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Not quite - the LG Prada was the first phone with a capacitive touch screen, not the iPhone. Before the first iPhone came out, I was using an HTC phone with a slide-out keyboard (the TyTN, if I remember correctly). That one already was a full-fledged smartphone - and at that time, there were numerous other ones on the market, mostly running Windows Mobile.

The iPhone was much nicer to use, though.

Have you actually seen the LG Prada in action? It may have used a capacitive touchscreen, but it was a dumbphone with a terrible interface. And that's aside from what's been mentioned in terms of the timing of the design (clearly the iPhone was in development long before the Prada came out).

Of course there were smartphones before the iPhone, but they all used similar concepts. Tiny screens, hardware keyboards, styli or roller balls, etc. And that's the direction Android was heading before they introduced the iPhone. I can't emphasize enough how amazing the keynote address where Steve introduced the iPhone was. I recall some people in the industry literally saying that it was impossible to make this product. That's how blindsided some of them were.
 
Who said something about 'sitting on your phone'? Of course it will take some kind of damage over the time. I'm talking about carrying it in your front pocket. And second of all, what if I tell you that a piece of aluminium, that should be designed for daily usage and for being carried around, bends under this kind of pressure, is a failure? What ever Apple's structural engineers did, they failed. That's not even my opinion, that's a fact.

It bends over 70 lbs of pressures, just like the HTC M8. The failure is only in those YouTubers idiots brain....
 
I personally think 4,7" is the sweetspot (I currently own both 4" iPhone 5s and 5" Nexus 5, love both, but think iPhone is a bit too small and Nexus a little bit too large/wide).

That said - I absolutely hope Apple in the future releases 4" "iPhone mini" for those, who will never want a large phone.

They will not. My iPhone 5 with bumper is pretty much the same width as iPhone 6, but the 6 is longer. If 8mm longer is considered issue, you need to check it again. When I put iPhone 6 in my jeans front pocket, it actually feels better than 5.
Making 4" again is a dumb business decision because resources put into design and r&d doesn't get much return. On top of that, it will mess up the logistics like next year line up (subsidy)
iPhone 5S: free
iPhone 6: $99
iPhone 6S/ iPhone 6+/6C to replace 6+: $199
iPhone 6+S (Air/Pro/whatever name): $299

Where does the 4" version fit in this line up?
 
This analysis is flawed. No way the 6 Plus is more popular, it's just supply-constrained. I love my 6 Plus and am now an advocate of "bigger phones" but the 6 will always be more popular because it is smaller and cheaper.

I'd be interested to know how the sales for the 6 Plus are stacking up in Asia where on average they have smaller hands (especially Japan where even their games controllers are designed smaller). It's be interesting if they've converted and I wouldnt be surprised if Apple next year launches the 6 in a 4" model to complement the lineup, when they ditch the 5S/5C (latter is now 3 year old tech already)

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They will not. My iPhone 5 with bumper is pretty much the same width as iPhone 6, but the 6 is longer. If 8mm longer is considered issue, you need to check it again. When I put iPhone 6 in my jeans front pocket, it actually feels better than 5.
Making 4" again is a dumb business decision because resources put into design and r&d doesn't get much return. On top of that, it will mess up the logistics like next year line up (subsidy)
iPhone 5S: free
iPhone 6: $99
iPhone 6S/ iPhone 6+/6C to replace 6+: $199
iPhone 6+S (Air/Pro/whatever name): $299

Where does the 4" version fit in this line up?
Even Samsung has its Galaxy S mini range.

The 5C was a new design (although I think it was to get around some of the production issues on the 5, which chipped and scratched far too easily) so there's no reason why they won't adapt that "colours" theme next year. Why then would they even need the 5S in the lineup at all?
 
Over time the iPhone 6 will overtake the 6 plus. I have the plus and love it but my wife has the 6 and its a far better size for people who don't have huge hands or want a large phone/tablet.

I'm not surprised the people first in the door are picking the big boy. If you were a scalper you would be picking that one up because of shortages.
 
Didn't Apple make a larger screened MacBook Pro a few years back? I believe they did but stopped making it. I don't think the demand is high enough for them to keep making the 4" series size anymore.

Or better said, they dont give you other option than buy whatever they introduce:) no one sane wants to enter android hell:) and wp is not an option, as well
 
There is not too much bezel. Side bezel are very thin, and bottom bezel is needed because of the TouchID button. The only big bezel is the top one.

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Sooooo too much bezel. It dwarfs the LG G3 and has far less of a screen resolution.


Who cares about g3? Last time I checked, it didn't run iOS....

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Really? Do I really have to point this out to you? My organization has over 500 iPhones. There are 46 iPhone 6 units in that population. Let's compare. There are approx. 500 million iPhones in the wild. Of those, approximately 10 million are iPhone 6 (Although I think that number is probably closer to 15-20 million by now). So 46 out of 500 is just under 10%. And let's give it the benefit of the doubt, and say that 20 million is about 4% of the total population of iPhones. So how is 46 out of 500 a relatively smaller number?

Fact is, if real statistics were to be released they would show about 10-15% of iPhone 6 devices in the wild were 6 Plus. I will eat my hat if that ends up being false. Come on, people. Get on a plane. Look at how many phablets you see. 1 out of 50, tops.
I don't know what are the real numbers. Only Apple does.
But my point remain valid: your organization is not a representation of real world market share. Even if you had 1000 iPhone 6 in your fleet, it wouldn't be a statistically significant number.
 
It is a shame the 6 and 6+ don't have the same specs (screen rez and camera OIS). Then we would get a better idea of screen size demand.
 
My wife has the 6 as it fits ideally in her skinny pants, albeit it is a bit long, but better than other thicker phones. I use the 6+, but software wise the 6 seems to be smoother and less trouble free than the 6+. The 6+ is too long and I prefer my Nexus 5 in feel over it. The 6+ offers a better battery life and camera OIS over the 6, but given 6+ software deficiencies and excess length, it is going back. I will wait until the next round of phones that come out between now and January 2015. The Sony Experia Z3, Nexus X, and the latest Nokia Lumia are worth considering.

My guess is that the 6+ may be eating in to the demand of the iPad Mini. For that Apple is will redesign the Mini.
 
But... this is the first time Apple has offered two sizes... today's "normal" and an even bigger "gigantic" :)

Those sizes would be "small" and "slightly larger than average". "Gigantic" today starts at around 7", I'd say.
 
My guess of Apple's 2015 lineup:

1: iPhone 5s (Free on Contract)
2: iPhone 6c (iPhone 6 internals, applepay, 4" screen, polycarbonate body two storage options), 99/149
3: iPhone 6s ( 4.75 screen, faster internals) 199/299/399
4: 6s plus (5.5 screen, sapphire glass, faster internals) 299/399/499


This keeps a modern 4" option on the table. As I understand it, the 5s is still selling really well.
 
well did any of you guys think about this, the 60% is probably because they only sold 5 6+ to 100 6's so the new shipment obviously will be the + since MOST already have their iP6. Its a very vague comment they made that doesn't say much.

IF it said 60% of the sales overall are iP6+ thats a different story but it says the shipment, well no ****, most people got their 6 on launch day and the 6+ was on backorder within 1 minute so all went into shipping.
 
Absolutely the 6+ is better, not at all surprised they sell better than the regular 6.

Happily using my new 6+, yes it was replaced today - there was a hardware problem - but the new one is fantastic :cool:


That is a matter of opinion, after having owned the Six(preordered) i traded up to a six plus, and there were certainly features that i absolutely loved like the bigger(and higher resolution screen) absolutely phenomenal battery, but then there are the things that were bad....

for example it was significantly slower than my iphone 6 on general tasks that are important to me(like rotating when you move the screen) switching between tasks...of course the bigger screen requires more power(but the phones have the same internal components) it was way too big for me, and I am 6'3 with big hands and easily palmed the device(and i did not move from iphone 3/4/5 but from htc one back to the iphone(had original and 3g iphone) and the camera difference, having owned and used both devices for a week each, i can say that there is no major difference but that is my opinion...

for general reference, and after talking to quite a few people at the apple store...fellow customers etc...I think all this name pointing..saying one device is better than another is completely childish and in reality it does come down to personal preference, while i absolutely loved the plus except for the deficiencies listed above, i also love the 6 and prefer it as i am using it mostly as a phone first, entertainment second.

Lets keep in mind they are both great phones and let everyone be constructive in their observation or opinions because one could certainly shoot down an argument that either phone is the better phone....
 
bigger is better for me

Well i most say after coming from 3G-3GS to 4S with the 4S being my favorite, the 4S now however unfortunately being a little hard on the eyes for sometime now. I express to my wife i which Apple would make the iPhone bigger. And year later to my surprise finally thank u Apple!!!! with no hesitation i order 6/6+ with the 6 being for my wife came via UPS yesterday. Shortly after getting it activated and setup, with a few minutes surfing the web. My eyes was like thank you, i don't think i am going to miss the previous models at all. Now i am so much more than ever anticipating my 6+ cant wait for it to get here. Being wanting a bigger phone but didn't want to go Android being everything in our home electronic is Apple. So going with an Android Phone i would run in to compatible issues. thank u Apple i knew if they manufacture a bigger iPhone it would be a hit and sure enough back orders everywhere.
 
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I'd be interested to know how the sales for the 6 Plus are stacking up in Asia where on average they have smaller hands ...

Hand size doesn't seem to matter. What they're used for, is. A phablet replaces both a phone and a mini tablet for many people, plus watching TV on a phablet is one popular usage in China.

Worldwide, 1/3 of all smartphones sold these days are over 5". In China, it's even higher. It's been 40% up until now.

Still, I agree with you that 60% would seem a lot, even in China. One gets the feeling from this forum that a lot of people are trying the Plus first, then deciding whether to go down one size or not.

My organization has over 500 iPhones. There are 46 iPhone 6 units in that population. Let's compare. There are approx. 500 million iPhones in the wild. Of those, approximately 10 million are iPhone 6 (Although I think that number is probably closer to 15-20 million by now). So 46 out of 500 is just under 10%. And let's give it the benefit of the doubt, and say that 20 million is about 4% of the total population of iPhones. So how is 46 out of 500 a relatively smaller number?

Just a note: there are not 500 million of all the iPhones sold since 2007 still in use today. The number is closer to 200 million, if we include 20 million iPhone 6 (and ignore that 1/2 of those replace a device that will no longer be used).

Which would make iPhone 6 about 10% of all iPhones in use, after just a few weeks.
 
I hope that they introduce an iPhone Mini at some point.

I've tried using a friend's iPhone 6 for 10 minutes and absolutely couldn't stand it. It's a phone; I don't need it to have a gigantic screen. It's analogous to those desktop monitors that are so big that you have to move your neck just see the whole screen. It completely defeats the purpose.

If I can't use my phone while I'm drinking a cup of coffee, no thank you. I'll be holding onto my 64GB 5S for as long as I possibly can.
 
People talking about the 6 like it's gigantic are hilarious. It's really just a tiny bit larger than 5s. Give it more than 10 minutes and you're find that it's a great size. The Plus is more of an adjustment, and not something that everyone will need or want.
 
Tiny little heads are exploding and they are still not going to accept that most people want larger phones.

The only way would be if jobs rose from the dead and told them he was just saying that 3.5 was the perfect size for a phone to sell what apple made that year. It was BS, a sales pitch. The tiny hands people are in the minority.
 
iphone mini

I hope that they introduce an iPhone Mini at some point.

I've tried using a friend's iPhone 6 for 10 minutes and absolutely couldn't stand it. It's a phone; I don't need it to have a gigantic screen. It's analogous to those desktop monitors that are so big that you have to move your neck just see the whole screen. It completely defeats the purpose.

If I can't use my phone while I'm drinking a cup of coffee, no thank you. I'll be holding onto my 64GB 5S for as long as I possibly can.

I watch my wife use her 64GB iPhone 6 with one hand very well while drinking her coffee. .7inches more is not that big of a difference from the 5 or 5S 4inches. The 5.5inches however is a different story, which i cant wait for mine to get here. I use my wife 6 for 5min after setting it up, and its absolutely a joy to use. The question is what are u going to do? because with these iPhone 6/6+ being the best selling iPhone ever. I cant see apple ever going back to 4inch or 3.5 after making such a hit with the 6/6+. So it would be safe to say this is the way into the future for the iPhone.
 
Kind of funny how people used to always bash Samsungs for their Phablets and now the iPhone Phablet accounts for more than half of Apple users on iPhone 6. What a huge drift, seems like a large screen isn't as bad as people were making it out to be.

I love my 6+.
 
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