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iPhone 6 might only have 1GB of ram.
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Same here. 2GB is the absolute minumum.
The next Android flagships will have at least 4GB, the current flagships have 3GB. All this BS about how iOS is better coded and doesn't need as much RAM, pfft. These browser webpage refreshes, and app refreshes are already a hindrance to people who actually use their devices as a smartphone. iOS8 is going to be an even bigger tax on resources; each new version of the Apple o/s has historically been so and if we need more RAM right now, what does the next 24 months of ownership hold for us? An iPhone 6 with 1 or 1.5GB of RAM would be a dead duck. If Apple want to leave the tech race and just cater for fashionistas then fine, but they can definitely count me out.
They'll optimize for sure. I think The android spec phones are a paper gimmic. Daily use is more important.
Yeah, I used to be a gullible fool and bought into that way of thinking. I woke up.
Apple needs more ram!
I am sick of losing my data when the site refreshes when i come back to it. We are talking about only having two forums open. Thats just not gonna cut it
I am sick of losing my data when the site refreshes when i come back to it. We are talking about only having two forums open. Thats just not gonna cut it
It seems the amount of ram in a phone will drive your next purchase. For me, I look at the total package and for that, IOS is the clear winner, even with less ram than the competition.
I'm not saying purchase based on ram is right or wrong, I do not think the majority base a purchase decision of a smartphone on that one criteria alone.
Nothing at the moment.
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That's exactly what he is talking about. For daily use the constant refreshing of apps gets super annoying!
You've got it wrong. If RAM was the only box I needed ticking, I would have been using an Android phone for years. My iPhone 5 ownership along with iOS7 has taught me that iPhones have too little RAM, and if the iPhone 6 doesn't address this then I shall be jumping ship.
I have many boxes which need ticking but RAM is the one thing severely crippling the iPhone experience, for me and many others.
There is something to be said about this.
Android doesn't use RAM for their browser like iOS does. So 1 gb of RAM and you can have 30 tabs open and switch between them without a refresh. I made a response video to someone with an iPad Air showing the tab refreshing issue with an old Motorola Xoom (1gb RAM).
http://youtu.be/utBPbRVpRD8
Excuse the music, like I said it was a response video so I just opened Pandora so it was running in the background. But thats the stock browser and as you can see there is no refreshing.
Point being Android doesn't suffer from that problem regardless of RAM.
Which leads the question, which one is actually coded better? Or at least coded better for a better user experience?
I returned my iPad Air due to safari refreshing and crashing (crashing seems to have been fixed with iOS 7.1) but it interrupted my work flow so much I just went back to my iPad 3. Which isn't much better but at the time was more stable.
Interesting... are you sure Android does not store its tabs in RAM? There many Android browsers... Chrome could be storing it in RAM.
I think he means that Android doesn't use as much RAM for the browser, it is better coded.
Chrome is considered a stock browser.
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Way too many people on this forum claim that the iPhone 4 runs iOS7 perfectly well. They appear to have amnesia. It was lightning fast on iOS4 and 5. iOS6 slowed it down greatly, and iOS7 killed it.
" If Apple want to leave the tech race and just cater for fashionistas then fine, but they can definitely count me out."
This lead me to believe RAM is the only box that needed ticking.
Honestly, I'm not sure.
However I know I can have a ridiculous amount of tabs open and they will not refresh. Now if I leave the app, open up a bunch of other apps, then return they will all refresh obviously because the browser closed like it would in iOS.
This leads me to believe its storing data for tabs somehow else because I should be able to do the same thing on an iPad Air with the same amount of RAM. Maybe its cacheing the tabs to local storage temporarily or something. Thats the part I'm not sure about.
IOS 5 is to IOS 7 as Windows 3.1 is to Windows 7. The iphone 4 was never "lightning fast", IMO, so we have a different definition/perception of performance.
However, given we have a different definition of performance and I do not think the iphone 4 is "dead" under IOS 7. Far from it. In fact, apple gave the iphone 4 new life by supporting the phone for how many years?
Seriously, they gave the iPhone 4 new life?
They made an immediate upgrade in hardware essential for most i4 users. A device which was previously ok suddenly became frustratingly slow and tiresome. I gave my father my old iPhone 4 and he was extremely happy with it. Once iOS7 installed, he hated it. Bear in mind that he had nothing to base his opinion on other than his own experience of the same device running the previous o/s. He has never used an iPhone 5, or a 5S. Nor has he used any iPads. No modern tech is clouding his judgement.
And you will be back after you see that even with 3GB of ram, Galaxy devices run bloated software that lags and is overall slower and less responsive than the iPhone. I gave up on Samsung's junk when they put out the S4. Terrible build quality and too much bloatware. Tried one more time with the Note 3 and it was no better.
Sammy can put 8GB of ram if they want but they still can't cover up the laggy mess that is touchwiz.
Apple designs their software in a way that allows their devices to run much more efficiently on lesser specs. This is across the board whether it's an iphone 5S, and iPad Air, or a Macbook Pro.
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This exactly!
It always gets me when Apple users complain about a lack of product support or software updates. Really? Apple is phenomenal in updating their devices.
Try counting on a single software update for an Android device. If you are lucky, you may get one. When you finally get that update, chances are it's long after the update actually should have come, and the carrier has gone in and added all of their bloat. You will also need to do a hard reset on the device and lose a lot of your data because rarely does a software update on an android device not mess something up.
As a service technician at a major carrier for over 4 years, I fought for Android and tried to steer people away from the iPhone because Android devices had "better specs" or were "less locked down." It wasn't until I finally used an iPhone for myself and realized that it runs circles around any android as far as fluidity, battery life, and ease of use. Not to mention guaranteed software updates for a least 2 to 3 years and customer support from Apple with NO CARRIER BLOATWARE. It's the little things that Apple does. Knowing your phone, tablet or computer will be supported for several years makes a world of difference for consumer confidence. People seem to overlook that. Android has always been a fragmented mess. This used to be easy to avoid by rooting and installing custom roms and such but now that carriers have locked that down, it's more bloatware and more of a mess.
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Biased much? My partner's Android device flies, there is zero lag. Fastest device I ever used.
As for Apple 'supporting' devices, I don't call slowing them down to the point where you want to toss them into the nearest recycling bin as being in any way 'supportive'.
What? No.
The iphone 4 is perfectly acceptable, IMO, with IOS 7.1.2. You may be the type of person that is unhappy with your M5 because your Bugatti is just so much faster.
Granted, we all have our own biases based on our experiences, but I don't agree that IOS 7 killed the i4. Far from it.
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I can't speak for anyone other my two i4's, but they run perfectly acceptably with ios 7.1.2. Certainly no more bias than I've seen from other posters.
Very biased due to using and working on a wide range of products, and understanding that Apple's software is superior across the board. Some Android devices are much better than others. It's all in the software. My wife has the original HTC ONE (M7) and I would say it's the overall best android device I have used. That being said, it still has to constantly be managed to see what is draining battery. Something is wrong when android devices have three times the power of an iphone, yet still can't match it's performance.
I have not used the iphone 4 with iOS7 so I cannot personally comment on its performance. It is very possible that they should not have given that update to the ip4. But at that point, are we then criticizing them for supporting their devices for too long?
So having to wait almost a year before 7.1.2 reduced *some* of the lag experienced with iOS7 is acceptable to you? Myself and countless others think that the iPhone 4 runs like a dog on iOS7. It didn't run like a dog previously, no new features worth a damn have been added to the o/s and somehow this is all extremely 'supportive' from Apple? Thankfully I don't use an i4 but on principle it still stinks. That device should never have made the upgrade program.
IOS 7.0 wasn't great, I'll grant you that, but the release after that, smoothed out the issues on the i4.
Who are these "countless others" to which you refer? Taking a bit of license there? eh.
I guess I can safely say, IOS 8 won't add any features, worth a damn. In fact, I wonder if any IOS upgrade added any features worth a damn? Worth a damn is clearly a relative observation.
You are comparing specs when you say how good iOS updates are on the iPhone 4. It's just another number to say "oh look at me I'm still supported by Apple". What good is an update if it does include the features of that update (Siri, Navigation, 3D flyover, picture during video, etc etc). The iPhone 4 has gotten all of the cons (slowness) with none of the pros (features).
Contrast to Android, features are updated from Google via the App Store. So if maps gets an update it doesn't matter the version number of the OS. You still get the features included with that update.
To be fair we should be comparing Nexus type devices as well. And I'll use my Motorola Xoom as an example. It was the first Android tablet. Not only does it still have great feature support but went from Honeycomb to Jelly Bean including the project butter update. I've been happy with it's support.
Btw I'm not saying iOS updates are bad, just Androids is different and has it's benefits too.
I never said that iOS8 won't have new features worth a damn. I was specifically speaking of iOS7 on the iPhone 4. It brought positively *nothing* to the table except lag and frustration. Name me one benefit of iOS7 over iOS6 for iPhone 4 users which in ANY way compensated for the crippling lag?
On these boards, an many iPhone 4 users have slated iOS7 performance as have praised it.