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1 GB of RAM - Just tragic. It's all planned for obsolescence and profit.

Is Apple really proud of this? To never ever be able to give us a real good device. It's always crippled in some way due to planned obsolescence, product differentiation or profit margins to please shareholders.

And all these people who say we don't need more RAM. Stupidity has no limits, but that we already know.

Agreed, Safari crashes daily for me. I don't get why can't they just upgrade the RAM.
 
Frankly this is the best thing for everyone. It means that there is less fragmentation and you won't get too many iPhone 6+ only apps out there that require that much RAM.
 
Not me. See my screenshot. This is from an upgrade from iOS7 to iOS8 GM that was done when iOS8 was released. Many apps has crashed, but none pulled a low memory. This is from an iPhone 5

You do realize the 5/ipad 4 is much better with ram than the iPad air/5s due to the fact it has a 32 bit and not a 64 bit CPU...


It is entirely possible that Apple can allocate memory from the flash storage as additional ram when needed. This may be possible with IOS 8. It could allow energy conservation when not using much ram and additional ram when needed.

It takes WAY MORE POWER to write on flash ram vs DDR3L ram that's in the A8. Please look it up. This is all marketing (so the 6S has something to upgrade) and accounting....


I'm just glad I got NEXT 12 so I can dump this phone next year...
 
Do we know what the speed is on the 1GB of ram? Is it possible that it is LPDDR4? There were rumors of this back in august. This would make a huge difference when comparing the iPhone 6 to other devices.
 

Hey, everyone needs to take a look at this right now. That screen shot is not from an iPhone 6 Plus. Plus, the resolution I'm showing in iPhoto is 400x711. No way that is from an iPhone 6, Plus or not!

Also, since when did an app come out on the App Store for you to check your memory usage? (If it is a real app, does anyone know which it is?) Its supposed to be running iOS 8 which means that it hasn't been jailbroken yet either.
 
Guys Look!

In case of ip6 it's not so tragic cuz the resolution bump is not that high but in case of 6+... baaad move apple...
 
I always get irritated with these comments about RAM. "But it's an iPhone and it's super optimized" you say. Oh really? Have you ever actually used Safari?? Have you ever been in the middle of a form and switched tabs and went back and the page reloads?

Seriously—yesterday on my Retina iPad Mini I switched tabs. It reloaded. I switched back, it reloaded. I switched back again, it reloaded. That's ridiculous! Clearly not optimized. Many of us will be using this phone through the end of 2016. If it can't keep pages loaded now imagine the state of apps and the web in 2016 and what effect that will have.

I'm not a spec whore. I don't care how many cores my iPhone has, or whatever other spec Android manufacturers push. I just want it to work properly and it is not working properly. Anand of Anandtech (who is now working at Apple) even said the 64-bit A7 uses more RAM than the previous A6 because that's what happens when you move to 64-bit. And I've noticed. My iPhone 5 with the A6 chip has fewer issues keeping pages and app loaded than the more powerful A7 in the iPad.

And don't tell me to go get an Android if I want more ram. That's a ridiculous thing to say because it doesn't address the issue. I'm an Apple user through and through. I just want my browser to work properly. There are probably only three things that have ever really annoyed me about Apple products and that is at the top of the list. If you haven't experienced this issue, especially on the A7, then I seriously doubt you use your device very often because it can be infuriating. Apple does everything so well and then pulls this crap. I just don't get it.

Wow, finally a post with some logic. I agree 100%.
Sadly, people will say you should shut up and go buy an Android phone, those kind of people are the ones who damage Apple's rep.

I love iOS, but the tabs refreshing every 5 minutes is annoying.
 
As an electrical engineer I do care about specs. As someone who has done computer architecture courses, i do care about RAM.

"I dont want more RAM" - said no one ever (except some iPhone users in denial)


Apple makes A8 25% faster when A7 is barely being used to its potential, but adding more RAM is for random spec wars. Lol, ok.
 
Let the spec nuts go wild while completely missing the point . . .

Reminds me of a phrase. Oh yeah. It's this phrase:
"Your wife will love the dual-core Tegra chipset..."

Ever since last year's 64-bit iPhone 5S, fandroids have had little to whine about in terms of iPhone specs. And now that there are large-screen iPhones, the last major technical whining point has been removed. (Except for maybe NFC, which Apple has finally turned into a secure system worthy of banking institutions and credit card companies, but that's another thread.)

So whenever they see any iPhone spec that they think may or may not be important to anybody, they'll seize on it and try to astroturf it into being an issue. A "-gate" as it were. Get used to it. There's really nothing left for them.
The fandroids.
The forgotten and ignored alpha-geek wannabes.
Fighting to maintain a presence in forums.
Pity, really. Such a waste of intellect.

[Update: And just wait until Apple Watch is released. Oh lordy, the spec-bashing!!!]
 
Great, thanks a lot Apple. Now I can't have 40 tabs open at the same time. Apple is doomed



I regularly on my 5C have 20-30 apps open (daughter takes it and opens everything imaginable) and 35+ tabs open in chrome...

I get pretty much no slow downs.

Not sure what everyone else could be doing to cause so many issues, that's not to say they couldn't have thrown it it for kicks. It would have cost them virtually nothing.
 
1 GB of RAM - Just tragic. It's all planned for obsolescence and profit.

Is Apple really proud of this? To never ever be able to give us a real good device. It's always crippled in some way due to planned obsolescence, product differentiation or profit margins to please shareholders.

And all these people who say we don't need more RAM. Stupidity has no limits, but that we already know.

Do the benefits of more RAM outweigh the costs? Engineering is about trade-offs. It is easy for you to pontificate on the Internet because you have no accountability. More RAM will take up space, increase power consumption, generate more heat, and increase cost.

The benefit is that it might let you load a couple extra tabs in safari without a refresh. The 5S does not really have a problem with this (Not when compared to the 256MB in my iPad 2 anyway), but I acknowledge the reloading could be a problem for some people. What other benefits are there? Should everyone else have to have a bigger phone or a shorter battery life because some percentage of users want to open more safari tabs? Should we all pay more?

By the way. Implying that anyone who disagrees with you is stupid is both not nice and a clear violation of the conduct code for this site.
 
I love how specs do not mean anything until it is in Apple's favor. The Apple community has really become either super complaisant or just ignorant.
 
Everyone keeps talking about this safari reload issue.. I don't think I've ever seen it on the two iPhones or two iPads that I've had.

It all depends on what you do, when I'm on the go I use my iPhone 5 to access patient charts and info. When I look up a web page or two and then go back to the my patient's chart, I have to relog back in, which because of HIPPAA (requires multiple passwords and logins) is a serious PITA
 
I regularly on my 5C have 20-30 apps open (daughter takes it and opens everything imaginable) and 35+ tabs open in chrome...

I get pretty much no slow downs.

Not sure what everyone else could be doing to cause so many issues.
FYI, what you see in the Application Switcher should be seen more as a "recently used apps" list. Apps displayed there by no means indicate that they are actually running, which is why the "close your apps after using them" via the Application Switcher is generally snake oil advice (exception being when iOS fails to kill an app and requires user intervention to manually shut it down).

Do the benefits of more RAM outweigh the costs? Engineering is about trade-offs. It is easy for you to pontificate on the Internet because you have no accountability. More RAM will take up space, increase power consumption, generate more heat, and increase cost.

The benefit is that it might let you load a couple extra tabs in safari without a refresh. The 5S does not really have a problem with this (Not when compared to the 256MB in my iPad 2 anyway), but I acknowledge the reloading could be a problem for some people. What other benefits are there? Should everyone else have to have a bigger phone or a shorter battery life because some percentage of users want to open more safari tabs? Should we all pay more?

Better multi-tasking would be a nice benefit. For anyone that (for instance) plays games on their iDevices, it can be annoying to lose progress because the app was killed because it was switched out for a minute. In this scenario, having more memory on phones would be very helpful. If not games, productivity apps, especially when you're suddenly interrupted while writing something (e.g. Evernote).

Also, RAM uses significantly less power than most other components that would would otherwise use, due to having to spend additional time being awake (notably, CPU cycles) due to reloading.
 
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As an electrical engineer I do care about specs. As someone who has done computer architecture courses, i do care about RAM.

"I dont want more RAM" - said no one ever (except some iPhone users in denial)


Apple makes A8 25% faster when A7 is barely being used to its potential, but adding more RAM is for random spec wars. Lol, ok.

Like the other poster I quoted above, it is clear you don't understand the process of engineering a product. There is nothing wrong with that, but it is not just about wanting more RAM or not wanting more RAM.
 
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