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iPhone 6 Interest Remains Strong as Consumers Look to Larger Displays
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Most people in Western Europe have compact washers but not dryers and only 1%ers have air conditioning at home. They have heat (hot water radiators since Gas from Russia is cheap) but not cooling -- they use open windows. Needless to say, they are much better off than most of the rest of the world.
I live in one of the richest countries in Europe and the climate doesn't require AC in the home outside of the hottest summer months, so here basically none has AC in the home. In some cities it's actually forbidden to have AC in a building even if you want it unless you get a special authorization, due to environmental and energy consumption policies.
Washers and driers are ubiquitous but if you live in a rented flat it's very likely that you have to use the shared laundry: installing your own washer is typically forbidden. Quality of the equipment there can vary a lot...
I agree. I have had an iPhone and I miss it tremendously because it was designed to use with one hand. Because iPhones are so expensive (other than in the USA where they are subsidized), I felt I could not justify purchasing one the last time I bought a telephone. Instead, I bought a phone that is quite excellent but has a 4.3" screen.
I find the disadvantages of the larger screen to be very great and the advantages to be very small. In particular, it's very annoying how much more difficult the phone is to use with one hand. With the iPhone I never realized that I was doing everything with one hand. With the slightly larger phone I immediately realized that, several times a day, I have to stop what I am doing (e.g., put down my food, put down my briefcase, compose my whole body such that both arms can be oriented to manipulate my phone). With a phone that can be easily operated with one hand, it is possible to do stuff "on the go" much more.
Meanwhile, the only benefits of the larger screen are basically that I can hold it 10% farther from my face when closely looking at photos and that I have to scroll around 10% less on the rare occasion that I want to use my phone as a computer.
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Driers may be ubiquitous in northern western europe, but they are quite rare in the rest of Europe. Americans have generally never even seen a clothes drying rack. No European hasn't.
So after releasing the same design for how long, the next innovation they came up with is a bigger screen? And a fitness app? Lol
We're like 2 years behind. Whats next? Some type of accessories that goes on ur wrist with a small screen that can take phone calls?
And let me guess, the iphone 7 will have air gestures?
And the iphone 7 mega note will have a smart pen?
We're like 2 years behind. Whats next? Some type of accessories that goes on ur wrist with a small screen that can take phone calls?
And let me guess, the iphone 7 will have air gestures?
And the iphone 7 mega note will have a smart pen?
i do not look at contract prices anymore , i never consider carrier contracts anymore.
buying outright for sure, no matter the cost.
buying outright for sure, no matter the cost.
Then dont buy it?
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Citation? Pretty sure most people who get a smartphone still need to call and text.
You're clearly a troll, but I challenge you to explain how Apple's competitors are beating them on innovation.
The old 5s already gets an almost 50% higher geek bench score than its competitors. It's almost scary how much faster the 6 is going to be than anything else out there, since Apple has routinely drastically increased performance with every iteration.
Meanwhile, the others are still clunkier, cheaper feeling even on models that are the same price, using Gorilla Glass and struggling to figure out a way to get remotely as effective fingerprint recognition.
Even after 7 years of hordes of knock-offs, Apple is STILL the leader that everyone else copies.
You say all of that... which I agree with... but earlier you questioned why Apple's phones are expensive?
You're right... Apple's phones are scary fast. Why? Apple has 1,000 engineers working on microchips. But that talent costs money. It's also an engineering miracle that they can cram so much stuff in a sleek package. Which again... costs money.
Apple sometimes buys companies and integrates their technology into their products too. TouchID is a great example of that. You're right... Apple seems to have finally perfected fingerprint-recognition technology... while everyone else is seriously lacking. But that costs money.
Plus... Apple has their own software that needs to be factored into the price of the phone. Apple makes their own operating systems... rather than other smartphone manufacturers who rely on Google to do it for them.
Again... that costs money. Apple's software engineers don't work for free.
So you can say that Apple's phones are expensive... and even prohibitively expensive in some markets based on the socio-economic climate in those markets.
But it's not without merit... it's simply the cost of doing business.
Apple makes a great product... and they charge an appropriate price for it.
Sorry I do get mindless with my spelling. Not sure why you're being so condescending about my post. As I am agreeing Apple is late to the trend. And I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I must be called an "Apple fanbois."
And I'm not totally sure if you're actually understanding anything I said.
Are you saying no one stayed with the iPhone despite wanting a larger size (some not all iPhone users wanting a larger screen - fact), when Android phones started making them available? Are you saying, at that time, no one decided to stick with the iPhone because either it was a hassle to switch over to Android, or the preference for iOS outweighed the switch to a bigger Android phone, despite wanting a bigger phone? (At least, I know I did) I certainly didn't say every iPhone user "didn't switch" as I clearly said people did "gradually switch over time" (a fact) right after that statement. My point simply was that some iPhone users didn't switch despite Android offering larger screens, because the switch didn't outweigh whatever benefit/convenience of staying with the iPhone provided. And that's part of the reason why I said Apple and it's users were less urgent/resolute in needing a larger phone (late to the trend). The phone was good enough for them (even people wanting a larger screen were happy enough, and Apple was certainly happy as they were making tons of money regardless of not providing a larger phone) despite some wanting a larger phone in the early days.
Why do you think many iPhone users are recently being increasingly vocal about wanting a larger phone? I'm simply explaining why they're wanting a larger screen yet not switching to Android. Is this idea that radical? What facts do I have to state? And why am I a mind reader over this? Is it not the very idea that those people prefer iOS over a larger screen Android phone a major reason? I'm strictly speaking about current iPhone users demanding a larger screen if it already wasn't clear to you
Apple and the users not feeling the need for a larger screen until much later than Android is evidenced by the recent change in Apple's attitude and increasing change in tone of the Apple users. What's so hard to understand?
The original poster's post was solely over this recent change. All I had to do was read articles about the recent change in attitude of Apple, and notice more people being vocal in the forms. Mind reader? no, just reading what's out there.
The argument with the original posters was not when Apple and its users changed their tone, but over how we differed over the perception of the recent change. I repeatedly agreed Apple and its users were late, and so did the original poster, hence, he was sarcastic over the recent change in attitude toward larger screens (His whole point being how Apple dictates what's perfect to mindless Apple users, and that people only now want a larger screen since Apple is rumored to release one or two).
Again, I don't think you understood my point and just went ahead and decided to make a snark remark over "loosing" (yes, I should proof read). If anything, you're not being "coherent" with your understanding of my post. That was simply in line with my argument that Apple and it's users recent change in stance is not something one should necessary see as a mocking point. Yes, Apple was late to react, but its because many of the users were happy enough with what they had, despite some (again I never said all) wanting a larger screen.
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I never said Apple phones are overpriced. I said they are too expensive for normal people outside of the artificial market (subsidized phones) in the USA. There is nothing wrong or shameful or anything else about that. But Apple will get clobbered more and more in the markets that contain the other 95% of the world's population.
Fewer and fewer people get exposure to Apple products to see what they are all about. They're coasting on good will earned back in the Jobs days where they made affordable devices that inspired generations of consumers. Try to sell an iPhone to a kid whose every friend is completely content with a phone that costs half as much and he'll laugh in your face. Try to do it again when he's a professional and he'll still laugh in your face -- in order for people to know what makes Apple products great, they need to be exposed to the experience of using them. The iPod and it's various smaller and more affordable variants did this before. Now there is nothing doing it.
Apple needs an accessible telephone to introduce the world's new generations to the benefits of the company's innovative capabilities. Instead, they want to only sell to 1%ers. That's not how Apple got their success. They're throwing away the hearts and minds of 95% of the world's population. They're forgetting how they got what they have.
Actually.... 15% of smartphone sales around the world are iPhones... so it's obviously a lot higher than 1%
There are smartphones that retail for $70 in some parts of the world. Apple will never be able to compete at that price point... nor do they want to.
So... how low should they go?
And... how much of their own ideals are they willing compromise to hit that price point?
You want more people to get the "Apple Experience" and I understand that.
But if Apple made a cheap garbage phone... they wouldn't get that experience.
It's the same reason Apple's laptops start at $1,000 when there are other laptops available for 1/3 of that price. Apple offers things that other companies don't have. Software is the main thing. Integration is another. They control the entire ecosystem... hardware, software, cloud, etc.
They're the only ones with OSX on computers and iOS on mobile. And they charge appropriately.
You're worried about Apple getting clobbered by other companies... you might want to take a closer look at those other companies.
Apple and Samsung are the only two companies making ANY money in mobile... so it appears that all those cheap phones aren't quite the trophy you think they are.
A 1%er is someone who is in the top 1% of income. I have no idea why you are talking about % of smartphone market figures.
The Mac Pro is an amazing machine. Do you consider Apple iMacs to be garbage?
The iPhone 5s is the nicest phone in the world. You really think Apple is incapable of making a phone that isn't garbage and that people who are not 1%ers could afford? Of course they can.
You are looking at current sales figures and thinking everything's dandy. I'm telling you that outside of the USA they are not. Apple is becoming more and more like Vertu. They're rapidly losing the hearts and minds of the people who they worked hard to earn with products like the iPod, iPod mini, iMac -- products that were accessible to normal people. Meanwhile, Cook wanders around his Bay Area Bubble talking about solar power plants and celebrity charity events. And Samsung eats Apple's lunch. Come over to Europe and see for yourself.
The Mac Pro is an amazing machine. Do you consider Apple iMacs to be garbage?
The iPhone 5s is the nicest phone in the world. You really think Apple is incapable of making a phone that isn't garbage and that people who are not 1%ers could afford? Of course they can.
You are looking at current sales figures and thinking everything's dandy. I'm telling you that outside of the USA they are not. Apple is becoming more and more like Vertu. They're rapidly losing the hearts and minds of the people who they worked hard to earn with products like the iPod, iPod mini, iMac -- products that were accessible to normal people. Meanwhile, Cook wanders around his Bay Area Bubble talking about solar power plants and celebrity charity events. And Samsung eats Apple's lunch. Come over to Europe and see for yourself.
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iOS 8 family sharing limitations?
This is unrelated to the topic but I finally decided to give my wife imac/iphone/ipad her own AppleID on her devices. I will link her AppleID to my AppleID when iOS8 is out so we can share apps/music/TV/movies purchased.
My question is this: Can I link my father AppleID to ours if is home address is different than ours?
This is unrelated to the topic but I finally decided to give my wife imac/iphone/ipad her own AppleID on her devices. I will link her AppleID to my AppleID when iOS8 is out so we can share apps/music/TV/movies purchased.
My question is this: Can I link my father AppleID to ours if is home address is different than ours?
It's normal for everyone else who doesn't want bigger screen. Just because you want it doesn't mean everyone wants bigger phones.
Hmmm...Germany...lack of funding? I strongly doubt that. (Same goes for all of northern Europe with well above average incomes)
Lack of exposure to tech? As any new iPhone (and most Android Models) are released on the same day as in the US that somehow seems to be a very weak statement.
So while being among the richest countrys in the world and having the choice between all sorts of phones last quater android sales was somewhere in the 75% range (+/- 1 or 2 %, can't find the link to Kantar report).
Even though I do personaly own an iPhone (and with the larger ones on the horizon have dropped my plans to switch to Windows or Android) your comment lacks facts but boasts prejudices...weak
Now I know you're not ok.
You're kidding me right? You think countries outside the US don't have AC, washers, etc.?
I've lived in other countries and their lifestyle is the same as the US. AC, Washer, daily Starbucks, etc.
Stop living in a delusional world.
And for the millionth time, stop acting like Apple products are some luxury item. They're a run of the mill, cheaply produced product from China's sweatshop's sold in Walmart. Yeah, real luxury.
Apple is still the leader that everyone copies?
Yeah, that's why for the past few years Apple has played catch up. Widgets, notifications, etc. and now the soon to be large screen phablets. Yeah real leader.
There IS NO normal sized, there is only the size preferred by the individual, period.
Fixed this for you.
"Just because you want it doesn't mean everyone wants miniature phones".
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The US and europe is not the whole world. It gets below freezing here and pretty much nobody has heat, not even stores. No ac. Few where we live have washing machines, it's done by hand and I know of nobody that has a dryer. The government here admits that over 300000 in the state where we live do not have electricity, their numbers are always low.
There's a HUGE amount of people living the same way and it's not just a small part of the world. I think these are the people the poster referred to, NOT the us and and Europe. Do you really think the world only consists of the US and europe? White people are not the only people in the world.
I've been to probably 12 countries and most are the kind the poster referred to.
Someone is certainly delusional if they think the majority of people in the world have these things. Clearly you have no knowledge of the world outside if the US, canada and better parts of europe.
Premium... but
If there are 2 sizes, 4.7 and 5.5, I'd pay the premium for the 5.5
But all models would need to have at the very least:
32GB
NFC
Sapphire screen
better battery
better camera
just to stay at the same price. Otherwise apple should Lower the price.
lower the C model another $100, Lower the 4.7 to $100 and keep the 5.5 at the same price.
That would Rock Samsung
As for thickness, I would rather it not be any thinner that the 5S is now. specially for the 5.5. that's just asking for a snapping.
If there are 2 sizes, 4.7 and 5.5, I'd pay the premium for the 5.5
But all models would need to have at the very least:
32GB
NFC
Sapphire screen
better battery
better camera
just to stay at the same price. Otherwise apple should Lower the price.
lower the C model another $100, Lower the 4.7 to $100 and keep the 5.5 at the same price.
That would Rock Samsung
As for thickness, I would rather it not be any thinner that the 5S is now. specially for the 5.5. that's just asking for a snapping.
Apple likes your support and willingness to pay anything to acquire their latest trinket.