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iPhone 6 May See Only Modest Battery Capacity Boost as Apple Pursues Ultra-Slim Designs
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The 5s does ok when it's a new, fresh device. But unfortunately, as I'm sure we've all experienced, it's battery life gets worse over time.
This is due to a combination of several reasons:
- iPhone's battery degrades and loses its capacity quite quickly as it ages. MacBooks and iPads don't seem to have this problem nearly so badly, so perhaps it's due to the small size of the battery. Only fix is to replace the battery every 12 months or so.
- Various databases on the phone, for things like location tracking, grow continuously and seem to consume more background CPU over time. This can be worked around by restoring the device to factory state periodically, but that's a pain and we shouldn't have to do it.
- Each new OS release runs slightly slower and demands a little more CPU, resulting in reduced battery life. This is something they've addressed in Mac OS: Mountain Lion actually had better battery life than its predecessors. So, it would be good if Apple could pay more attention to this in iOS.
- As you install more apps, more background tasks start running and the CPU drains quicker. Can be worked around by keeping as few apps as possible on the phone, or disabling background app refresh.
standby or talk, based on what conditions of use? Media, photo video, calls, text etc etc etc...
As I do not know what industry standard of tests they use to state battery life, that is a rather impossible question to answer in your generalist terms.
get a life people
I was at bar this weekend watching world cup. Per usual lots of iPhone sitting on counter and lots of people fixated on their phones. Had this been 2010, I would be more forgiving.
Has the novelty worn out? If not, it should.
It is time to live life. It is time to participate and talk to your fellow neighbors who happen to sit next to you. The only people that should be using smartphone excessively in public spaces are teenagers and those were too poor to have one a few years ago when it was a novelty.
Using smartphone in public spaces is passe. It is time to grow up.
I was at bar this weekend watching world cup. Per usual lots of iPhone sitting on counter and lots of people fixated on their phones. Had this been 2010, I would be more forgiving.
Has the novelty worn out? If not, it should.
It is time to live life. It is time to participate and talk to your fellow neighbors who happen to sit next to you. The only people that should be using smartphone excessively in public spaces are teenagers and those were too poor to have one a few years ago when it was a novelty.
Using smartphone in public spaces is passe. It is time to grow up.
Your not very good at reading at all are you? If you read things properly you would see I did NOT make any statement about battery life, YOU did.
I said:
Are the words Battery and Life in there? Don't think so..
But it is still pathetic.
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I think it's time you stepped into the current century.
Who are these mysterious "some" who are wondering if Apple is keeping the battery too small. How about a link to a source?
Not cool, MacRumors. You drop this reference in as if there is an actual source, but it appears to be something you guys just made up.
Nah apples next innovation will be
Keynote
phill steps on stage
This is the new iPhone 1.9 look how thin it is our engineers have done an amazing job
oohs and aahs sound throughout the auditorium
after a few minutes of specs phill leaves but turns back to utter those immortal words
There's one more thing
the crowd claps and cheers as everyone's hair stands on end apart from those who no longer posses any they just look at others jealously
With this new iPhone were introducing a new charging technology. It's so amazing. Your going to die for it.
What we've done is we can now take the charge from your body and use it to charge iPhone
cheers go up people stand , this is truly a momentous moment
giving us unparalleled 3 day battery life! Yes you heard 3 days of heavy use between charges
as is usual when Apple give something special they quietly follow up by taking something away, usually your money for some feature and so
When you use this amazing feature your life force is reduced. iPhone 1.9 is available today
in amongst the cheers and standing ovation
What did he say?
3 day battery life dude, apple rocks!
No the other bit at the end?
Available today, go get
everyone rushes out, apple stores are packed
iPhone sales rocket but the following week on macrumours something is amiss
Forum posts report.....
I bought my wife an iPhone and she didn't charge it for 3 weeks,now she's dead. I couldn't be happier.
I wish my wife would use an iPhone.
I lost my husband and 2 kids, apple must pay!
Apple killed my family with their life draining iCrap Android I love you
main news section runs story
Headline
iPhone helps people unhappy with life.
Many people who are unhappy with life are buying iPhones surfing the web and dying happy whilst reading their favourite sites. Surveyed at apple stores many say they plan to buy iPhone to watch porn and die happy.
Why not show the more recent Galaxy S5 review instead of a review that came out 9 months ago if your goal is to compare the competition? You will see that Samsung made a decent jump in battery life when comparing the S4 and S5 and the S5 beats out all the iPhones. Even the review you have listed shows that the older iPhone 5 beats the iPhone 5s in some test. Not comforting that Apple regressed in some spots.
There's nothing wrong with skinny jeans. But knowing toolbag dudes on the other hand...
Comical
All of the whining and hand wringing going on here over battery CAPACITY is comical. You have NO IDEA what the battery LIFE will be yet.
I travel as part of my job, use an iPhone 5 constantly and have no qualms whatsoever about it's battery LIFE. I am NOT a wall hugger. I plug in when convenient but only when absolutely convenient. This includes when my MacBook Pro is open in front of me or should I happen to be next to a plug. I certainly don't worry about it.
I carry a $17 battery case (fully charged) in my back pack that I bought on Amazon. It weighs next to nothing and on the rare occurrence that I need it, it charges my iPhone 5 back to 100% with battery to spare. I have NO BATTERY anxiety.
A larger battery is not a technological challenge. It is an easy thing to do but it requires no break throughs. It doesn't advance the technology football down field. Lighter, thinner, faster devices require Apple to constantly innovate WRT processors, construction materials, screens and software. Look what they have done with the MBP and MBA. The battery life is FANTASTIC and so is the performance and form factor.
Chill out and let Apple innovate. Oh, and spend $20 on a battery case or separate battery and relax.
All of the whining and hand wringing going on here over battery CAPACITY is comical. You have NO IDEA what the battery LIFE will be yet.
I travel as part of my job, use an iPhone 5 constantly and have no qualms whatsoever about it's battery LIFE. I am NOT a wall hugger. I plug in when convenient but only when absolutely convenient. This includes when my MacBook Pro is open in front of me or should I happen to be next to a plug. I certainly don't worry about it.
I carry a $17 battery case (fully charged) in my back pack that I bought on Amazon. It weighs next to nothing and on the rare occurrence that I need it, it charges my iPhone 5 back to 100% with battery to spare. I have NO BATTERY anxiety.
A larger battery is not a technological challenge. It is an easy thing to do but it requires no break throughs. It doesn't advance the technology football down field. Lighter, thinner, faster devices require Apple to constantly innovate WRT processors, construction materials, screens and software. Look what they have done with the MBP and MBA. The battery life is FANTASTIC and so is the performance and form factor.
Chill out and let Apple innovate. Oh, and spend $20 on a battery case or separate battery and relax.
This is slightly absurd.
But don't you see? It's thinner. That makes up for everything -_-
Apple should really get their priorities straight.
But don't you see? It's thinner. That makes up for everything -_-
So what exactly does your "pathetic" refer to? The weather? Homegrown tomatoes? What exactly is the consequence of using a "2500 mah battery in a 5.5 device" that you call it "pathetic"?
Ahuh... >_>
Except a thicker battery could = 20-30%+ more battery life, and that's pretty important to most people.
Again... ahuh <_<
Except Samsung's done it, and you don't need to control your own hardware to code for efficiency.
Enough with the over-engineering. Practicality is nice, too.
It'll be really nice to have a super slim phone so I can pay more to have a case with a built in battery to make it extra fat!
There are AA batteries with 2800mah. I own several sets to use with my Speedlite.
Make me a special Fat iPhone that's 1 inch thick with a 1000% increase in battery life. I find skinny phones more difficult to hold than fat phones. Give me the 2 week standby, 24 hours talk time of dumb phones of old.
There are better battery technologies out there. Apple had rather buy Beats, and other things that don't concern many of us, than invest in commercializing new lithium or silver batteries.
They wait for these industries to do the hard work, instead of heavily investing their 100's of billions into something we actually want/need.
An 8nm shrink will yield improvements but the larger screen will use that yield. Apple is just being Apple (a "for profit" company). They give as little as possible so you will want to buy the iPhone 6S, 7, etc. Can't blame them for that part but you can for them not using their war chest to innovate or revolutionize anymore.
They are stagnant in innovation and have been for a while. Google/Android makes some dumb devices and choices but they are at least trying and I can't fault them for that. Google and their OEM's are creating some really neat stuff that Apple scoffs at but that's a huge mistake.
My opinion.
Going to a bar to watch the World Cup is passé. How do I know this? Using the same logic you used: Lots of people were doing it, so it must be unfashionable.
Grow up and do something different. Don't watch sporting events in public. You don't want to be like THOSE people, do you?
Yes, but you are missing my top preference. I don't want to put a case on my phone that makes it twice as thick. Is that hard to understand? I want 50% or 100% better battery life without having to add additional layers to my phone. It seems reasonable that the phone could be made maybe two or 3 mm thicker and make the battery that much bigger because of how much of the phone is not battery.
I did not say that. In fact, I was unhappy with the feel of the five model after the solid and substantial feel of the four models. I would love it if the six with the same thickness and Heft as the four.
Only history tells me that that won't happen. Every year they have come out with a newer phone with a slightly larger battery, and in the end I get the same amount of life out of it. By about four in the afternoon I have maybe 20% remaining if I don't charge it as the day proceeds.
Your turn. What evidence do you have that this year, the eighth model of iPhone will be different than each of the seven that came before it? You sound very confident so you must have some reason other than your wild ass guess.
I would love to know what makes you confident about that, since you just described what has happened with every previous iPhone model, and the battery life has never gotten significantly better than the previous version. And after seven versions of minor differences up or down, we are basically where we were back then as far as overall usage time for my typical usage.
You left off the largest contributor to battery life: the user. No two individuals will have the exact same experience unless they are set up exactly the same and have the exact same use case.
Heavier device is a bit of a technical cop out to me. Yes it may be heavier technically but we are talking about a few grams not kilos. It's the same with thickness. Throughout this thread I've seen a ton of "I don't want a thick phone". An iPhone 6 at 7.6mm is not thick by any stretch of the imagination. An iPhone 6 at 7.6mm, with the larger sizes could accommodate a larger battery with little impact on the weight. Couple that with the things I bolded from your comment and that could be a win that most could live with happily. Although, it would probably give the marketing department a bit of consternation since they couldn't use the ubiquitous 'thinnest iPhone ever'. I think most would be okay with that.
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In the end no one is going to "win" this "debate" or whatever it is.
Some people will sacrifice a thinner design to have a bigger battery.
Some people will sacrifice a bigger battery and try to rely on general technological optimizations to have a thinner design.
In the end there will be people who have valid points for both sides. Yet still in the end Apple will never make everyone happy. Apple is going to disappoint some people if they have to admit they made the device "thicker" and they will disappoint some people if they make it thinner without improving the battery life significantly.
I myself have never had an issue with the battery life on the phone and Apple has qualified me as a "heavy user" when I got to see a printout of my battery usage graph. That is just me though. We all have different demands. If I ever need to have better battery life I will just use a case designed to give me some extra battery. Besides if it just gets thinner then those cases won't feel as hefty.
But I also understand that people would want to sacrifice a bit of a thin design, and it is certainly arguable if you can tell a difference in your hand without knowing, for a larger battery. They are valid too.
In the end no one is going to win this and people are still unhappy. There will also be the people who want a thinner device, those who want a large battery and those who simply have unrealistic demands for a battery.
Just my take on it. Don't feel that there is a right move or a wrong move here for Apple.
Some people will sacrifice a thinner design to have a bigger battery.
Some people will sacrifice a bigger battery and try to rely on general technological optimizations to have a thinner design.
In the end there will be people who have valid points for both sides. Yet still in the end Apple will never make everyone happy. Apple is going to disappoint some people if they have to admit they made the device "thicker" and they will disappoint some people if they make it thinner without improving the battery life significantly.
I myself have never had an issue with the battery life on the phone and Apple has qualified me as a "heavy user" when I got to see a printout of my battery usage graph. That is just me though. We all have different demands. If I ever need to have better battery life I will just use a case designed to give me some extra battery. Besides if it just gets thinner then those cases won't feel as hefty.
But I also understand that people would want to sacrifice a bit of a thin design, and it is certainly arguable if you can tell a difference in your hand without knowing, for a larger battery. They are valid too.
In the end no one is going to win this and people are still unhappy. There will also be the people who want a thinner device, those who want a large battery and those who simply have unrealistic demands for a battery.
Just my take on it. Don't feel that there is a right move or a wrong move here for Apple.