iPhone 6 Plus Display Judged 'Best Smartphone LCD Ever Tested', iPhone 6 Also Solid

nagromme said:
OLED is great for latency, in such an extreme case as a VR HMD. Oculus chose well! Pentile IS a problem for VR (FAR more so than for a phone because the pixels are magnified)--but it's still the best compromise possible for them to use today.

On phones, people get used to the Pentile problem. Or measure other things and ignore it when evaluating. Glad I don't have to!

Remember, all screen technologies have pluses and minuses. Some posters here like to pretend Apple's screen's weaknesses ("only" 401 DPI!!) are a problem while other brands' weaknesses don't exist. Others will pretend Apple's solution (rendering high and downscaling on the Plus) have no impact at all. Not true: that choice does have an effect. (It's likely still the right choice, if early experiences are an indication.)

Also remember that Samsung at al don't sell that many of any given high-end model. Apple, and Apple alone, has to choose a display that can be made in MASSIVE numbers no other single phone model requires.

Out of those engineering realities comes the result: not abstract spec numbers but the quality (and performance) that are delivered. And the iPhone 6/Plus deliver outstandingly.
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That may have been the case with older pentile displays. I had the Note 2 and could barely see it. My brother has the Note 3 1080p and I can't see any difference between RGB and pentile arrangement. You won't be able to see any issues with a 2k display. I'm not sure if you've seen any Galaxy phones recently (probably not) but it most definitely not a problem at all.

You just seemed to have ignored my previous point and harped on saying the iPhone display is the best when it clearly isn't. Subjectively and objectively and where it matters, monetary stakes. Oculus and Samsung billion dollar companies with billion dollar backing have chosen it. DisplayMate a 3rd party site objectively analyses screens rated it as the best. But you still don't believe, I don't know what else to say tbh.
 
SPUY767 said:
I love this argument. People fail to understand that there is more to being good that a dick measuring contest over numbers. A 5MP DSLR will take vastly better pictures than a 18MP point and shoot.
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I think the "but.. but..." was to indicate he was making fun of this very argument ;)
 
iamPro said:
While I agree the particular Galaxy screen is amazing, I think the point is that you'll need a higher resolution pentile display to be comparable in quality to an iPhone with lower resolution.
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No, no. See this is the subjectivity reigning in here.
 
Sonmi451 said:
I have the regular 6. Easily the best phone I've ever owned. It feels great, size is perfect, and the screen is amazing.
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I would agree with one caveat. I find it slippery to hold and so far have dropped it many times. I'm getting a grippy case but it kind kills the whole thin and light deal...
 
edhawk1965 said:
Let me fix your quote for you,
While the "best ever" designation includes the caveat of applying to LED displays and
DisplayMate continues to rate the OLED display from the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 as the best overall smartphone display
See there can only be one "best" without limiting factors.
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Didn't want the bring the house down in a Apple forum. :cool:
 
BuffaloTF said:
Hopefully, if/when there's a 4k display (2k is 1080p, using the same axis 4k does for that measurement), there will be far more content than there is today to make it worthwhile. As a separate product entirely, we can all go out an buy a 4k TV today... but what exactly are we going to do with it?

The same holds true to screen sizes; with an app catalog the size of theirs, what was the benefit at the time to increase from 3.5"? When Android narrowed the app gap, there was more content available and use-case scenarios to justify the increase to at least 16:9. Sometimes it's cool to be the leader, but others it's just better to be the follower. Being a follower often allows for a mastery of function and execution.
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I don't think you understood my statement, I wasn't asking about the tech specific info about 2k/4k (by the way.. true 2k isn't iPhone 6 plus's 1080p… the usual 1080p people talk about is HDTV 1080p , not native 2k…). My statement was about what people is gonna say when Apple puts 1080p on their iPhone 7, cuz currently the "fans" are saying what apple did is correct, they don't need 1080p on smaller 4.7… but what are they gonna say when they get 1080p on 4.7 model? lol get it? these fanboys doesn't care about the "contents" you are talking about… I was just making a sarcastic statement about these fanboys just liking and agreeing to everything apple does XD
 
Keirasplace said:
It is absurd when both battery and cpu cannot follow (thus lower performance and lower battery), when the current tech doesn't allow it to be as accurate or as bright as a lower resolution phone and finally, when there's no chance that this phone can really stream content at a resolution that fits the display that's not messed up by compression (does it even uncompress h265?).

Ironically, G2 screen was the correct size for the hardware and current battery. Still a very good phone for the price. Not sure what they tried to prove with the G3.
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The CPU has been bumped up but battery technology hasn't changed in forever. I believe they address this with fast charging.

From DisplayMate's article "Basic screen mode is very accurate, with a nearly perfect 101 percent of the Standard sRGB/Rec.709 Color Gamut." - Galaxy Note 4 screen - best in the business, sorry.
 
theheadguy said:
Well, "AMAZING" is subjective, and objectively I'm not sure you are correct that the "human eye can't handle" above 300 ppi. First of all, the anatomy of eyes are different from person to person, and some people can see >300 ppi. There are also blind studies where text is printed at differnet ppi's, like 300 v 600 and the individual is to select the higher ppi version and they normally do with great success. I did some google searching on this and found that, interestingly, many articles (even Wikipedia) links your claim that they eye can't handle >300 back to original Apple advertising with the iPhone 4. Just saying.
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There's actually quite a bit of controversy on what actually do see when you bump up the resolution. Its not really cut and dry and studies on this are few and far betwen and so different that its hard to collated their result in a meaningful way.

A thing though, those tests I believe are done on printed material in controlled repeatable lighting situations, since it would be impossible for testing purposes to isolate the resolution change from all other variable changes when bumping up the resolution of a smart phone.

Cell phones display are not printed, there are other factors in play in displays than mere resolution. For example, printed material has an insanely high contrast, this alone skews testing.

So, yes, the optimal display may not be as Apple claimed, 326 ppi, but its certainly not 500 PPI (non pentile) either. My feeling is that the optimal display for all people is around 400-450 PPI.
 
tdream said:
The CPU has been bumped up but battery technology hasn't changed in forever. I believe they address this with fast charging.

From DisplayMate's article "Basic screen mode is very accurate, with a nearly perfect 101 percent of the Standard sRGB/Rec.709 Color Gamut." - Galaxy Note 4 screen - best in the business, sorry.
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You ignored the people with actual OLED which said that within one year (Note 3) you got burn in and OLED also degrades fast so by year two its far far from being the best (there is still no solution to that). Others have told you the other limitations of OLED.

Anyway, buy what you want. I'm not stopping you for going to get this Note 4. Apple will undoubtably have severely hampered its sales regardless...
 
Keirasplace said:
You ignored the people with actual OLED which said that within one year (Note 3) you got burn in and OLED also degrades fast so by year two its far far from being the best (there is still no solution to that). Others have told you the other limitations of OLED.

Anyway, buy what you want. I'm not stopping you for going to get this Note 4. Apple will undoubtably have severely hampered its sales regardless...
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Damn some people have a hard time accepting Apple aren't the best at something. Where did this attitude come from? :eek:

Oh those ancient OLED stories. Things have progressed since then. I haven't heard anyone's AMOLED screen dying, but I do hear a lot of yellowing, glue drying, black light bleeding stories from LCD planels.
 
boy709 said:
these fanboys doesn't care about the "contents" you are talking about… I was just making a sarcastic statement about these fanboys just liking and agreeing to everything apple does XD
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Anyone using fan-anything as a putdown should be sent a dictionary to expand their vocabulary. Hey, just saying.
 
Thoroughly enjoying my 6 Plus so far. But a few apps just look over sized because of the scaling (a few are acting a little odd too) but obviously this will change when developers push their updates out.
 
But what about us....

Call me crazy but I still prefer the size of the 5s and its somewhat of a letdown that they didn't update a phone at this size. I hope the bigger sizes aren't replacing the smaller ones for all time. ugh.
 
tdream said:
Damn some people have a hard time accepting Apple aren't the best at something. Where did this attitude come from? :eek:

Oh those ancient OLED stories. Things have progressed since then. I haven't heard anyone's AMOLED screen dying, but I do hear a lot of yellowing, glue drying, black light bleeding stories from LCD planels.
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Tdream, THE NOTE 3 IS LAST YEAR. Someone mentioned it in this god damn thread. I know you have your own blinkers on, but come on. And no, this had still not improved enough to say they solved it. Its better than before, no question, but it is not solved.
 
Keerock said:
I would agree with one caveat. I find it slippery to hold and so far have dropped it many times. I'm getting a grippy case but it kind kills the whole thin and light deal...
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I haven't dropped it yet. I agree it's a little slippery, but I think you just have to learn to hold it and use it different. It sounds dumb, but it makes sense to me.
 
Ok yeah so I thought about it and I AM going to be that guy... One would think it's about time for Apple to finally start looking at OLED screens instead of LCD especially with high quality OLED screens finally not only matching the LCD IPS quality but also exceeding the quality in color correctness, brightness, viewing in direct sunlight and almost equally as important as display quality it draws much much less power? If they insist on shaving precious mm's of the device size and sacrificing battery to do it, OLED would 1 afford us an even better screen and 2 afford us more precious time staring at such a gorgeous screen while using our phones... but hey that's just me.
 
ozone54 said:
Call me crazy but I still prefer the size of the 5s and its somewhat of a letdown that they didn't update a phone at this size. I hope the bigger sizes aren't replacing the smaller ones for all time. ugh.
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Ok, please to oblige. You are totally crazy. The new sizes are amazing.
 
Im a staunch Android fan as IOS doesent do it for me.

However only this afternoon i noticed a colleague was rocking a Iphone 6 and as a techie i was intrigued, the first thing that hit me was indeed the screen, it was stunning, and really did have a printed page effect, and as much as it pains me to say it was the best screen i have seen on a mobile device for a long time, I know thats a subjective view but i appreciate good products even if i dont want to own them.
 
tdream said:
No, no. See this is the subjectivity reigning in here.
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Not really sure you can deny my claim resolution wise (sharpness) regarding pentile vs apple displays. When it comes to other measures (color, brightness, etc.) the iPhone has always done pretty well so far. That's not to say the latest Galaxy doesn't perform better in certain aspects.
 
I went to the Apple Store in SoHo NY, and was amazed by the screen on the 6+. The display unit had a picture of a mountain with a starry night. The stars looked like CGI but the mountain looked real, as if I was staring at a real mountain in person.

I also tested the camera by taking pictures of the Chinese opportunists (looking to profit from selling phones to China. They sell for at least $2600 USD each) waiting on line for their phone. Wasn't impressed, but it was able to record the lettering above the MacBook Pro well sharply.

Nevertheless, I think with Optical Image Stabilization, it will give me great photos.

My iPhone 6+ awaits for me at home....
 
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