

I am not suggesting Apple is doomed in the slightest btw.

Oh I know you're not, I hope I didn't imply you were. Like I said, both models obviously work because we have great examples of both working. I just feel that when you look at market share it looks great on paper but when you examine it closer, it may not look that great.

A balance is needed between both, and I think apple has found a good balance between share (20, some odd percent globally) and profit (13+ billion a qtr...)

That's about as sustainable as you can get!

 

[osofast240sx]

Dude, the new phones don't use sapphire anywhere except the TouchID sensor. Not that much sapphire. Get a grip. LOL!

I thought the camera lens cover was sapphire?

 

[dannyyankou]

That's 38.5 iPhones sold every SECOND.

 

[whiteboytrash]

Dude, the new phones don't use sapphire anywhere except the TouchID sensor. Not that much sapphire. Get a grip. LOL!

The camera lens is sapphire.

My thoughts on the "protruding" element is its more about protecting the camera against breakage as it is about fitting it into the thinner form factor.

 

[gnasher729]

Someone told me they manufacture from recycle parts is that true
?

Who told you that who manufacturers what from recycled parts? Assuming that you are not trying to troll, you should really state a question carefully if you want an answer.

 

[576316]

Really awesome, well deserved numbers for Apple!

 

[dojoman]

But but Samsung Note 3 sold 10 millions in 60 days.

 

[Lymf]

This particular store closes at 7PM Sunday and reopens at 9AM Monday. There are no couriers that provide deliveries in our region (or any other?) after 7PM on a Sunday. The first appointments for reservation pickups are 9AM this morning.

Yeah, because no company can get night deliveries, especially for a billions dollars company.

 

[gnasher729]

Profit analysis is definitely useful alone. It shows you're making money, how you're making it and how you can make more. Which is the end goal of every corporation.

Market share by itself doesn't mean anything because you could be bleeding money and be on the verge of bankruptcy even if you have 90% market share.

That being said, yes each has its plusses and minuses.

I read in a newspaper (maybe a month ago) that "Microsoft beat Apple in phone sales". It turned out that they counted all the $10 ex-Nokia phones the same as they counted $600 iPhones. And there were just _slightly_ more cheap Nokia phones sold in the quarter than iPhones. If you look at market share for products at hugely different prices, at the very least you should compare revenue, not units.

 

[Trapezoid]

I read in a newspaper (maybe a month ago) that "Microsoft beat Apple in phone sales". It turned out that they counted all the $10 ex-Nokia phones the same as they counted $600 iPhones. And there were just _slightly_ more cheap Nokia phones sold in the quarter than iPhones. If you look at market share for products at hugely different prices, at the very least you should compare revenue, not units.

Really most metrics that you couple with market share can give you useful information. Talking it alone just doesn't mean anything to me and I suspect, although I don't know for sure that no company would consider themselves successful if they had huge market share and no money to show for it.

 

[gnasher729]

Steve said nothing about 10 million units. He only said (as you pointed out) 1% of the market he wanted. Steve didn't say if he meant profitshare or marketshare.

Well, at the time he said it, 10 million units per year were one percent of the units sold in the total phone market. His goal was one percent; today Apple would need to sell 20 million units or so per year to hit the same goal. In reality I think their market share in the total phone market is about 10 percent and has been growing every year.

I don't think Steve Jobs would have been happy at all with 1 percent profit share, and I don't think that would have been his expectation.

Why shouldn't the first phones sold go to those most willing to pay for them? If someone in China is willing to pay twice as much as you are, why shouldn't they be able to pay someone to wait in a line to buy it for them and bring it home? The not so subtle racism here is really surprising and disgusting.

The point is not where the people are living who pay stupid prices. The point is that phones should be sold to people who pay their money to get a phone that they use every day, and not to someone who skims off profit. There is no racism involved here at all. The problem is that the Chinese government apparently delays giving Apple permission to sell the iPhone 6 in China, which is why these people pay exorbitant prices to the scalpers that everyone hates instead paying normal retail price at an Apple store in China.

 

[Tumbleweed666]

And the number will grow exponentially

No it wont. It will grow linearly.

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In reality I think their market share in the total phone market is about 10 percent and has been growing every year.

Apples market share is falling, even though absolute numbers grow, simply because so many android phones are being sold.

 

[xDKP]

But.... But I don't get it! Samsung told us the next big thing was already here!!

 

[gnasher729]

I would be sincerely curious to see new vs upgrade #s.

After reading this article, especially which brought up some interesting points.

Apple just lost the global smartphone war to Google
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/arti...e-war-to-google?trk=tod-home-art-list-large_0

I read this article on theregister: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/19/smartphones_its_the_economics_stupid/ with the headline "iPhone 6: The final straw for Android makers eaten alive by the data parasite? Arr, makin' spy kit fer Google, a mug's game matey"

The "data parasite" is obviously Google. "Spy kit for Google" = Android phones.

 

[KindredMAC]

6Plus to be Apple's Power Mac Cube?

So when I went to pick up my iPhone 6 last night I witnessed two people come in with their 6 Pluses requesting to downgrade to the regular 6. When asked what was wrong, they both responded with the same "it's too big... I can't use it with one hand." Which lead me to wonder, will Apple see more of these types of returns in the coming weeks for individuals who were not able to get a hands on feel of them before buying?

I too feel the iPhone Plus is too large. It feels like an iPad nano in my hand and is extremely uncomfortable to use. Even my iPhone 6 can feel unwieldy from time to time right now.

So could Apple have pushed the iPhone market too far too fast with the 6 Plus just like they did with the Cube? Will the Plus find itself a "one and done" exercise in design?

Thoughts?

 

[gnasher729]

Apples market share is falling, even though absolute numbers grow, simply because so many android phones are being sold.

Lesson in reading comprehension: Apple's market share in the phone market has been growing, year after year. Apple's market share in the high-end smartphone market has been growing, year after year.

Apple's market share in the smartphone market has been shrinking, due to the shift from non-smart phones to smartphones. However, the shift from non-smartphone to smartphone hasn't given the smartphone makers any additional revenues.

 

[kdarling]

But but Samsung Note 3 sold 10 millions in 60 days.

We should compare Note sales to iPhone 6+ sales, and Galaxy S sales to iPhone 6 sales.

I read somewhere that iPhone 6+ manufacturing was about 1/4 of total iPhones. If that percentage holds up with sales as well, then about 2.5 million iPhone 6+ were sold to end users and retailers.

We would expect that number to get a bump when it becomes officially available in China. Of course, it looks like a lot of sales already went there via scalpers buying outside of China.

Then there's the people who bought both types of iPhone and will be returning one of them (lots of I'm returning my iPhone 6+ - it's too big - threads), but who knows how many that really is.

 

[slffl]

And from the looks of it, most of those will be heading back to China thanks to the Chinese Mafia. This launch was a joke.

 

[samcraig]

Oh I know you're not, I hope I didn't imply you were. Like I said, both models obviously work because we have great examples of both working. I just feel that when you look at market share it looks great on paper but when you examine it closer, it may not look that great.

A balance is needed between both, and I think apple has found a good balance between share (20, some odd percent globally) and profit (13+ billion a qtr...)

That's about as sustainable as you can get!

I can agree with that...

 

[iphone5att64]

So when I went to pick up my iPhone 6 last night I witnessed two people come in with their 6 Pluses requesting to downgrade to the regular 6. When asked what was wrong, they both responded with the same "it's too big... I can't use it with one hand." Which lead me to wonder, will Apple see more of these types of returns in the coming weeks for individuals who were not able to get a hands on feel of them before buying?

I too feel the iPhone Plus is too large. It feels like an iPad nano in my hand and is extremely uncomfortable to use. Even my iPhone 6 can feel unwieldy from time to time right now.

So could Apple have pushed the iPhone market too far too fast with the 6 Plus just like they did with the Cube? Will the Plus find itself a "one and done" exercise in design?

Thoughts?

If we need two hands to use a 6 Plus, we might as well carry around an iPad.

 

[adnbek]

Wow that's bad news I was thinking 15 million. Hopefully its due to stock being low

Apple is doomed.

 

[XboxMySocks]

Dude, the new phones don't use sapphire anywhere except the TouchID sensor. Not that much sapphire. Get a grip. LOL!

The camera lens

 

[SMIDG3T]

10 million people are going to be pissed off !!!! Welcome to fragmentation

Apps should not be allowed to say they’re updated for iOS 8 if they don’t support the new display sizes.

— John Gruber (@gruber) September 19, 2014
Yeah, developers need to seriously update their apps for the 6 Plus.

— Mark Gurman (@markgurman) September 19, 2014
I just downloaded a lot of apps on the iPhone 6 and it looks like they're ALL magnified. Updates needed!

— saschasegan (@saschasegan) September 19, 2014
6 plus users are getting just the tiniest, tiniest taste of android hardware spec fragmentation hell right now

— Chris Ziegler (@zpower) September 19, 2014
OK, after 30 minutes of using the iPhone 6+ its clear app dev need to work on scaling. As do we…

— Benjamin Dyer (@benjamindyer) September 19, 2014
Blown up iPhone 5 apps look terrible on the 6. I can’t imagine how bad they look on a 6+.

— Graham Wetzler (@grahamwetzler) September 19, 2014
Talk about fragmentation. iOS on iPhone 6 plus. No two apps look and behave the same. Tonnes of "non scaling" apps. Not a good start.

— Varun Singh (@phiero) September 19, 2014
@escoz Sounds good! Hopefully the small update brings support for iPhone 6 screen. The scaling Apple is doing currently looks terrible.

— Kevin Dietrich (@_kevdi) September 19, 2014
Most apps do not look good on iPhone 6 plus while scaling. This means that we have to create custom interface to fit the screen best.

— Denys Zhadanov (@DenZhadanov) September 19, 2014
I'm already tired of scaling on #iPhone 6.

— Wes Hargrove (@whargrove) September 19, 2014
Yup, companies working on it now RT @WilliamBerlin: The iPhone 6 will be better when they format the apps to the screen.

— Paul Briggs (@PastorTroy_) September 19, 2014
Most of the apps I have installed look like garbage on the iPhone 6 plus. It's like scaling up and iPhone app to run on an IPad.

— Josh Highland (@JoshHighland) September 19, 2014
Pretty much none of my apps have been updated for the new iPhone 6 screen size. #fail

— Jacob Evans (@evansio) September 19, 2014
They need to fix some of these apps because they look hideous on the iPhone 6 Plus

— Charie Traplin (@King_Eazzy) September 19, 2014
Even after an hour of use I'm annoyed with apps that haven't been updated for the iPhone 6 screen size. Hurry devs!

— Rob Wright (@isrob) September 19, 2014
There are only a few apps that are optimized for iPhone 6. Okay developers! Get on it!

— Anthony C Waldron (@AnthonyCWaldron) September 19, 2014

Fragmentation is NOWHERE near as bad on iOS.

Developers will soon have their apps updated, don't you worry!

 

[croooow]

...Get your damn preorders filled including those thru telecoms and then freaking worry about sales to rest of world!

You don't get to be as big as Apple by forgetting about the rest of the world and only catering to the US.

Again, full disclosure: I am a proud American and would benefit if Apple did focus on the US first letting the rest of the world "suffer". I am just being realistic.

 

[Mtmspa]

Wall of text aside, obviously this will be fixed, I'd say by the end of the year. Minor speed bump, but it will let Samsung fanboys make some memes for a couple of months.

I bet the guy got a woodie while copy and pasting those quotes.