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If Apple is making their business decisions based on dynamics in a tiny market with unique conditions (phone subsidies), they can forget about it.

But why would you think that? :confused: If there are any signs at all where they are targeting, it's China.

I live in Europe. Here iPhones are considered great but too expensive.

Obviously not everyone agrees with your sweeping generalisation since iPhone sales increased in 2014. Both by volume and market percent IIRC.
 
Can you imagine if Apple were to release iPhone 6 (5.5inch) as the Premium edition, 4.7inch as iPhone 6C? Lol! if that happens, I bet most of them will jump on the bandwagon and call it iPhone 6 (5.5) a win. And forget ever saying larger display is not cool and not for them.
 
Hopefully Apple finds a way in iOS 8 that allows for minimal need to reach the opposite corner of the device. For example, how will navigating 'back' in the OS be handled? The 'back' button is usually in the top left corner. Will Apple find a better way to handle that? I'm more concerned about the software side of things for one handed use than I am on the hardware side.

Android/WP have the dedicated back button on the bottom of the screen, which is very handy. What will Apple come up with?

Maybe they'll force gestures (I love the swiping back gesture currently in iOS 7 but it's not everywhere yet) onto developers to make it truly system and app wide.

Yeah, the swiping back gesture is brilliant. When it's there, I've used it and I never use the back button if I don't have too.

We'll wait and see but I'm sure they'll come up with something!
 
No, you are one of the very few. And I salute your ability to have a mind of you own, well done, and good on you for not doing what most others are doing now.

Not that long ago, any mention of larger screen was met with waves and waves of people on these forums saying no way. Don't need it, don't want it, Apple won't make it.

Now, in recent days, it's almost full of people saying YAY, I want BIG screen, take my money, can't wait.

It's utterly amazing, how, yet again, Apple fans totally 180 degree change their mind from hating and not wanting something to shouting, I want it, I want it.

I respect you for having a brain that has independent thought. Well done to you.


Only 2% of people here wanted a 5" plus phone:

https://forums.macrumors.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=6243

Another Poll here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1407517/

And Another:

https://forums.macrumors.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=9852

Looks like virtually no one here will be buying the 5.5" one if it comes out then huh?

:)

I don't understand why or how people get their joy from being so condescending and insulting.

Shock, horror - people's opinions evolve over time. Two years ago I got the iPhone 5 and I thought that that was the biggest I would ever want. I thought it was cool that Apple had brought out a bigger phone but didn't think I would ever want something bigger.

Two years later, my usage on the phone has shifted and I've started consuming more and more pictures and videos, and I want more space to read, etc. So, surprise! I'm ready for a bigger screen. I imagine many people here are the same.

Yeah, there *are* people who just stick their heads in the sand and prefer whatever Apple does, but there are people who just stick their heads in the sand and prefer whatever other manufacturers do as well. I've seen a gradual shift on the forums over the last couple of years due to changing desires and usage, not this 'omg it's Apple I want it' that people so deride.

It's a bit tiring that some people seem to come to these forums seemingly only to mock and feel superior to other users. I can make up my own mind, thanks, and I'd prefer to stop being painted as only wanting something because it's Apple when I seriously debated getting the HTC One a year ago before deciding to go with the 5s.

(Also, I fall into the 4.7 camp, 5.5 is still far too big for my tastes and I've gotten to play with and hold a few phones that size.)
 
Funny how "time changes" and "how people use their phone changes" right in line with the likelihood of changes with Apple's releases. Either Apple is completely amazing of knowing exactly when to change models to stay right with those changing times or that's just a great default to overcome 500 old posts calling anything bigger than 3.5" (and later a 4") an abomination, "99.9% don't need big-screened phablets" etc.

In any event, it's some great spin. Rather than finding fault with Apple for not having changed with the times several years ago- and thus giving a lot of that bigger-screen business to rivals like Samsung- we simply spin this so that it seems like the overall landscape is shifting and "our" needs are shifting with it.

Sprinkle in a few "wait & see" comments, seg into "it's starting to grow on me" and then when accumulating rumors become reality at the launch ("now that I've got to actually see one"), it's "shut up and take my money" and "I'm already in line". All that negative "anything bigger than 4" is <negative descriptor> just evaporates. Once rumor becomes reality, Apple's choices are the new perfect and anything different than those choices are the new "stupid" and "abominations."

Personally, I like Apple stuff just fine but I'm deep in the "long past due" camp with this one. And after years of seeing overwhelming bashing of anything bigger than 3.5" and then 4" as "abominations", "stupid", "99.9% of phone buyers don't want", "need new pants" etc, I find it hilarious to see so many of the very same crowd seemingly accepting of the larger sizes, looking forward to adopting those abominations, not seeing them as "stupid" and apparently finding themselves in that .1%.

Most concerning though: I don't see the pants makers responding to the massive wave of demand for new pants with bigger pockets; instead, the same old pants with the same old pockets seem to still be on store shelves. Whatever are we going to do? ;)

I think many of the phone comments are due to the fact that those phones are not apple and would make it harder to go from iTunes to the non iPhone.
I do not want a huge phone but may make the move to the iPhone 5s or the 4.7 because it is an iPhone. I do believe the bigger pants comments are valid, after you've sculpted your body into shape, why would you want to wear baggy jeans? :) why don't we wait until the phones actually come out? :)
 
Are you kidding me? It goes both ways.

If anything wanting a bigger screen is having a mind of your own. Apple proclaimed both screen sizes of theirs the "perfect" size therefore the majority of Apple fans took it as gospel.

Nice ancient polls by the way. Those say nothing. Of course people didn't want a bigger screen because they didn't make them and people never tried them out. Once people actually had them in hand they go "Wow, this is actually really useful."

I mean saying you like something and sticking to that, irrespective of what's on offer IS having a mind of your own.

It's funny as usually I say I'd like something or want something.
I get shouted down here, saying it's wrong, dump stupid.
Later on Apple offer it, what I wanted and then it's great :)

I have said all along Apple will make a tablet that will be more like a full computer, perhaps a touch enabled OSX

I have always seen this as inevitable.

Way back even when iPad1 was out, and I was being told Noooooooo here.

My argument being really, ok, iPad was, and still is, too under powered to be a general purpose full computer to full full packages.

But, that won't last. What it Apple going to do, as the years go by and the iPad gets faster and faster? Are they going to insist on crippling what it can do, with a mobile phone OS, or will they eventually realize that hey, one thing can offer both uses.

I know some want a Apple version of Msoft Surface Pro 3 now.
And despite what some may say, because Apple don't make it.

If the Msoft Surface Pro, was the same machine it is now, but made by Apple and running OSX or IOS, we'd here people here going nuts about it.

I'm sure something like that has to come eventually.

Likewise we may eventually see an iPhone with a thin top bezel to make the phone as small as possible with the largest screen, even though that has been poo poo'd here also
 
"Customers know about and are interested in the next iPhone, with 74 percent of survey respondents stating they are aware of Apple's possible fall iPhone launch and fifty percent claiming they are interested in buying an iPhone for their next phone."

Where did they ask these questions? Outside an Apple Store?
 
what? what? Samsung Mega 6.3 ??
Pfeh. Pah! I say. Just push it out to 7" like Dell did with their Android something or other, "Streak" maybe? It was from before phablets became a thing, I think.

Came in two sizes, a 5" (mini-tablet) and 7" tablet. They included cellular and voice in both though. It was assumed that you would use a bluetooth headset to make and receive calls, but they included a receiver / microphone "in case you need it."

They had a video showing the 7" being used as a phone. And I said to my self -- That's a dinner plate! Who would buy it? And indeed very few did.
 
Im a current samsung note 3 user and definitely going to get iphone 6 5.5 screen size
Im on Verizon Edge plan expire on Nov 2014.
 
Pfeh. Pah! I say. Just push it out to 7" like Dell did with their Android something or other, "Streak" maybe? It was from before phablets became a thing, I think.

Came in two sizes, a 5" (mini-tablet) and 7" tablet. They included cellular and voice in both though. It was assumed that you would use a bluetooth headset to make and receive calls, but they included a receiver / microphone "in case you need it."

They had a video showing the 7" being used as a phone. And I said to my self -- That's a dinner plate! Who would buy it? And indeed very few did.

I do think that tablet and phones are going to become one and the same. Yes they will have 10" phones/tablets and you will use what you need. I could be wrong but that appears to be where we are heading...
 
The news of a bigger iPhone has definitely made me want an iPhone. I've always been an Android fan, and I tried out the 5S but it's just too tiny. I have man sized hands though so even my 5.2" LG G2 is a little small. I'm waiting for the 5.5"
 
And in a related story buyers shun $1229 iPhone

It was understandable that buyers paying the full price where the total cost of ownership was visible and could currently buy a 64GB iPhone 5S for $1129 (AUD) did not like the idea of spending another cent on a larger screen, because spending $1229 on an iPhone was unpalatable when that is more expensive than the $1199 128GB 13" Macbook Air.
 
I don't understand why or how people get their joy from being so condescending and insulting.

Shock, horror - people's opinions evolve over time. Two years ago I got the iPhone 5 and I thought that that was the biggest I would ever want. I thought it was cool that Apple had brought out a bigger phone but didn't think I would ever want something bigger.

Two years later, my usage on the phone has shifted and I've started consuming more and more pictures and videos, and I want more space to read, etc. So, surprise! I'm ready for a bigger screen. I imagine many people here are the same.

Yeah, there *are* people who just stick their heads in the sand and prefer whatever Apple does, but there are people who just stick their heads in the sand and prefer whatever other manufacturers do as well. I've seen a gradual shift on the forums over the last couple of years due to changing desires and usage, not this 'omg it's Apple I want it' that people so deride.

It's a bit tiring that some people seem to come to these forums seemingly only to mock and feel superior to other users. I can make up my own mind, thanks, and I'd prefer to stop being painted as only wanting something because it's Apple when I seriously debated getting the HTC One a year ago before deciding to go with the 5s.

(Also, I fall into the 4.7 camp, 5.5 is still far too big for my tastes and I've gotten to play with and hold a few phones that size.)

I'm not painting you with this brush.

It's funny, I have only seen, and do see with other Apple products, the tide of opinion starts to shift as soon as the 1st few realist mock ups start to appear and it become apparent that is the next model, then you can actually see the tide of opinion start to sway towards the new reality that's coming.

It's hard not to find it sad when Mr X mocks someone elses product due to one aspect of the product, and yet when it appears this same aspect it coming to their brand suddenly it's fine.

I find it hard not to find this funny as it happens again and again.

I want a larger iPad. I'd said so on these forums since the 1st day I unpacked my iPad1.
I've been shot down in flames for this on these forums.
I also want a 16:10 iPad and even posted screenshots show it would be better in both landscape and portrait.
Again I've been shot down in flames for such a suggestion.

Just because Apple do, or don't make it, does not alter my mind.
 
I said Apple is the #2 smartphone manufacturer in the world... and you compare them to a virtually unobtainable supercar?

Apple phones are relatively expensive... sure... but they clearly have no problem selling them.

You don't become #2 by having products that NO ONE can afford.

More iPhones are sold outside the US, btw.

And other companies sell phones that are equally expensive as iPhones.

This is the wrong perspective. You look at things through the lens of someone living in a first world nation who probably either buys his/her children iPhones or has had iPhone bought for them by parent etc. You represent an incredibly small sliver of the world's market.

99.x% of the population would never dream of spending hundreds of dollars more for an electronic device that provides no greater benefit to them in terms of providing livelihood than other competing devices do. The iPhone offers a much nicer user experience, often better camera, sleeker design, and general better quality than other telephones. But that stuff is completely unimportant to anyone who isn't living in a world of relative luxury. 99% of people pinch pennies day in and day out and the cost of an iPhone is basically vulgar to them. If an alternative has nearly the same functionality as an iPhone at a significantly lower cost, then they would be being Irresponsible to themselves and their families to buy an iPhone.

Apple is not adapting properly. They are not growing the iPhone's role in the world properly. The iPhone completely revolutionized phones beyond what hardly anyone could have ever conceived before it was introduced. Now it's time to bring it to the people. Imagine if Apple only ever mad Mac Pros. No iMacs. Just Mac Pros. Then almost no one would have ever discovered the possibilities that good design can bring to personal computers. Only 1%s would know. Only selling to 1%ers might not be the worst business strategy in the world, but it's not a good one or one that lives up to Apple's potential.

Apple's core motivation has always been to improve the world by bringing to it devices that make people's lives better. You are basically arguing that they should they are fine as they are right now only selling to the world's uber rich. But if you think back on it, you got introduced to what's great about Apple through ownership of a much more accessible Apple product. If all Apple had made back then were Mac Pros and $1000 telephones then odds are you'd never have found out what they are all about and therefore become an Android fanboy.
 
iPhone is not small, this is the normal size. 5.5" iPhone would be consider large.
Carrying large phone is cumbersome, but having 19" TV vs. 60" does not affect the portability unless you move your TV around in your house.

I prefer smaller screen phone but I would have largest TV I can afford.

Normal? For who? In the world of smartphones the iphone IS small. Phones have become portable computers and upsizing reflects that. Apple is just late getting to it.

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I think you’re ignoring the option to just not consume multimedia entertainment on the go. I have books for on the go entertainment.

Actually I am not, I have books on my iphone but it's a pain on something so tiny.
 
I'm sure they're rethinking that after Amazon's 32 GB minimum.

/s

Yeah Apple doesn't care what the competition is doing. It does what it thinks is right for its consumers. 16 GB is actually fine on the iOS, but for Android you need many gigabytes more because of all the bloatware pre-installed and that often cannot be deleted.

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I'm fine with a $100 increase as long as 32gig is the starting point and the screen is just as good. But knowing Apple their going to keep the 4.7" 16gig at $200 and charge $300 for a 16gig 5.5". If that's true I'm sticking with the Note series. No way I'm paying $400 for a 32gig phone on contract. I will never own a phone having just 16gig and non expandable memory.

It would be unreasonable expect to increase both the screen and storage capacity for $100. They may do it, but the focus should be on the size of the display driving costs.
 
Of course. One person hogs the big TV. The other two (roommates, SO, kids) don't want to watch what the person with the remote chose, so they 're watching their favorite show or video on smaller screen tablets. More mobiles than fixed wall mounts.

Most people with kids have multiple tv's, we have 3.

I doubt VERY seriously the amount of people watching tv on ipad's are even close to the amount watching on tv. Maybe in your house, but places like here in mexico most people don't even have smartphones, tv's yes. I doubt even in the US it's even close, most other countries not even mentionable. If you think everyone in the world has multiple ipad's or buys their kids ipad's you are also not close on that.
 
No

Am I the only person who does NOT want a bigger screen? Sheesh.

No, you don't want a bigger phone, but a bigger screen is okay.

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I think a lot of iPhone fans will finally discover what many other Android/WP users have long known:

1) Larger screens rock for everything. Email, games, browsing, video playback, reading, typing... etc. The list can go on and on. The benefits are great.

2) Using larger screen devices with one hand is not impossible, and in fact, quite manageable. You'll learn to adjust. Those that used to claim it's impossible will eat their words when they learn just how quickly they'll adjust.

3) Larger devices can still fit in pockets. Of course, the larger you go, the harder it'll be, but again, people will adjust.

4) There is no "perfect size" -- choice will be great. I do hope Apple continues offering a 4" option, though, for those who want to stay there. And ideally, a next-generation 4" option (not just the previous generation's 5S or anything). If not, people will just have to adopt to the trends if they want the latest.


Very much looking forward to the new iPhones.

Not so much...as 4" to 4.7". I used HTC One M7 and I'm okay with iPhone 5 screen since I don't see much the difference. However, I'll upgrade because my iPhone 5 is out of contract this Sep and can be traded in for at least $200. the 5.5" version does make the difference. But it's not one hand use and does not fit front pockets of my pants. I'll pass.

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I've been using a Galaxy Note since my iPhone 5 was destroyed in a car accident. It's big, to be sure, but not as bulky, once you get used to it. I'm quite ready to ditch it in favor of a 5.5in iPhone, as Android is definitely not my cup of tea.

LOL, Note is not bulky? Put it on your face to see if anyone can recognize you from the side...Be honest, man.
 
I'll have to wait for the 6s as I'm on a 2 year contract with my 5s.

As for screen size, I wouldn't mind a bigger one but do wonder if it would be a pain to carry day-to-day, wait and see how they stack up.

Guess this is the time of year (for those in the know) will be waiting for the new model and sales people are going to have a hard time shifting the current models. No one likes paying full retail just before something new comes out, especially electronics.
 
What a bogus article. The majority of respondents want a bigger iPhone, lol. How convenient that Apple will be releasing one in a few months. It would have been real reporting back when Apple released their last stretched phone but the fanboys couldn't bring themselves to report it then. If the new phone looks like the mockups it will again be a disappointment because it will not be proportional. Apple clings to the oversize bezels and mechanical buttons. The difference in how 4.7 screens vary is illustrated between the HTC One vs. the Moto X. The Moto X feels good in the hand, is proportional, but the HTC One feels too tall because in their case they have big speakers at each end of the bezel. I'm hoping that Apple gets it right.

It doesn't matter. It's not so much about the look, but performance and ecosystem. At the end of the day, it sells like hot cakes. Who cares about thin bezel on a massive phone which you can't even use it with one hand. HTC One has a thick bezels too, but because the screen is black and people don't see them.

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What about those of us who want a smaller phone? Will we be forced to go Android or Windows?

Stay with iPhone 5s. It's fast, it's reliable and beautiful. Why upgrade if you don't need larger screen?
 
Looks like virtually no one here will be buying the 5.5" one if it comes out then huh?

:)

Some people will, I'm sure. A lot of people are caught up in the oversized screen fad. I, for one, can't stand a phone which is that large. That's not comfortable and not practical for day to day phone use. But, I obviously have to wait and feel how Apple's version of an oversized phone feels to make a definitive statement. However, having experienced pretty much every size phone on the market, my experience tells me 4.7" shoudl be the limit of phone screen size.
 
this is a question for people who use a smartphone with bigger screen than 4.5"

If i have 1 hand busy, i can surface on my iphone with 4.7" or 5.5" with one hand, or can i make a call or answer ?

If you can't make a call or answer with one hand on a big phone, you probably hold it wrong...You have to hold it right like those Galaxy fanbois.
 

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I'm fine with a $100 increase as long as 32gig is the starting point and the screen is just as good. But knowing Apple their going to keep the 4.7" 16gig at $200 and charge $300 for a 16gig 5.5". If that's true I'm sticking with the Note series. No way I'm paying $400 for a 32gig phone on contract. I will never own a phone having just 16gig and non expandable memory.

don't come here if you want expandable memory in an iPhone because it never happened before and ever. Expandable memory is useless for apps. For media storage, there's a cloud for it.
 
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