iPhone 6 might only have 1GB of ram.

[capathy21]

You are comparing specs when you say how good iOS updates are on the iPhone 4. It's just another number to say "oh look at me I'm still supported by Apple". What good is an update if it does include the features of that update (Siri, Navigation, 3D flyover, picture during video, etc etc). The iPhone 4 has gotten all of the cons (slowness) with none of the pros (features).

Contrast to Android, features are updated from Google via the App Store. So if maps gets an update it doesn't matter the version number of the OS. You still get the features included with that update.

To be fair we should be comparing Nexus type devices as well. And I'll use my Motorola Xoom as an example. It was the first Android tablet. Not only does it still have great feature support but went from Honeycomb to Jelly Bean including the project butter update. I've been happy with it's support.

Btw I'm not saying iOS updates are bad, just Androids is different and has it's benefits too.

I do agree that comparing stock Android devices to Apple is a much closer race. I also commend Google for pushing direct updates such as Maps, hangouts etc without having to go through the carrier. That helped a ton.

The last Android phone I spent a lot of time with was the Nexus 5. It wasn't "bad" but it left a lot to be desired. Battery life was terrible and I just didn't feel like having to flash a new kernel or rom to get decent battery life.

There are some things that Android does better, but IMO, the iOS experience is far better for the things that matter most such as battery life, smoothness of operation, and reliability.

It's my opinion and there are millions that disagree.

 

[I7guy]

I never said that iOS8 won't have new features worth a damn. I was specifically speaking of iOS7 on the iPhone 4. It brought positively *nothing* to the table except lag and frustration. Name me one benefit of iOS7 over iOS6 for iPhone 4 users which in ANY way compensated for the crippling lag?

On these boards, an many iPhone 4 users have slated iOS7 performance as have praised it.

What did ios 5 bring over ios 4? Name a few features. What did ios 6 bring over ios 5? Name anything that "I" would think is worth it.

IOS 7 brought new camera functionality, background multi-tasking, icloud activation, great new and fresh interface, 64 bit, m7 support(which benefits fitness apps). I can't think of anything else. I think this stuff is certainly "worth a damn" and did not cause any crippling lag in my circles. You may not think this stuff is worth anything. Certainly your opinion.

Now your turn with 4 to 5 and 5 to 6, and then I get to comment on whether they are substantial enough.

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I do agree that comparing stock Android devices to Apple is a much closer race. I also commend Google for pushing direct updates such as Maps, hangouts etc without having to go through the carrier. That helped a ton.

The last Android phone I spent a lot of time with was the Nexus 5. It wasn't "bad" but it left a lot to be desired. Battery life was terrible and I just didn't feel like having to flash a new kernel or rom to get decent battery life.

There are some things that Android does better, but IMO, the iOS experience is far better for the things that matter most such as battery life, smoothness of operation, and reliability.

It's my opinion and there are millions that disagree.

There are 500 millions iphones sold, so I'm sure there are a lot of varied opinions.

 

[cynics]

I do agree that comparing stock Android devices to Apple is a much closer race. I also commend Google for pushing direct updates such as Maps, hangouts etc without having to go through the carrier. That helped a ton.



The last Android phone I spent a lot of time with was the Nexus 5. It wasn't "bad" but it left a lot to be desired. Battery life was terrible and I just didn't feel like having to flash a new kernel or rom to get decent battery life.



There are some things that Android does better, but IMO, the iOS experience is far better for the things that matter most such as battery life, smoothness of operation, and reliability.



It's my opinion and there are millions that disagree.

No argument here. I prefer iOS to Android. Good to see others can see out of Apples walled garden though.

 

[dad29236]

What a bad news only 1GB it is not sufficient

 

[legioxi]

Something tell me the iPhone 6 4.7" will only come with the same 1GB of ram the 5S did and 2GB saved for the 5.5" version, if this end up being the case will you still go for the 4.7" version?

I assume they'll go the same way they did with the iPad. Only size/resolution will be different.

 

[sunking101]

I assume they'll go the same way they did with the iPad. Only size/resolution will be different.

Only the fashionistas will buy it then, and no Android users will swap over. 1GB of RAM is only around, um, two years behind the times.

 

[jrswizzle]

It won't happen - the iPhone 6 will have 2GB of RAM. Look at iPhone history and the amount of RAM in each iteration. Doubled every two years over the last 4 years.

 

[I7guy]

Only the fashionistas will buy it then, and no Android users will swap over. 1GB of RAM is only around, um, two years behind the times.

Is that why the 5s is faster than almost every other android phone?

 

[sunking101]

Is that why the 5s is faster than almost every other android phone?

It isn't the speed, it's webpage and app refreshing. The system is borrowing RAM all the time from background processes because there isn't enough to go around.

 

[I7guy]

It isn't the speed, it's webpage and app refreshing. The system is borrowing RAM all the time from background processes because there isn't enough to go around.

I'm okay with the memory allocation methods of iOS. I do wish apple would allow a page file in user memory.

 

[legioxi]

Only the fashionistas will buy it then, and no Android users will swap over. 1GB of RAM is only around, um, two years behind the times.

To be up front, I don't plan on buying the 6 to replace my 5S, unless it overs Voice + Data on Verizon like many other handsets.

With that said, short of running out of RAM, there is no reason to add more. I've yet to have issues with either my iPhone or iPad due to RAM. I suppose one could brag about a stat even though it seemingly doesn't make the phone faster than the iPhone.

I've used Android phones, in fact I've bought many of them over the years. I've also used Android tablets, owned 2 or 3 of them. I was a die hard Android fan until I bought my 4S. The two things Android lacked at the time, and still does, is quality apps (subjective I am aware) and no UI lag.

I still try out Android phones to give them a chance but not one has shown either issue to be fixed. You can add in all the candy you want (swappable storage/batteries, widgets, openness, etc), but usability is the primary factor behind my purchase of a phone or tablet.

Phones/Tablets I've owned, all with lag:
HTC Incredible
HTC Eris (spelling/brand?)
HTC Aria
Motorola X
Motorola Atrix
Motorola DROID RAZR
Motorola Droid 2 Global
Motorola Xoom
Motorola Flipside
Samsung Note
Samsung Galaxy S3
Lenovo ThinkPad Slate

And a few others I don't recall the names to. For all the extra batteries, storage cards, etc I had for them, it never was worth the UI lag or poorly designed apps.

Since buying an iPhone, I went from 2-3 phones a year trying to find one without lag, to 1 every 1-2 years only for new features. Currently the only feature I desire over my current 5S is Voice + Data on Verizon.

 

[lovewd]

Why would it need more that that though? You only need 2,3 Gb of ram if your OS is a dog. Hence why samsung phones have so much ram

 

[Meister]

I just noticed that there are ram threads about iPhones

Now that takes ram threading to a whole different nonsense level.

My iPad has 256mb ram, my mini has 512mb and my girlfriends mini and iPad2 also 512mb.

What on earth are you people doing on a ****ing phone that would require 2gb of ram?

 

[capathy21]

To be up front, I don't plan on buying the 6 to replace my 5S, unless it overs Voice + Data on Verizon like many other handsets.

With that said, short of running out of RAM, there is no reason to add more. I've yet to have issues with either my iPhone or iPad due to RAM. I suppose one could brag about a stat even though it seemingly doesn't make the phone faster than the iPhone.

I've used Android phones, in fact I've bought many of them over the years. I've also used Android tablets, owned 2 or 3 of them. I was a die hard Android fan until I bought my 4S. The two things Android lacked at the time, and still does, is quality apps (subjective I am aware) and no UI lag.

I still try out Android phones to give them a chance but not one has shown either issue to be fixed. You can add in all the candy you want (swappable storage/batteries, widgets, openness, etc), but usability is the primary factor behind my purchase of a phone or tablet.

Phones/Tablets I've owned, all with lag:
HTC Incredible
HTC Eris (spelling/brand?)
HTC Aria
Motorola X
Motorola Atrix
Motorola DROID RAZR
Motorola Droid 2 Global
Motorola Xoom
Motorola Flipside
Samsung Note
Samsung Galaxy S3
Lenovo ThinkPad Slate

And a few others I don't recall the names to. For all the extra batteries, storage cards, etc I had for them, it never was worth the UI lag or poorly designed apps.

Since buying an iPhone, I went from 2-3 phones a year trying to find one without lag, to 1 every 1-2 years only for new features. Currently the only feature I desire over my current 5S is Voice + Data on Verizon.

Perfectly stated.....

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What on earth are you people doing on a ****ing phone that would require 2gb of ram?

This is great! I literally laughed out loud at work and got weird stares from co workers...

 

[cynics]

I just noticed that there are ram threads about iPhones

Now that takes ram threading to a whole different nonsense level.

My iPad has 256mb ram, my mini has 512mb and my girlfriends mini and iPad2 also 512mb.

What on earth are you people doing on a ****ing phone that would require 2gb of ram?

On a 512mb device of yours, load up an app like tapatalk and go into it a couple levels. Home button to the foreground, open the camera app and take a picture or video. Go back to tapatalk and watch it reload and start over.

This is why Apple added more RAM. If it didn't actually need it there is no way Apple would have supplied it.

Now we are at the point where 1 gb isn't enough just like 512 wasn't 2 years ago and 256mb wasn't 4 years ago.

 

[adnbek]

Nobody needs more than 1GB of RAM in an iPhone. Why? Because Apple controls the hardware and software experience - and iOS is the most resource efficient mobile operating system on the planet.

Nonsense. As efficient as iOS is, more RAM is not a bad thing especially as more apps start to take advantage of 64-bit SoCs and as iOS itself keeps evolving.

How much RAM do you have installed on your computer? Only 1GB right, since no one needs more?

 

[I7guy]

Nonsense. As efficient as iOS is, more RAM is not a bad thing especially as more apps start to take advantage of 64-bit SoCs and as iOS itself keeps evolving.

How much RAM do you have installed on your computer? Only 1GB right, since no one needs more?

I have 12 gig and could go to 24 gig. However, this is a desktop workstation running all sorts of heavy stuff and meant to be expandable in terms of memory, cpu and video capability.

While more memory is always better, I would not buy an iphone 6 simply because they released it without as much memory as I would like.

 

[sunking101]

I have 12 gig and could go to 24 gig. However, this is a desktop workstation running all sorts of heavy stuff and meant to be expandable in terms of memory, cpu and video capability.

While more memory is always better, I would not buy an iphone 6 simply because they released it without as much memory as I would like.

Even though RAM is crucial? So what would it take for you to not want the iPhone 6?

 

[T5BRICK]

I assume they'll go the same way they did with the iPad. Only size/resolution will be different.

The iPad Air and iPad mini have the same resolution. I imagine the new iPhones will follow this trend.

 

[Meister]

On a 512mb device of yours, load up an app like tapatalk and go into it a couple levels. Home button to the foreground, open the camera app and take a picture or video. Go back to tapatalk and watch it reload and start over.

Ok. Basically you need a lot of ram on a phone if you want to multitask.
That does make sense.
I usually run one or two apps at a time and thats fine for me, but i do get that to avoid the refresh more ram is needed. Just depends on you needs.

 

[cfedu]

What did ios 5 bring over ios 4? Name a few features. What did ios 6 bring over ios 5? Name anything that "I" would think is worth it.

IOS 7 brought new camera functionality, background multi-tasking, icloud activation, great new and fresh interface, 64 bit, m7 support(which benefits fitness apps). I can't think of anything else. I think this stuff is certainly "worth a damn" and did not cause any crippling lag in my circles. You may not think this stuff is worth anything. Certainly your opinion.

Now your turn with 4 to 5 and 5 to 6, and then I get to comment on whether they are substantial enough.

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There are 500 millions iphones sold, so I'm sure there are a lot of varied opinions.

64 bit OS did wonders for the iPhone 4, it was the only reason I put iOs 7 on my iPhone 4

 

[sunking101]

64 bit OS did wonders for the iPhone 4, it was the only reason I put iOs 7 on my iPhone 4

The iPhone 4 isn't a 64 bit device, so a 64 bit compatible o/s will have zero benefit. In fact, quite the opposite when it comes to the iPhone 4 - it slowed the device down to a snail's pace for the best part of a year, and it was only slightly improved by 7.1

 

[I7guy]

Even though RAM is crucial? So what would it take for you to not want the iPhone 6?

I wouldn't be interested in the i6 if the upgrades are less than substantial as compared to the 5s for my needs.

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64 bit OS did wonders for the iPhone 4, it was the only reason I put iOs 7 on my iPhone 4

You installed the 32 bit version of iOS 7 on your phone 4 as the 5s was the first 64 bit hardware on the face of the earth in mobile phones. That apple supported the iPhone 4 so many years after introduction is amazing and the hardware runs IOS 7 fairly well says a bunch about how apple designs their phones. I have two iPhone 4 running 7.1.2 without issue.

Are you satisfied with iOS 7 on your iPhone 4?

 

[cynics]

64 bit OS did wonders for the iPhone 4, it was the only reason I put iOs 7 on my iPhone 4

Hmm?

iOS and apps are compiled for 32 and 64 bit. The iPhone 4 doesn't utilize 64, neither does the 4S, 5 or 5C.

Plenty of reasons to put iOS 7 on an iPhone 4 but that's not one of them.

 

[I7guy]

Ok. Basically you need a lot of ram on a phone if you want to multitask.
That does make sense.
I usually run one or two apps at a time and thats fine for me, but i do get that to avoid the refresh more ram is needed. Just depends on you needs.

iOS really doesn't multitask in that sense. The issue as I understand from these forums, is when IOS frees memory current work is lost.