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It's so bad it's being used as the screen technology of choice by Oculus and Samsung for VR. You know where you magnify the pixels with lenses and get right up close and personal. I mean DisplayMate, the people who test screens for a living said it's the best screen ever beating every other phone including Apple's latest and greatest. But I'm sure you're right, it's terrible stuff altogether :rolleyes:

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No, that was the last bit of innovation from Apple in my eyes. I bought the iPhone 4 on release day. The best iPhone ever imo.

While I agree the particular Galaxy screen is amazing, I think the point is that you'll need a higher resolution pentile display to be comparable in quality to an iPhone with lower resolution.
 
As someone who owns one I will say it looks amazing...if youre viewing 2k content. Day to day, its not that much more amazing than other displays

The reviews for the G3 screen have not been stellar at all and it affect the battery and performance too. Basically overkill.
 
It's so bad it's being used as the screen technology of choice by Oculus and Samsung for VR.

OLED is great for latency, in such an extreme case as a VR HMD. Oculus chose well! Pentile IS a problem for VR (FAR more so than for a phone because the pixels are magnified)--but it's still the best compromise possible for them to use today.

On phones, people get used to the Pentile problem. Or measure other things and ignore it when evaluating. Glad I don't have to!

Remember, all screen technologies have pluses and minuses. Some posters here like to pretend Apple's screen's weaknesses ("only" 401 DPI!!) are a problem while other brands' weaknesses don't exist. Others will pretend Apple's solution (rendering high and downscaling on the Plus) have no impact at all. Not true: that choice does have an effect. (It's likely still the right choice, if early experiences are an indication.)

Also remember that Samsung at al don't sell that many of any given high-end model. Apple, and Apple alone, has to choose a display that can be made in MASSIVE numbers no other single phone model requires.

Out of those engineering realities comes the result: not abstract spec numbers but the quality (and performance) that are delivered. And the iPhone 6/Plus deliver outstandingly.
 
While I agree the particular Galaxy screen is amazing, I think the point is that you'll need a higher resolution pentile display to be comparable in quality to an iPhone with lower resolution.

You probably need 550 pentile display to equal a 400 PPI iphone display. Also, until recently their color accuracy was way off. Its much better now but still a bit of work to do.
 
The reviews for the G3 screen have not been stellar at all and it affect the battery and performance too. Basically overkill.

I agree it's pointless to have it when there's no 2k content. But the sample videos that are included when you buy the phone look awesome.
 
It's not surprising Note 4 has best display available for smartphone. (samsung tv anyone?) But with all honesty, I'd be more than happy to have slightly inferior LCD screen than not-working OLED smartphone again. Burn-in in those things are just not worth a risk. Trust me, I have Note 3.
 
Still not the best screen overall. At least now we have a 3rd party reference for who has the best display. It's these guys jobs to test out what is the best screen out there. Honestly they should just say that OLED screens are the best and the Galaxy Note 4 has the best screen.

Is there a website that judges the best backs of smartphones as well? If so, Samsung would rank last every time. Faux leather back with stitching = gross, golf ball/bandaid pattern = atrocious.
 
Yes, the fact that Apple has to produce a hundred million of their top end screens in a year has a big impact on what they can actually put into a phone.

I'm sure that in their labs they would have all sort of crazy stuff that would kill everyone else on spec, but they can't produce tens of millions of copy of them.
 
Is there a website that judges the best backs of smartphones as well? If so, Samsung would rank last every time. Faux leather back with stitching = gross, golf ball/bandaid pattern = atrocious.

Agreed on the band-aid back. Woof. Also not fond of the iPhone's antenna bands, especially compared to how HTC did theirs.

However, as do many other owners, I like the Note's faux leather back. Very skeuomorphic for a digital pocket notebook. Makes it easier to handle, too.
 
I went to AT&T and was pissed when I first saw the display because I thought it was a fake model. The screen is SO good, and SO on the surface, that I thought it was printed. It was't until I touched it that I was all "ohhhhhhh damn!"

I agree. I was completely taken aback at how all the icons felt they were on top of the display. You really feel as if you are touch the icons directly.
 
True. I think this also may be in part to the noticable UI lag on the 6+.

Anyone interested in the 6+ would be better waiting the extra 9 months to get the S, the A8 cannnot handle the 6+. Not at all.

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Its more likely that the UI lag is because its an initial release of a new OS and not that the 6+ is underpowered. I am sure a weaker chip powers more pixels on the iPad 3/4 and Air just fine

Yeah, I mean, there’s no lag/stutter on A6 or A7 powered iPads, they're 1/2 generations behind, and they’re pushing ~3.1M pixels vs. ~2.1M ... not to mention the A8 is even _faster_ than the A7 by a decent margin.

I believe this is clearly an OS [optimization] issue that will be resolved in a revision or two over the next couple of months. :cool:
 
Nope absolutely not absurd. In a few years we'll probably be looking back in disgust at these low resolution 1080p screens, how did we ever manage with this archaic technology :D
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It is absurd when both battery and cpu cannot follow (thus lower performance and lower battery), when the current tech doesn't allow it to be as accurate or as bright as a lower resolution phone and finally, when there's no chance that this phone can really stream content at a resolution that fits the display that's not messed up by compression (does it even uncompress h265?).

Ironically, G2 screen was the correct size for the hardware and current battery. Still a very good phone for the price. Not sure what they tried to prove with the G3.
 
On backorder. My empty iPhone 6 case is so lonely. :(

But when it finally arrives, I'm going to be like...

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Anything above 400 DPI or so IS quite worthless, you CANNOT tell the difference in actual use (you barely can above 300 DPI). And DPI is NOT the main reason these new iPhone screens are so good. ACCURATE (not just bright-but-wrong) color and great viewing angles are much more important.

The iPhone 6 Plus renders (most?) content much higher than the 401 DPI, and that overage IS worthless, even harmful, in many ways. (It's useful for software reasons, allowing developers to have 3x assets.) Luckily, the 6+ still delivers great battery life and real-world speed even so. Not a deal-breaker, then. But, if it were not rendering those wasteful pixels, it would be EVEN faster and run EVEN longer. These are the engineering trade-offs that someone had to decide on. As an Apple fan, I wish no such trade-off had been needed. (I certainly don't wish the Plus had more than 1080p pixels burning battery.) I don't think you'll find Apple fans denying these facts exist, though. You may be seeking a strawman...

Note: one reason you CAN benefit from even higher DPI on many Android devices: they use low-quality OLED "Pentile" displays which have an ugly checkerboard effect. The checkerboard is TWICE the size of the pixels. So if "real" RGB pixels (used in better screens like Apple's) become invisible by 400 DPI, it make sense that Pentile might show the checkerboard defect (kind of a diagonal "screen door effect") up to much higher DPI. Higher DPI hides the Pentile problem better. So, by choosing poor but cheap Pentile displays, Android-handset engineers have their own performance- and battery-sucking trade-offs to face. Even the upcoming flagship Note 4 retains this cheap display compromise supposedly, hard as it is to believe. (OLED is not bad in all ways: in some ways it's good, in others it suffers. But Pentile? Bad!)

Thank you! You explained the difference between pentile and regular lcd really well
 
18MP Point and shoot? Are we talking cameras here or the other topic in your post? :D:eek:

Its an analogy about the obsession about resolution... So, its entirely ON TOPIC, considering people think phones should be 600 PPI just in case eagles need to see them, no matter how long the battery lasts, the frame rate, durability, the color accuracy or how dim the screen looks. None of those are important, just like magapixel for cameras is more important than color accuracy, low light performance, white balance, time to focus, shot to shot speed....

In monitor screens, you pay A LOT more for a screen that's more accurate.
 
Galaxy Note 4 is better than iPhone 6 Plus display, reviews have spoken now.

We recently gave the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 our overall Best Smartphone Display award, and for the time being that continues for all of the reasons originally mentioned there. In particular, for implementing Color Management to provide multiple Color Gamuts, and then using the Color Management to provide the Highest Absolute Color Accuracy for Standard (sRGB/Rec.709) consumer content of any Smartphone or Tablet display that we have ever measured

Another review found Note 4 display showing much better calibration than iPhone 6+.

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Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/galaxy-note-4-display-comparison-t2884423
 
Surprised by that, the LG G3 screen looked absolutely amazing in the store. Shows how good the 6+ screen is if its beating that.

The LG G3 is IPS, different tech to the older LCD, so I don't think it is in this "review". Similarly, they have a paragraph saying they compare to the S5 and then they don't "The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are the current Best Mobile LCD Displays and the Galaxy S5 and Galaxy Note 4 are the current Best Mobile OLED Displays.".... what a copout.

I think this whole article is a lot of hot air. Sure, the iPhone 6 has the best LCD yet of the iPhone series.... duh. Lots and lots of statements and specs about something we already know about with zero substance.

Looking at a real comparison of iP6+ and the Note 4, I would say they are the same, one is iOS and one is Android. Some slightly different specs but from a users experience point of view the same. Comparison


http://www.gsmarena.com/glossary.php3?term=display-type
HD-IPS + LCD, 16M colors, 1440 x 2560 pixels, 5.5 inches (~534 ppi pixel density)
 
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The fanboys will accept anything that's given to them without question. They don't even need to give them a reason. The fanboys will create the reasons themselves!

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Welcome to HD resolution

Haters gotta hate!....
 
Agreed on the band-aid back. Woof. Also not fond of the iPhone's antenna bands, especially compared to how HTC did theirs.

However, as do many other owners, I like the Note's faux leather back. Very skeuomorphic for a digital pocket notebook. Makes it easier to handle, too.

I'm very interested in who is purchasing these new phones. The largest logistical challenge my local Brick and Mortar experienced on Fri, Sat, Sun was getting to everyone who required an "Intro to iOS." :apple:
 
Funny to see the Apple fanboys changing their speech from "anything above Retina resolution is completely worthless, you can't tell the difference!" to "OMG, the iPhone 6+ resolution is SOOOO great!!!111!!" :rolleyes:

You wouldn't even have a point if you would have realised that this is a discussion about PPI - not resolution. But I guess this comment will go over your head.

Is it really necessary to come here and post these ridiculous comments? Is your life that small that you need to incite flamewars here for your personal entertainment?
 
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