iPhone 6 might only have 1GB of ram.

[itjw]

Sweet!

We're playing the "these are my assumptions and I'm basing them solely on my bias and nothing else just to troll responses" game!?!?

Count me in!

Android users are NERDS. Capital N NERDS! They live in their basement with their twin size mattresses flat on the floor and eat mac and cheese (when mom makes it) all day! They are computer hakerz that pwn things (like their cat), and never see a girl (that's not in World of Warcraft that is).

I can go on? This is AWESOME.

1GB is PLENTY for most users. You know how I base that? On the fact that the 5S has literally crushed any single model of Android in sales, 3GB or not. That, coupled with the fact that no one has a gun to your head forcing you to buy an iPhone (meaning you could CHOOSE to leave anytime you want to, but you still don't) means that even the minority of users that it DOES affect don't care enough to DO anything about it (other than whine on an internet forum).

But hey, as long as they're Apple users they're intelligent, attractive, wealthy people, so who really cares right?

 

[sunking101]

Sweet!

We're playing the "these are my assumptions and I'm basing them solely on my bias and nothing else just to troll responses" game!?!?

Count me in!

Android users are NERDS. Capital N NERDS! They live in their basement with their twin size mattresses flat on the floor and eat mac and cheese (when mom makes it) all day! They are computer hakerz that pwn things (like their cat), and never see a girl (that's not in World of Warcraft that is).

I can go on? This is AWESOME.

1GB is PLENTY for most users. You know how I base that? On the fact that the 5S has literally crushed any single model of Android in sales, 3GB or not. That, coupled with the fact that no one has a gun to your head forcing you to buy an iPhone (meaning you could CHOOSE to leave anytime you want to, but you still don't) means that even the minority of users that it DOES affect don't care enough to DO anything about it (other than whine on an internet forum).

But hey, as long as they're Apple users they're intelligent, attractive, wealthy people, so who really cares right?

Fords outsell Rolls Royce and Ferrari. Your point is?

 

[LizKat]

Still having only 1GB RAM would not be a deal breaker for me.

Pretty sure it would not for most others either.

Most users on the street wouldn't be able to tell you any of the specs their iPhone has other than storage size, because they picked that when they bought it

A small minority of users like Forum readers and geeks keep up with that stuff, but most users do not IMO, they just use their iPhone without giving it much thought

So true... then there's an even smaller minority that is so old that we remember having to write code that compiled into 32K modules to run on mainframes that took up half a city block and put out so much heat it was a tossup whether the AC or the juice to run the thing cost more. I remain so amazed and grateful for tech that fits in a pocket and outguns those ol' things ten million to one without getting hot.

 

[I7guy]

Sweet!

We're playing the "these are my assumptions and I'm basing them solely on my bias and nothing else just to troll responses" game!?!?

Count me in!

Android users are NERDS. Capital N NERDS! They live in their basement with their twin size mattresses flat on the floor and eat mac and cheese (when mom makes it) all day! They are computer hakerz that pwn things (like their cat), and never see a girl (that's not in World of Warcraft that is).

I can go on? This is AWESOME.

1GB is PLENTY for most users. You know how I base that? On the fact that the 5S has literally crushed any single model of Android in sales, 3GB or not. That, coupled with the fact that no one has a gun to your head forcing you to buy an iPhone (meaning you could CHOOSE to leave anytime you want to, but you still don't) means that even the minority of users that it DOES affect don't care enough to DO anything about it (other than whine on an internet forum).

But hey, as long as they're Apple users they're intelligent, attractive, wealthy people, so who really cares right?

Omg, I was rolling on the floor as I read that. #

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So true... then there's an even smaller minority that is so old that we remember having to write code that compiled into 32K modules to run on mainframes that took up half a city block and put out so much heat it was a tossup whether the AC or the juice to run the thing cost more. I remain so amazed and grateful for tech that fits in a pocket and outguns those ol' things ten million to one without getting hot.

IBM system/360. Nuff said.

 

[coldjeanzzz]

The way I look at it, Apple isn't going to release a new device that isn't capable of performing with flying colors. So if they feel that 1 GB of RAM is still more than enough to provide a great experience for years to come with their software and that holds true when who cares how much RAM is in it?

 

[cynics]

More like first hand experience. I'm using it now. 2GB of RAM but 1.5 GB always occupied by bloatwares. I had better multitasking experience with iphone 5 running iOS 7.



"Premium Android" is kinda an oxymoron. Getting more RAM, more pixels, bigger screen, bigger battery, more gimmicky softwares, without optimisations. Sounds like a treat.

I'd hardly call what iOS is doing compared to what modern Android devices do "multitasking". Generally just bringing down the notification shade stops whatever I'm doing lol.

And you just described the iPhone 6 with your second paragraph. When the 6 comes out is all that stuff still sarcastically a treat?

 

[sunking101]

The way I look at it, Apple isn't going to release a new device that isn't capable of performing with flying colors. So if they feel that 1 GB of RAM is still more than enough to provide a great experience for years to come with their software and that holds true when who cares how much RAM is in it?

Their kit doesn't provide a truly great experience with a paltry 1GB now, so how will it with even more powerful hardware 'for years to come'?
I care how much RAM is in it, because I am presently limited by the amount of RAM contained in iPhones.

 

[cynics]

iPhone 6 might only have 1GB of ram.

Here my take on it. Let's forget the competition and what they are doing for this discussion for a moment.

If we compare the iPad 2 to the iPad 3 both running iOS 7 seems like a fair argument since the retina display on the 3 gives it the power of the 2 pretty much.

If you start loading apps from scratch you'll find the 3 retains those apps suspended states longer as you open more apps. It's pretty obvious why if you look at a memory usage app.

As far as battery goes just compare the 4S and 5C. Even with LTE, bigger screen and pretty much better everything including more RAM with a very similar sized battery other advancements give it as good/better battery life.

I don't see a reason why anyone would not want a bit more RAM. It's only a benefit to the consumer.

Comparing to Android and spitting out specs and benchmarks is a scapegoat statement by a fanatic.

Apple will do what they do and it won't effect my buying decision however I want as much as they can cram into it for now and future updates. I think that's reasonable wouldn't most people here agree?

 

[mjschabow]

This thread has become annoying.

I don't really care how much RAM the new iPhone has as long as the RAM can handle the software/multitasking etc...

And I believe Apple will make sure that the new iPhone isn't a laggy device.

 

[I7guy]

This thread has become annoying.

I don't really care how much RAM the new iPhone has as long as the RAM can handle the software/multitasking etc...

And I believe Apple will make sure that the new iPhone isn't a laggy device.

This exactly, there will always be the edge cases where an iPhone will run out of memory due to "200" tabs being opened. I think apple focuses on the "80/20" rule.

 

[sunking101]

This exactly, there will always be the edge cases where an iPhone will run out of memory due to "200" tabs being opened. I think apple focuses on the "80/20" rule.

Mine reloads daily with only a few tabs open.
With iOS6 I also experienced reloads, and that only had a maximum of 8 tabs.
So why did Apple increase the number of available tabs in iOS7 if the hardware can't actually handle that many?

 

[mjschabow]

That's so weird. I have never once experienced this reloading.

 

[sunking101]

That's so weird. I have never once experienced this reloading.

I can be on a webpage and typing something (a forum post or a website form etc), I can then move to another tab to Google something or nip to look at the Calendar, and when I return to what I was typing the webpage will reload. I'll then obviously lose everything I typed.

Or I can be reading an online newspaper and be 3/4 of the way down a lengthy page, only for the page to reload and take me to the top again.

This has happened to me - regularly - on two different iPhones and three different versions of iOS.

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I doubt this rumor....

What rumour?

 

[mjschabow]

I can be on a webpage and typing something (a forum post or a website form etc), I can then move to another tab to Google something or nip to look at the Calendar, and when I return to what I was typing the webpage will reload. I'll then obviously lose everything I typed.

Or I can be reading an online newspaper and be 3/4 of the way down a lengthy page, only for the page to reload and take me to the top again.

This has happened to me - regularly - on two different iPhones and three different versions of iOS.

Oh wow. The iphones I've used have been generally new, so I wonder if this is something that happens over time.

 

[sunking101]

Oh wow. The iphones I've used have been generally new, so I wonder if this is something that happens over time.

My i5 did it out of the box. Worse than the previous i4, but that also did it. I do tend to have more browsers open on my i5 though, so that probably explains it. I rarely have more than 10 open at a time however, and that is far less than the maximum iOS permits.

 

[wilky76]

What do you do that you need 10 browsers opened at once ?

 

[iOSaddict]

I'd hardly call what iOS is doing compared to what modern Android devices do "multitasking". Generally just bringing down the notification shade stops whatever I'm doing lol.

And you just described the iPhone 6 with your second paragraph. When the 6 comes out is all that stuff still sarcastically a treat?

I already know I will have a better experience on it. Whatever Android phone to be released in the next year will just offer the same experience, in particular more RAM but also more gimmicky bloatwares to weigh it down. Yay

And obviously you're being a bit hypocritical when you're belittling multitasking on iOS, yet overlooking the fact that Android's allegedly more supreme multitasking is just an elusive myth to the majority of Android users who buy non-nexus phones.

 

[sunking101]

What do you do that you need 10 browsers opened at once ?

Plenty. I'm always researching things, and always browsing. The design spec on iOS6 allowed 8 tabs to be open simultaneously, and iOS7 allows 24 or something (I haven't had that many open). So if 24 are allowed, and I tend to use 7-10, then what's the issue? Apple obviously aren't providing hardware which can match their software requirements.

 

[I7guy]

Plenty. I'm always researching things, and always browsing. The design spec on iOS6 allowed 8 tabs to be open simultaneously, and iOS7 allows 24 or something (I haven't had that many open). So if 24 are allowed, and I tend to use 7-10, then what's the issue? Apple obviously aren't providing hardware which can match their software requirements.

Or, they intended it to operate this way, for you only.

 

[sunking101]

Or, they intended it to operate this way, for you only.

If 24 tabs are on offer, then you should be able to use 24 tabs, no? Why offer something the paltry onboard RAM can't handle?
If 8 tabs was the maximum (*even they reloaded), then why increase the number to 24?
You're making excuses for Apple again.

The iPhone is only capable of light web browsing due to the minimal RAM. How many people use more than one tab on their Macs or pcs? Should a smartphone not be able to handle similar, with only the screen size being an issue (to some)? Apple provide the capability for us to use up to 24 tabs, so if having less than 10 open causes page reloading due to a lack of RAM, then that is an Apple issue and not a user issue.
It's like a car having a six speed gearbox, but only three of the gears work correctly and the other three are a bit 'iffy'. The car is designed for town use but marketed as being an autobahn cruiser. All those iPhone owners who are 'light users' may be the target audience for Apple iPhones, but if this is the case then the devices shouldn't be marketed as premium smartphones.

 

[I7guy]

If 24 tabs are on offer, then you should be able to use 24 tabs, no? Why offer something the paltry onboard RAM can't handle?
If 8 tabs was the maximum (*even they reloaded), then why increase the number to 24?
You're making excuses for Apple again.

The iPhone is only capable of light web browsing due to the minimal RAM. How many people use more than one tab on their Macs or pcs? Should a smartphone not be able to handle similar, with only the screen size being an issue (to some)? Apple provide the capability for us to use up to 24 tabs, so if having less than 10 open causes page reloading due to a lack of RAM, then that is an Apple issue and not a user issue.
It's like a car having a six speed gearbox, but only three of the gears work correctly and the other three are a bit 'iffy'. The car is designed for town use but marketed as being an autobahn cruiser. All those iPhone owners who are 'light users' may be the target audience for Apple iPhones, but if this is the case then the devices shouldn't be marketed as premium smartphones.

Apple said 24 tabs is supported. Nowhere did I read the o/s would never reload a safari tab.

I have three or four tabs open and often am answering a macrumors post whilst doing other things on the phone. I can't say my half written posts were ever reloaded.

So while I believe it happens to you, others don't see the same.

 

[sunking101]

Apple said 24 tabs is supported. Nowhere did I read the o/s would never reload a safari tab.

I have three or four tabs open and often am answering a macrumors post whilst doing other things on the phone. I can't say my half written posts were ever reloaded.

So while I believe it happens to you, others don't see the same.

Three or four tabs is significantly less than the old 8 allowed in iOS6, and the 24 allowed in iOS7. It's extremely light (web) use even for iOS6.
So what you're saying is the iPhone is fine for light web browsing and very few problems will be experienced so long as you don't tax it?

Oh and I've seen several people state that they experience reloading.

 

[mlmwalt]

I have 14 tabs open on my 4s, and they don't reload unless they are really old. And yes I have a few tabs that have been on a site for months. I prefer this to bookmarking it. I've had my gambling one open since the Super Bowl and it just refreshed today for the first time since the big game. I'm guessing my 4s must have more RAM than the 5 and 5s.

 

[sunking101]

I have 14 tabs open on my 4s, and they don't reload unless they are really old. And yes I have a few tabs that have been on a site for months. I prefer this to bookmarking it. I've had my gambling one open since the Super Bowl and it just refreshed today for the first time since the big game. I'm guessing my 4s must have more RAM than the 5 and 5s.

Perhaps you just don't notice it because they never reload at a crucial moment? I can check my tabs now and they won't reload, it isn't something that happens 100% of the time but it DOES happen at really inopportune moments.

 

[chupachup]

If 24 tabs are on offer, then you should be able to use 24 tabs, no? Why offer something the paltry onboard RAM can't handle?
If 8 tabs was the maximum (*even they reloaded), then why increase the number to 24?
You're making excuses for Apple again.

The iPhone is only capable of light web browsing due to the minimal RAM. How many people use more than one tab on their Macs or pcs? Should a smartphone not be able to handle similar, with only the screen size being an issue (to some)? Apple provide the capability for us to use up to 24 tabs, so if having less than 10 open causes page reloading due to a lack of RAM, then that is an Apple issue and not a user issue.
It's like a car having a six speed gearbox, but only three of the gears work correctly and the other three are a bit 'iffy'. The car is designed for town use but marketed as being an autobahn cruiser. All those iPhone owners who are 'light users' may be the target audience for Apple iPhones, but if this is the case then the devices shouldn't be marketed as premium smartphones.

This isn't a RAM issue. This is iOS 7 behavior.

Chrome on android exhibits the same behavior, regardless of the phone. Mine has 2GB. Same thing.

Since I can see more on android than I can on iOS, I can tell you that, even Chrome which is a total memory hog, even with 5 tabs open it reloads my pages every time.

If I check in my task manager, as soon as I open more tabs, Android releases other programs from RAM, I can see them go in and out. As I close the tabs, the apps come back to memory.

When I'm in chrome and pages are reloading I have almost 500MB free in memory. And the more tabs I open, the more memory Android releases to accommodate you. Then as I close them, again, u can see the apps I was using pop back into memory.

Don't worry about RAM. iOS will manage that.

The reloading thing has nothing to do with memory.