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iPhone 6 might only have 1GB of ram.
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I can't be sure, but I'm pretty certain that you would have been one of those iPhone 4 owners screaming bloody murder from the rooftops if Apple hadn't released iOS 7 for the iPhone 4, muttering about "planned obsolescence" and whatnot
Hardware ages, regardless of how much RAM it has. RAM is just one component in a system that can contain many bottlenecks. CAS latency, frequency, CPU speed, bus speed, cache, etc. etc. etc.
All of these things work together to give you a certain amount of speed on a modern smartphone. When you're dealing with a phone from the year 2010, it WILL be slow running a modern mobile OS regardless of how much RAM it may or may not possess. Because even if it had double the RAM, the four year old CPU simply doesn't run fast enough to keep up with it.
In fact, the general UI lag in the iPhone 4 has more to do with its old mobile GPU, and much less to do with its amount of RAM. Most iOS apps utilize extraordinarily small amounts of RAM, anyways. Regardless of how much RAM Apple outs in to the iPhone 6, it is STILL going to be slow four years from now if you try to put iOS 12 on it simply due to the march of progress.
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I can't be sure, but I'm pretty certain that you would have been one of those iPhone 4 owners screaming bloody murder from the rooftops if Apple hadn't released iOS 7 for the iPhone 4, muttering about "planned obsolescence" and whatnot
Hardware ages, regardless of how much RAM it has. RAM is just one component in a system that can contain many bottlenecks. CAS latency, frequency, CPU speed, bus speed, cache, etc. etc. etc.
All of these things work together to give you a certain amount of speed on a modern smartphone. When you're dealing with a phone from the year 2010, it WILL be slow running a modern mobile OS regardless of how much RAM it may or may not possess. Because even if it had double the RAM, the four year old CPU simply doesn't run fast enough to keep up with it.
In fact, the general UI lag in the iPhone 4 has more to do with its old mobile GPU, and much less to do with its amount of RAM. Most iOS apps utilize extraordinarily small amounts of RAM, anyways. Regardless of how much RAM Apple outs in to the iPhone 6, it is STILL going to be slow four years from now if you try to put iOS 12 on it simply due to the march of progress.
So basically you're agreeing with me that the iPhone 4 should never have been given iOS7 ;-)
I for sure won't buy the next iPad Air if it doesn't have 2gb of ram. I'm tired of moving from one app to the other and always reloading.
2gb will be enough for me to switch. I have the HTC one m8 right now and it's so smooth. Even though I do believe Apple does a nice job optimizing their devices no matter how much ram, I do believe an upgrade in ram is necessary at this point.
With that said, my old 5s with 1gb ram Tran just as smooth as my HTC.
With that said, my old 5s with 1gb ram Tran just as smooth as my HTC.
I can't be sure, but I'm pretty certain that you would have been one of those iPhone 4 owners screaming bloody murder from the rooftops if Apple hadn't released iOS 7 for the iPhone 4, muttering about "planned obsolescence" and whatnot
Hardware ages, regardless of how much RAM it has. RAM is just one component in a system that can contain many bottlenecks. CAS latency, frequency, CPU speed, bus speed, cache, etc. etc. etc.
All of these things work together to give you a certain amount of speed on a modern smartphone. When you're dealing with a phone from the year 2010, it WILL be slow running a modern mobile OS regardless of how much RAM it may or may not possess. Because even if it had double the RAM, the four year old CPU simply doesn't run fast enough to keep up with it.
In fact, the general UI lag in the iPhone 4 has more to do with its old mobile GPU, and much less to do with its amount of RAM. Most iOS apps utilize extraordinarily small amounts of RAM, anyways. Regardless of how much RAM Apple outs in to the iPhone 6, it is STILL going to be slow four years from now if you try to put iOS 12 on it simply due to the march of progress.
The bolded, exactly. With two iphone 4's in the house, I've used them extensively on 7.1.2. There is a slight amount of lag at times, but not really in the UI. And nothing that would make me with those phones didn't have 7.1.2, which is much, much better than IOS 6. The biggest issue with those phones, is they don't support cool new features like ibeacon, camera stuff and the like that is available on the 5S. But that is to be expected from 4 year old hardware, which apple is still supporting.
Amount of RAM doesn't have the same effect on speed as it does on a Mac and Windows box.
Old phones are slow because of the CPU/GPU.
Speed increases you can notice from more RAM are directly related to an app not needing to reload. This is why is not like a PC or Mac which would store the info on the HDD/SSD rather then close the app.
NAND flash storage on an iPhone (likely most phones) is slow too.
Old phones are slow because of the CPU/GPU.
Speed increases you can notice from more RAM are directly related to an app not needing to reload. This is why is not like a PC or Mac which would store the info on the HDD/SSD rather then close the app.
NAND flash storage on an iPhone (likely most phones) is slow too.
I'm so at odds with you over iOS7 on the iPhone 4. How on earth you think it runs fine, and is even preferable to iOS6 on that device, is baffling me :-/
As for iBeacon, who in all fairness gives a hump about that? You've said in previous posts that the amount of RAM isn't a factor for you...and lag obviously isn't, but iBeacon is a massive upgrade carrot? Ah man, I need a cigarette.
Ibeacon, which is part if Bluetooth 4 LE is used by fitbit to sync with the phones. The main reason I upgraded significant other to 5s from 4. I should have been more clear in my post. iPhone 4 will not sync fitbit and it's ilk.
Other than that I do not see how you think the 4 is such a bad experience? It's not as fast as the 5s, but it is clearly useable with a slight lag at times as I said before. I agree we are at odds, like we are at the same restaurant ordered the same dish and one thought the food was horrible and one thought the food was great.
iPhone 6 might only have 1GB of ram.
As others have stated, 2 gigs of RAM would greatly decrease the Safari reload issue. I think Apple hears us loud and clear on this. Now let's see what they'll do in response.
As others have stated, 2 gigs of RAM would greatly decrease the Safari reload issue. I think Apple hears us loud and clear on this. Now let's see what they'll do in response.
I hear that the iPhone 6 will cost more than the 5S, so Apple are happy to charge us for sapphire screens etc but they can't fit an extra 1GB of RAM and charge us $10 more?
I will be amazed if the i6 hasn't got at least 2GB. It's an absolute necessity.
I can't be sure, but I'm pretty certain that you would have been one of those iPhone 4 owners screaming bloody murder from the rooftops if Apple hadn't released iOS 7 for the iPhone 4, muttering about "planned obsolescence" and whatnot
Hardware ages, regardless of how much RAM it has. RAM is just one component in a system that can contain many bottlenecks. CAS latency, frequency, CPU speed, bus speed, cache, etc. etc. etc.
All of these things work together to give you a certain amount of speed on a modern smartphone. When you're dealing with a phone from the year 2010, it WILL be slow running a modern mobile OS regardless of how much RAM it may or may not possess. Because even if it had double the RAM, the four year old CPU simply doesn't run fast enough to keep up with it.
In fact, the general UI lag in the iPhone 4 has more to do with its old mobile GPU, and much less to do with its amount of RAM. Most iOS apps utilize extraordinarily small amounts of RAM, anyways. Regardless of how much RAM Apple outs in to the iPhone 6, it is STILL going to be slow four years from now if you try to put iOS 12 on it simply due to the march of progress.
Not sure what you are talking about, All I pointed out was the iPhone 4 does not benifit from the 64 bit version of iOS as the poster said.
I'd like to have 2GB of RAM especially on the iPad since I keep many tabs opened in Safari and I use more heavy apps in terms of memory. I don't think I really need 2GB on the iPhone but I hope they'll upgrade RAM on all the new products and I think is time to move to 2GB, come on Apple!
You're quite right. They might not know how much RAM their phone has and the implications of that, but I bet the fact that Safari refreshes pages annoys most people. Especially if they're in the middle of filling in a form.
Is there anything more annoying than filling out a web form, moving to another app to get some information needed for the form and then having the whole thing refresh and have to re-enter everything?
Most people want more RAM - they just don't know that they do.
The light amount of RAM hasn't impacted my ability to use an iDevice so until then I feel like it would only hurt them among a certain base of people that buy based on specs.
Why would more RAM hurt anything? I'm sure Apple wouldn't mind more people buying iDevices, no matter what the reason, even if it's because of specs.
If Safari has ever refreshed automatically for you once you've gone back to it, then you've experienced low RAM. Now imagine it did that when you're mid way through filling out a form.
If you look at iOS8 beta it seems to run perfectly fine on the iphone 5S so only seeing 1GB of ram in the iPhone 6 might just happen & 2GB saved for the 6S with iOS 9.
Apple have never been one for specs, so if to their eyes if iOS8 runs fine on only 1GB of ram, which is does then they see no point in increasing cost's for extra 1GB just for the sake of a few extra tabs in Safari.
So don't be to surprised come next month if the iPhone 6 still only has 1GB of ram.
Apple have never been one for specs, so if to their eyes if iOS8 runs fine on only 1GB of ram, which is does then they see no point in increasing cost's for extra 1GB just for the sake of a few extra tabs in Safari.
So don't be to surprised come next month if the iPhone 6 still only has 1GB of ram.
So your exhaustive heavy usage has determined that not only does the 5S not need any more RAM, the iPhone 6 doesn't either?
You would quite happily have Apple cripple the new model in order to save what to them would be a few dollars....because who needs the functionality of being able to open a few extra tabs in Safari? Are you serious?