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don't come here if you want expandable memory in an iPhone because it never happened before and ever. Expandable memory is useless for apps. For media storage, there's a cloud for it.

And if you have no network coverage you just errrr ?
 
I'm with you, but nope. The iPhone 6 (4.7 and 5.5 models) will be just a proportionally upscaled iPhone 5s. Complete with big hulking top and bottom bezels and wasted space. Unfortunately, those bezels and home button is what Apple now views as defining iPhone attributes, and will probably never change as long as we're still using handheld phones.

Apple will never completely redesign it at this point and reduce or removed those bezels. We've seen too many leaks to think it'll be anything different this time around.

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Not sure if a .7" difference in phone size between the 5s and 6, really validates your argument here?

What is the benefit of having thin bezels on top and bottom beside just for the look? Apple never modify something just for look. People want ridiculous thing like bezel-less or LED lit Apple logo or 4K resolution on a 5" screen...It's about performance and functionality, not for look if you want a Apple product.

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And if you have no network coverage you just errrr ?

Then what is the point of using a phone when you don't have network coverage ALL The Time? No carrier guarantees that you'll always have network coverage everywhere. So just accept the fact that no signal, no streaming...by the way 16GB can store a sh..it load of music files beside apps and other data. In fact, with only 3 GB for music you can play it non-stop for 3 days.
 
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This is the wrong perspective. You look at things through the lens of someone living in a first world nation who probably either buys his/her children iPhones or has had iPhone bought for them by parent etc. You represent an incredibly small sliver of the world's market.

99.x% of the population would never dream of spending hundreds of dollars more for an electronic device that provides no greater benefit to them in terms of providing livelihood than other competing devices do. The iPhone offers a much nicer user experience, often better camera, sleeker design, and general better quality than other telephones. But that stuff is completely unimportant to anyone who isn't living in a world of relative luxury. 99% of people pinch pennies day in and day out and the cost of an iPhone is basically vulgar to them. If an alternative has nearly the same functionality as an iPhone at a significantly lower cost, then they would be being Irresponsible to themselves and their families to buy an iPhone.

Apple is not adapting properly. They are not growing the iPhone's role in the world properly. The iPhone completely revolutionized phones beyond what hardly anyone could have ever conceived before it was introduced. Now it's time to bring it to the people. Imagine if Apple only ever mad Mac Pros. No iMacs. Just Mac Pros. Then almost no one would have ever discovered the possibilities that good design can bring to personal computers. Only 1%s would know. Only selling to 1%ers might not be the worst business strategy in the world, but it's not a good one or one that lives up to Apple's potential.

Apple's core motivation has always been to improve the world by bringing to it devices that make people's lives better. You are basically arguing that they should they are fine as they are right now only selling to the world's uber rich. But if you think back on it, you got introduced to what's great about Apple through ownership of a much more accessible Apple product. If all Apple had made back then were Mac Pros and $1000 telephones then odds are you'd never have found out what they are all about and therefore become an Android fanboy.

Apple sells $1000 computers in a world of $500 computers.

They sell $500 tablets in a world of $100 tablets.

And they sell $700 phones in a world of $70 phones.

That's their deal.

Does Apple cater only to the super rich? Not really.

But keep telling us what Apple is doing wrong.
 
I once tried Galaxy Note 3. I was very skeptical about phablets but once I get used to the size, I found myself carrying iPad much much less....I even felt like what's an iPad really needed for anymore....other than web browsing on bed.

iPads are not even in HD resolution. Gaming and movie watching experience was much better on the phablet.

5.5 inch isn't any way too big to carry around at all once you get used to it. There are so many things you can do on larger screen, especially when it has cellular data connection 24/7 unlike iPads (yeah I know you can subscribe to a carrier to get data connection on iPads, but most iPads sold are WiFi version).

I'm so happy that Apple gives users more choices in size! cant wait to try the 5.5 iphone!!!

Just my experience :D
 
I once tried Galaxy Note 3. I was very skeptical about phablets but once I get used to the size, I found myself carrying iPad much much less....I even felt like what's an iPad really needed for anymore....other than web browsing on bed.

iPads are not even in HD resolution. Gaming and movie watching experience was much better on the phablet.

5.5 inch isn't any way too big to carry around at all once you get used to it. There are so many things you can do on larger screen, especially when it has cellular data connection 24/7 unlike iPads (yeah I know you can subscribe to a carrier to get data connection on iPads, but most iPads sold are WiFi version).

I'm so happy that Apple gives users more choices in size! cant wait to try the 5.5 iphone!!!

Just my experience :D

The 5.5" will most likely be my next iPhone. But, I am not really thrilled that it could be bigger than the Note 3, based on mockups. Hopefully it isn't.
 
The 5.5" will most likely be my next iPhone. But, I am not really thrilled that it could be bigger than the Note 3, based on mockups. Hopefully it isn't.

GNote 3 is 5.7. So, no...iPhone 6 won't be bigger than GNote3, but it's still a phablet and big enough.

I also expect it will have superior battery life.
 
I really hope they'll give us 32GB of storage with the 5.5" phone as well for $299. That would sting a lot less. I'd hate to pay $399 to get a 32GB 5.5" phone. In CA we have to pay tax on the full price of the phone, so a $399 phone would be $475 (assuming it's full price is$849). I would still buy it because I want a large phone, but I would likely wait 3-4 years to upgrade again at those prices.
 
GNote 3 is 5.7. So, no...iPhone 6 won't be bigger than GNote3, but it's still a phablet and big enough.

I also expect it will have superior battery life.

Galaxy Note 3: 151.2mm x 79.2mm

iPhone 6 5.5" : 157mm x 81mm (based on mockups)

It will be close.
 
In CA we have to pay tax on the full price of the phone, so a $399 phone would be $475 (assuming it's full price is$849). I would still buy it because I want a large phone, but I would likely wait 3-4 years to upgrade again at those prices.

$475 spread out over 4 years?

Damn... you really get your money's worth.
 
Apple appears to have positioned itself to hit a home run with the new developer API's and features in iOS 8 in combination with the continuity features between iOS devices and Mac OS X Yosemite and a new phone with a larger screen. If iOS 8 delivers on what was shown at WWDC that brings it up to par with Andriod in terms of the software features that Android possess that would have caused me to seriously look at an Android phone as a replacement for my iPhone 5s. Ditto with the the larger screens. The continuity features are simply icing on the cake for those who have stuck with the Apple ecosystem.

I"m not going to count my chickens before they've hatched. There's always the possibility that they pull a Maps and deliver a sub-par product, but if iOS 8 works as advertised as do the continuity features between iOS devices and OS X Yosemite in terms of being able to initiate and receive text messages and phone calls from my iPad and Mac through my iPhone then I'm all in on the Apple eco-system again.

Yes the features and new API's in iOS 8 represent Apple catching up with Android rather than innovating but the laundry list of new features plus the new developer API's was basically a check list of features that I'd want in the iPhone to prevent me from looking at Android based alternatives this fall.

I wanted a slightly larger screen on my phone, I wanted better inter-application and application to OS communication so it's easier to take something done in one app and push that out to another and so the notification center allows for widgets that allow me to respond or take some action without having to launch the application in question, I wanted options when it comes to the keyboard, I wanted developers to be able to take Touch ID to it's logical next level.

Apple also introduced features I wanted that I didn't even know I wanted. The idea of allowing your phone to relay calls and SMS messages to other devices without a cellular connection is a great reward for existing customers invested in the echo system. Having iMessages shared across all devices is great but adding the ability to send / receive regular SMS messages and phone calls is awesome. The ability to pickup where you left off in Apple applications between devices is also awesome and if they successfully open the API's up to developers that will be even more icing on the cake!

If Apple can deliver on the promise of what it displayed at WWDC I'll be one happy camper who won't be considering switching to Android anytime soon.
 
I"m not going to count my chickens before they've hatched. There's always the possibility that they pull a Maps and deliver a sub-par product, but if iOS 8 works as advertised as do the continuity features between iOS devices and OS X Yosemite in terms of being able to initiate and receive text messages and phone calls from my iPad and Mac through my iPhone then I'm all in on the Apple eco-system again.

I don't think history will repeat. The early iOS 6 betas were really bad. It was like watching a train wreck occurring over a few months. iOS 8 doesn't feel like that.

Yes the features and new API's in iOS 8 represent Apple catching up with Android rather than innovating but the laundry list of new features plus the new developer API's was basically a check list of features that I'd want in the iPhone to prevent me from looking at Android based alternatives this fall.

It's almost as if Apple and Google had different priorities. Google needed a Project Butter, Apple didn't. Apple is finally concentrating on things that make iOS more enjoyable to use.

Apple also introduced features I wanted that I didn't even know I wanted. The idea of allowing your phone to relay calls and SMS messages to other devices without a cellular connection is a great reward for existing customers invested in the echo system. Having iMessages shared across all devices is great but adding the ability to send / receive regular SMS messages and phone calls is awesome. The ability to pickup where you left off in Apple applications between devices is also awesome and if they successfully open the API's up to developers that will be even more icing on the cake!

I've wanted a share button in a web browser for a long time. This could be possible cross platform minus the iMessage integration. Having a share button is sooooo useful on a desktop.
 
This is the wrong perspective. You look at things through the lens of someone living in a first world nation who probably either buys his/her children iPhones or has had iPhone bought for them by parent etc. You represent an incredibly small sliver of the world's market.

99.x% of the population would never dream of spending hundreds of dollars more for an electronic device that provides no greater benefit to them in terms of providing livelihood than other competing devices do. The iPhone offers a much nicer user experience, often better camera, sleeker design, and general better quality than other telephones. But that stuff is completely unimportant to anyone who isn't living in a world of relative luxury. 99% of people pinch pennies day in and day out and the cost of an iPhone is basically vulgar to them. If an alternative has nearly the same functionality as an iPhone at a significantly lower cost, then they would be being Irresponsible to themselves and their families to buy an iPhone.

Apple is not adapting properly. They are not growing the iPhone's role in the world properly. The iPhone completely revolutionized phones beyond what hardly anyone could have ever conceived before it was introduced. Now it's time to bring it to the people. Imagine if Apple only ever mad Mac Pros. No iMacs. Just Mac Pros. Then almost no one would have ever discovered the possibilities that good design can bring to personal computers. Only 1%s would know. Only selling to 1%ers might not be the worst business strategy in the world, but it's not a good one or one that lives up to Apple's potential.

Apple's core motivation has always been to improve the world by bringing to it devices that make people's lives better. You are basically arguing that they should they are fine as they are right now only selling to the world's uber rich. But if you think back on it, you got introduced to what's great about Apple through ownership of a much more accessible Apple product. If all Apple had made back then were Mac Pros and $1000 telephones then odds are you'd never have found out what they are all about and therefore become an Android fanboy.

Are you OK there buddy?

How are you going to compare a Chinese manufactured , sold in Walmart and Target phone, with a luxury exotic sports car. Are you even trying to make a serious comparison?

Sorry but your "luxurious" iPhone is a mass produced phone that has bugs, defects, like any other smartphone. Stop acting like its some premium device.. Its no different from other phones. Galaxy note 3 is even more expensive for the base model.

According to your post, what I've gathered is that America is a super rich country and every other country in the world is dirt poor and starving.

You wanna make luxury car comparisons. Then talk about Vertu. Because the Apple comparison is a joke.
 
Yes, obviously they are not going to make it bigger.

Then why say it? Pointless annoying hyperbole.

So same size at worst? Yeah, same size as a phone that came out 8 years ago.
:rolleyes:

No. The bezel on the 5/5s is smaller than previous iPhones. So if it remains the same it will be two years old.
 
No, if you look at the graph, it says 36% of people are like you. If you were the only person who did not want a bigger screen, those two segments would be very, very skinny. ;)

/facepalm

The power of dramatic effect is lost on this one.
 
Not sure, if we're necessarily disagreeing here...since I agree with many of your points.

But to point out a few things. Apple did provide no choice. Yet the users had the choice to switch to Android. My point was, the user didn't think the switch to Android (need for a larger screen) out weighted the benefit of sticking with Apple.

"out weighted" - seriously? Not a phrase in the English language. Also, 'user didn't switch' is not supported by facts. You seem to think you know the mindset of iPhone 4/5 users.

...But also, many did find the smaller size "perfect" for much longer than how Android users perceived as the "perfect" size.

Once again, you seem to be a mind reader.

Apple and many of its users didn't feel the need for a larger screen until much later than Android.

We got ourselves a Kreskin.

So, I believe we're mostly saying the same thing that Apple is late and is reacting to market trends. It just that I don't see the late response as being hypocritical or Apple loosing is innovative edge.

You're actually not coherent, while the poster you're replying to is. 'loosing'?

Apple fanbois, ftw

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don't come here if you want expandable memory in an iPhone because it never happened before and ever. Expandable memory is useless for apps. For media storage, there's a cloud for it.

Streaming media is great when you're somewhere without a data connection, or with a limited data plan ... :rolleyes:
 
Your argument is bunk because people have wanted a larger iPhone for years.... BEFORE apple decided to pull their head out of their butts and give it to us.

This is probably correct. Until we answer his question, john123 is the only person of 7+ billion who doesn't want a larger screen.

Am I the only person who does NOT want a bigger screen? Sheesh.
 
This is exactly why Apple do not do focus groups. People only think they know what they want now. But tomorrow or years in the future, people have zero idea of what they want. People are like I never thought I would need X Apple product but now I do not know how I lived without it.

So I think if people think they want a phablet, that is fine. But we all should be hoping this does not factor into Apple's decision making process. But somehow I think it is based on the recent rumours. And it is a major shame and disappointment But even Apple screws up right? Now might be one of those screw ups if they indeed release a phablet.
 
Are you OK there buddy?

How are you going to compare a Chinese manufactured , sold in Walmart and Target phone, with a luxury exotic sports car. Are you even trying to make a serious comparison?

Sorry but your "luxurious" iPhone is a mass produced phone that has bugs, defects, like any other smartphone. Stop acting like its some premium device.. Its no different from other phones. Galaxy note 3 is even more expensive for the base model.

According to your post, what I've gathered is that America is a super rich country and every other country in the world is dirt poor and starving.

You wanna make luxury car comparisons. Then talk about Vertu. Because the Apple comparison is a joke.

You've basically gathered correctly. If you have not lived in a different country, then it's probable that you do not have a good sense of how unusual America is. For example, you probably would feel like you were living in poverty if you didn't have a washer and drier or air conditioning. Almost no one in countries outside of the US have those. Even extremely relatively wealthy families. You basically are a 1%er with respect to the rest of the world. When I and other Europeans look at Apple's iPhone, we see Apple having the same attitude. Meanwhile, Samsung is opening stores in every shopping center, their ads cover entire buses and trains everywhere, and the general sentiment is that "Samsung gets us and is one of us." Meanwhile, Apple sits in its ivory tower talking about green power and celebrity employees, thinking the world want to buy $1,140 telephones from them.

If you go live in a different country, you will see that 99.x% of people almost exclusively purchase things that are necessities. Some of them may consider it a necessity to be able to Facebook on a telephone and view web pages and use 3rd party software application. Those people buy smartphones. Some of them here may still be spending twice as much for the Apple one because they have loyalty from iPods and iMacs that had been accessible and lovable from back in the Steve Jobs days of yore. But those people will slowly forget about Apple and fall into the hands of Samsung, Huawei, etc. You can count on it. It's visible in the sales numbers already.
 
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Put me down for the larger 5.5 inch display. Apple is almost 2 years late with the bigger screens.

Note 2 came out in fall 2012. Let's go already!
 
I think a lot of iPhone fans will finally discover what many other Android/WP users have long known:

1) Larger screens rock for everything. Email, games, browsing, video playback, reading, typing... etc. The list can go on and on. The benefits are great.

2) Using larger screen devices with one hand is not impossible, and in fact, quite manageable. You'll learn to adjust. Those that used to claim it's impossible will eat their words when they learn just how quickly they'll adjust.

3) Larger devices can still fit in pockets. Of course, the larger you go, the harder it'll be, but again, people will adjust.

4) There is no "perfect size" -- choice will be great. I do hope Apple continues offering a 4" option, though, for those who want to stay there. And ideally, a next-generation 4" option (not just the previous generation's 5S or anything). If not, people will just have to adopt to the trends if they want the latest.


Very much looking forward to the new iPhones.

Current LG G2 user here. disagree with every point except the last one.
 
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