iPhone 6 Plus slightly bent after 2 days

[cfedu]

I don't really understand why people are concerned. The iPhone has had bending problems for the past 2 generations. Did people really think that a larger thinner iPhone would be less resistant to beneding. The people on this site encourage apples obsession with thiness.

" look at me an apple apologetic, apple made the 5.5" right not like shamesung.I want thin and I dont care about ram or battery life only about the thinness"

People laughing at people for wanting more ram and defending apple every step off the way. Well you got thin and yes, it will bend worse then the 5/5s. The 6 will also bend. I would not risk any iPhone in a pocket since the iPhone 5. Do it at your own risk.

You wanted thin, then deal with it. If I was apple I would not replace any bent phone.

 

[movieator]

I don't reply understand why people are concerned. The iPhone has had bending problems for the past 2 generations. Did people really think that a larger thinner iPhone would be less resistant to beneding. The people on this site encourage apples obsession with thiness.

" look at me an apple apologetic, apple made the 5.5" right not like shamesung.I want thin and I dont care about ram or battery life only about the thinness"

People laughing at people for wanting more ram and defending apple every step off the way. Well you got thin and yes, it will bend worse then the 5/5s. The 6 will also bend. I would not risk any iPhone in a pocket since the iPhone 5. Do it at your own risk.

You wanted thin, then deal with it. If I was apple I would not replace any bent phone.

But Daaaaaaad!

 

[kwando]

Wow! Subscribed as I always put my phone in my rear pocket. I don't have tight jeans as a matter of fact I wear 5.11 cargo pants that have a lot of room.

 

[Lictor]

This is not a defect. It's people not taking care of their phones properly.

Errrr... No. It's not up to Apple to define what a phone is and how it should be used.
If you buy a car, it's not up to the manufacturer to decide that a car is a device that consumes 50 liter of oil to move 1 km at the top speed of 3 km/h. When you go to a dentist, it's not up to the dentist to decide that removing half you healthy teeth is an acceptable treatment.
Likewise, in the supermarket, you can only call something "yogourt" if it meets a list of pretty strict criteria. Same with jam, steak or any other food. If an industrial chooses to call something yogourt or steak, it binds itself to the criterias that define what a "yogourt" is and will face pretty severe legal issues if it doesn't.
Apple doesn't exist in a separate world where consumer laws wouldn't apply to its products.

There are laws to protect consumers, at least in Europe. When you market a product as something, consumers expect the product to behave according to the standards of the category. It is doesn't, it is a fraud.

I can assure you that if my 6+ should bend, I will have absolutely no trouble having it replaced as often as I need to... Just like the people in this thread will have no trouble getting a replacement unit as soon as they are in stock...

 

[zhenya]

The phone still fits in my pocket, which seems to have been the point of making it so ridiculously thin. So that's where it goes.

Where do you suggest I carry my phone? A fanny pack?

The phone still fits in my pocket, which seems to have been the point of making it so ridiculously thin. So that's where it goes.

Where do you suggest I carry my phone? A fanny pack?

The point that many people can't seem to get is that the 6+ is no longer really a phone in the way that you are used to. My coworker and I both preordered the plus, but were on the fence about the size. We tried cutouts, he even bought a case to try, and I carried around a checkbook for a while. In the end I realized that even though it would fit in my pocket, it wasn't going to be comfortable or good for the phone in any situation other than standing. I then took note of how I used my phone for a few days and realized that not being able to pocket it was going to be a bigger deal than I'd thought. We even had a conversation about how they are going to need to make these big phones out of flexible materials at some point. I ended up with a 6, he is holding out for the +.

So no, I consider the + an Internet device (go ahead and call it a phablet but I hate that word) rather than a phone. You get a better use experience but you have to expect some trade offs when carrying it. And yes, making it thicker would have been a trade off for usability- see the threads here where so many people are thrilled at how well it fits in their hand because it is so thin.

In auto racing there is an old term whereby some drivers are known to have 'mechanical sympathy'. That means they are far more tuned into the needs of their automobile and as a result tend to have far fewer failures. This attribute is relatively rare and so I'm skeptical that people are quite as easy on their devices as they claim they are. I'm not surprised that a slab of glass and aluminum the length and thickness of a checkbook will bend when you sit down with it in your pocket, but apparently that is not the normal reaction.

 

[Greenone]

********, the warmth of someones leg is not enough to cause it to bend, that's one of the most idiotic things I've read on this forum. We heat and clean Aluminum at 550*F at my workplace and it doesn't bend, Aluminums melting point is 1200*F the heat has nothing to do with it even if it's that fragile.

I didn't say the warmth of the body heat alone (!) though fine maybe that was a stupid assumption on my part but the friend who warped it in her shorts pocket said she thought it was from her body heat combined with the contour of her leg and that still makes *some* sense to me - at least the leg part if not the heat. I just called her again to check again on the details. It was a heat wave, she was hot, it was in her pocket horizontally (perpendicular to length of leg), she was wearing those longer-style shorts (a thin cotton she said - oh and by the way she's a rail thin person) and she was sitting for about 3 hours at an outdoor concert (hers is one of the iPhone 5 phones) in a beach chair low to the ground. So the phone was sort of across the top of her leg, if that makes sense, according to her. She had it the front part of pocket rather than side part cause she could actually somehow see the phone light up a bit when someone was calling her, that way (and the pocket I guess was accommodating in this way). She swears her shorts' pocket was loose but admits less so when sitting and that she felt the phone against her leg but it didn't feel noticeably tight or awkward in any way.

I don't know. So heat plays no part in this at all. Interesting (actually I mean that - I do find that interesting...my thing is music, not materials science). It's hard to imagine how these phones are bending like this without a little heat making things a bit more pliable but you're the expert and I guess I'm the idiot!

Edit - forgot to add that she didn't have a case on it.

 

[Steviejobz]

The phone is longer and thinner. In a pocket over a thigh for extended time will lead to bending. It's happened with older models as well in the back pocket when seated on it. This is first in front pocket use.

Over time, people will adjust to the size and not sit with it in a pocket. I pre-ordered a 6+ but ended up with a 6 because of size concerns. But now am wavering back into the 6+ direction. If my AT&T store gets one in the next 2 weeks I may exchange.

 

[TwoFive3]

you danced for 2-3 hours?

 

[DakotaGuy]

I've had a s3 and s4 and they never bent. Lol. I can't with you most of you guys trying to justify a phone bending.

I tried a test with the G3 in my front pocket today by squatting up and down 50 times then sitting and standing a few dozen times and nothing at all happened to it. I did get my workout in!

Now anyone brave enough to try the same test with an iPhone 6 Plus? If you are please post your results.

 

[cfedu]

Errrr... No. It's not up to Apple to define what a phone is and how it should be used.
If you buy a car, it's not up to the manufacturer to decide that a car is a device that consumes 50 liter of oil to move 1 km at the top speed of 3 km/h. When you go to a dentist, it's not up to the dentist to decide that removing half you healthy teeth is an acceptable treatment.
Likewise, in the supermarket, you can only call something "yogourt" if it meets a list of pretty strict criteria. Same with jam, steak or any other food. If an industrial chooses to call something yogourt or steak, it binds itself to the criterias that define what a "yogourt" is and will face pretty severe legal issues if it doesn't.
Apple doesn't exist in a separate world where consumer laws wouldn't apply to its products.

There are laws to protect consumers, at least in Europe. When you market a product as something, consumers expect the product to behave according to the standards of the category. It is doesn't, it is a fraud.

I can assure you that if my 6+ should bend, I will have absolutely no trouble having it replaced as often as I need to... Just like the people in this thread will have no trouble getting a replacement unit as soon as they are in stock...

Ferrari's are not meant to be driven off road or in snow. You can't expect to drive on a road full of pot holes and then return the car with damage. The car was not designed to be driven on rought roads.

You want top of the line with ultimate thinness, then you will have to have a trade off. That is less ram and week construction.



Apple will never replace this for you, maybe once. But after that they will give you are fund and tell u not to come back.

 

[jcobb40]

Ok so fine maybe that was a stupid assumption on my part but the friend who warped it in her shorts pocket said she thought it was from her body heat combined with the contour of her leg and that still makes *some* sense to me - at least the leg part if not the heat. I just called her again to check again on the details. It was a heat wave, she was hot, it was in her pocket horizontally (side of phone facing sky), she was wearing those longer-style shorts (a thin cotton she said - oh and by the way she's a rail thin person) and she was sitting for about 3 hours at an outdoor concert (hers is one of the iPhone 5 phones) in a beach chair low to the ground. So the phone was sort of across the top of her leg, if that makes sense, according to her. She had it the front part of pocket rather than side part cause she could actually see the phone light up when someone was calling her, that way (and the pocket I guess was accommodating in this way). She swears her shorts' pocket was loose but admits less so when sitting and that she felt the phone against her leg but it didn't feel noticeably tight or awkward in any way.

I don't know. So heat plays no part in this at all. Interesting (actually I mean that - I do find that interesting...my thing is music, not materials science). It's hard to imagine how these phones are bending like this without a little heat making things a bit more pliable but you're the expert and I guess I'm the idiot!

I assure you the heat means nothing as I stated above I am unsure what the temperature would have to be for it to become pliable but it's above 500*F. Also, the Anodizing that the cases receive also increases the strength of the case at the same time it's aestetic and functional at the same time.

 

[vgamedude]

Ferrari's are not meant to be driven off road or in snow. You can't expect to drive on a road full of pot holes and then return the car with damage. The car was not designed to be driven on fought roads.

You want top of the line with ultimate thinness, then you will have to have a trade off. That is less ram and weak construction.



Apple will never replace this for you, maybe once. But after that they will give you are fund and tell u not to come back.

Sitting down with a ******* phone in your pocket is akin to offroading in a Ferrari? What is wrong with you apologists seriously?

Do you expect me to not put a phone in my pocket? Are you delusional?

 

[sunking101]

you danced for 2-3 hours?

Hehe. I would be propping up the bar.

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Ferrari's are not meant to be driven off road or in snow. You can't expect to drive on a road full of pot holes and then return the car with damage. The car was not designed to be driven on fought roads.

You want top of the line with ultimate thinness, then you will have to have a trade off. That is less ram and weak construction.



Apple will never replace this for you, maybe once. But after that they will give you are fund and tell u not to come back.

I don't want thin and I certainly don't want less RAM. Apple decided that, not me. Are you seriously saying that the new iPhone isn't designed to be pocketed??

 

[SirLance99]

Sitting down with a ******* phone in your pocket is akin to offroading in a Ferrari? What is wrong with you apologists seriously?

Do you expect me to not put a phone in my pocket? Are you delusional?

Yes, yes I do when you're trying to sit down. Adjust to the new ways. Stop your crying and learn how to handle your device. This size of smart device is not meant to be in your pocket when you sit down. I and millions of other people have learned how to manage, I'm sure you can.

 

[Greenone]

I assure you the heat means nothing as I stated above I am unsure what the temperature would have to be for it to become pliable but it's above 500*F. Also, the Anodizing that the cases receive also increases the strength of the case at the same time it's aestetic and functional at the same time.

Okay, thanks. I mean it makes sense when you put it like that. It's just this thing I picture in my head and I'm not sure why, lol.

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I assure you the heat means nothing as I stated above I am unsure what the temperature would have to be for it to become pliable but it's above 500*F. Also, the Anodizing that the cases receive also increases the strength of the case at the same time it's aestetic and functional at the same time.

I'm sure my friend would love me to argue though, that she's really, really hot!!

 

[Lictor]

Ferrari's are not meant to be driven off road or in snow. You can't expect to drive on a road full of pot holes and then return the car with damage. The car was not designed to be driven on fought roads.

Your argument doesn't hold and you know it, so you have to resort to ridiculous use cases... We're not talking about using our phones to drive through pot holes, we're talking about using our phone to go buy the bread at the nearby bakery - that is, we're talking about using a phone the way it is used by most grown up men in the world. I'm sure even Ferrari considers that a legitimate use of their cars... Yet, it seems to be a problem with Apple...
But, as I said, it's not up to Apple to define what is the legitimate use of a phone. Besides, when you bought your iPhone 6, did you sign a contract that stipulated the warranty was void if you put it in your front pocket ?

You want top of the line with ultimate thinness, then you will have to have a trade off. That is less ram and weak construction.

Actually, I don't care much about thinness and weight. My normal camera is a 4 kg DSLR with lenses, my laptop is a 15" retina Macbook. Obviously, I don't really care about an extra pound or not or about a few more millimeters. On a note, my DSLR has a lens mount that is much thinner than an iPhone 6, yet it can withstand the constraints from a 10kg lens.
What I want is an iPhone to come after my 4S (which is rebooting ten times a day thanks to iOS7), I want an iPhone with a large screen and I need 128 Go. It seems the only candidate is the iPhone 6/6+. As far as I'm concerned, it could be as thick as my 4S.
The decision to make it as thin as possible and to use aluminium is an obsession from Apple. I would expect a company that pursue this kind of design choice to make the necessary R&D to make sure it's actually reliable.

Apple will never replace this for you, maybe once. But after that they will give you are fund and tell u not to come back.

Then, how to you explain that they did exactly that with retina screens affected by ghosting ? Yes, they claim they were working "as intended" (LOL), yet they replaced them ten times or more for some people...
I don't see why they would not do that with bent iPhones - actually, even my home insurance will cover a bent iPhone if it's to the point where it stops working, even if the bending resulted from walking on it...

 

[vgamedude]

Yes, yes I do when you're trying to sit down. Adjust to the new ways. Stop your crying and learn how to handle your device. This size of smart device is not meant to be in your pocket when you sit down. I and millions of other people have learned how to manage, I'm sure you can.

I have owned a note 3 which is plastic and had it in my pocket all the time.

So you're saying "You're sitting wrong"

That's worse than youre holding it wrong, bravo.

"You have to adjust how you and your ancestors have been sitting for ages because this new phone, but it's not our fault it's yours"

BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO PRAISE

 

[Mr. Buzzcut]

When has a cell phone in the last decade not been pocketable?

At the point they grew into small tablets?

Cell phones used to be tiny. They used to flip or be tiny candy bars. Now people seem to want full HD 5" plus wide screen tablet computers that still fit in their pants pockets. Do the math.

 

[FireCapt]

Sitting down with a ******* phone in your pocket is akin to offroading in a Ferrari? What is wrong with you apologists seriously?

Do you expect me to not put a phone in my pocket? Are you delusional?

the truth of the matter will surface on this, fear not. If there is a fault more than just a few will sound off about it.

 

[sunking101]

At the point they grew into small tablets?

Cell phones used to be tiny. They used to flip or be tiny candy bars. Now people seem to want full HD 5" plus wide screen tablet computers that still fit in their pants pockets. Do the math.

Make them thicker & strengthen them inside, or drop the use of aluminium altogether and all would be well. The iPhone 4/4S felt great due to the use of stainless steel.

 

[vgamedude]

Make them thicker & strengthen them inside, or drop the use of aluminium altogether and all would be well. The iPhone 4/4S felt great due to the use of stainless steel.

Yeah my 4s definitely isn't going to be bending at all, it's sturdy as hell.

 

[geoff5093]

At the point they grew into small tablets?

Cell phones used to be tiny. They used to flip or be tiny candy bars. Now people seem to want full HD 5" plus wide screen tablet computers that still fit in their pants pockets. Do the math.

There are plenty of 5" phones that are fully pocketable, it's just iPhones that are so large for their screen size. My 5.5" LG G3 is completely pocketable.

 

[Mr. Buzzcut]

A phone should be tested and designed to withstand a fair amount of force and pressure before it bends. Surely more then what a front pocket would exert on it. Do these phones have a strong internal frame or do they rely entirely on the back cover to provide support for them? I know I treat my iPad Air with a lot of TLC because it feels like it could bend easily. I would think Apple would add plenty of strength when they know people are going to be putting these in pockets, accidentally sitting on them, etc.

Since the 5, iPhones have been unibody and aluminum. I agree they should be sturdy and I think they are considering their size. Try to bend one. People underestimate the force their body can exert. Bending. Leaning over a counter. Your fleshy parts flex. A phone is rigid and cannot. If the force is great enough, something must give.

All designs must compromise. I'm sure the phone could easily be much stronger. But that comes at the expense of light and / or thin. There have been toughened cell phones here and there. They are always chunky.

Apple designs almost always lean toward form over function. Expectations must be adjusted accordingly. I know what I'm getting into when I buy an Apple product.

 

[Lictor]

At the point they grew into small tablets?

When I'm in the subway, I always put my Nexus 7 in my pants - a cheap Android tablet that sells for a fraction of the price of an Apple mini. It's not a phablet, it's a mini-tablet, 7". And yet, it still has to bend... And if it bends, it won't remain so, because it is mainly made of plastic.

Now people seem to want full HD 5" plus wide screen tablet computers that still fit in their pants pockets. Do the math.

Well, the maths suggest that you have to do some R&D and engineering to build something that will be able to withstand these news constraints. I would have hoped by someone at Apple was able to do maths... But is seems that since Steve Jobs death, the design team is running wild without checks from the engineering team...
Bridges are built longer and longer, with more and more cars. Yet, do bridges collapse ? No, because architects use new way of building them. Cars are now made with more and more plastic. Yet, do they break ? No, because the manufacturer put a lot of R&D in this.

This is called innovation. I would have expected Apple to do some of that... There are metals and alloys that are stronger than aluminium yet remain lightweight. Likewise a thin sheet of metal will bend, but if you don't manufacture a simple sheet but add some structure (honeycombs or the like), it won't bend. You can also use plastic, which is much stronger than aluminium and doesn't remain bent.

 

[Mr. Buzzcut]

Make them thicker & strengthen them inside, or drop the use of aluminium altogether and all would be well. The iPhone 4/4S felt great due to the use of stainless steel.

No argument here. I thought the 4 was fantastic. They should have improved it instead of scrapping it for the aluminum shell.