iPhone 6 Plus slightly bent after 2 days

[hasanahmad]

Have you ever heared about the law of the lever ? And why you know all is the "same" ? You can see this ?

Dude do you KNOW what the Law of the Lever is? it does not apply to the internal hollow gap of the phone to fit smaller internals it applies to the force applied on a single point and where it is relative to the point of balance.

the closer you are to the center of gravity, the greater the force down that can be applied. what does that have anything to do with a smaller hollow point which fits smaller internals when the frame thickness is the same.

 

[braintumor]

Why do you put so much wager on 3 people being a major issue when the same thing happened when the 5 and 5s came out and the launch now is bigger than the launch then

We are already seeing more then 3 cases and other quality issues that might be related to a "fragile" design.

Like I said before many times, its still too early to declare this is a non-issue or a serious widespread issue. We will know more in a couple of weeks, but we should keep an eye on it in the mean time.

 

[hasanahmad]

We are already seeing more then 3 cases and other quality issues that might be related to a "fragile" design.

Like I said before many times, its still too early to declare this is a non-issue or a serious widespread issue. We will know more in a couple of weeks, but we should keep an eye on it in the mean time.

i agree its too early to call it widespread. lets wait a month at least.

 

[Thereisnowill]

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That's awesome haha

 

[braintumor]

as i said : https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...-are-narcissistic-psychopathic-sadistic.shtml

most trolls are ...well. read it.

PS you said Apple products are all overpriced crap, you didnt specifically mention THIS iPhone

also you have made that signature just now . you are lying now?

here is your previous post without a signature 10 minutes ago. in there you said Apple Products, not the iPhone

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Jeez man, stop being so sensitive when somebody else made a different decision then you and is happy with it...

The iphone is not for everybody!

 

[scrtagntman]

I agree. You were trolling... uhhh... guess he was deleted. Never mind. Carry on.

 

[macenied]

Dude do you KNOW what the Law of the Lever is? it does not apply to the internal hollow gap of the phone to fit smaller internals it applies to the force applied on a single point and where it is relative to the point of balance.

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the closer you are to the center of gravity, the greater the force down that can be applied. what does that have anything to do with a smaller hollow point which fits smaller internals when the frame thickness is the same.

It has to do with the fact that the 6 plus is big and therefore it can be bent more easily, even when the same materials and thickness would be used as in an iPhone 5 ( which I doubt ). Your "center of gravity" is where it will be bent and the force down to bend it on top and the end of the phone is reduced, compared to a smaller phone ( I cannot believe that I type this )

 

[braintumor]

Can we just get back to topic? If people wanna discuss what trolling is, they can do it somewhere else...

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It has to do with the fact that the 6 plus is big and therefore it can be bent more easily, even when the same materials and thickness would be used as in an iPhone 5 ( which I doubt ). Your "center of gravity" is where it will be bent and the force down to bend it on top and the end of the phone is reduced, compared to a smaller phone ( I cannot believe that I type this )

I agree that a 6+ should be more sensitive to bending forces (if it has not been reinforced), but we will know for sure how fragile it is if someone can test it with something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVVfFEz5jgM

 

[asleep]

...I made an account so I could share my experience so far. I'm just telling you what happened, it was a light bump, not even close to the force that should have been required to bend it. I've had significantly harder impacts to my 4s and never had any type of breakage or bending problems.

The 4S was a rock solid design/phone.

You have to expect bending when using aluminum... just like a Coke can. The 5 bent, the 6 will be worse. The bigger, the "bendier". (I hope Samsung doesn't start using that. )

 

[hasanahmad]

It has to do with the fact that the 6 plus is big and therefore it can be bent more easily, even when the same materials and thickness would be used as in an iPhone 5 ( which I doubt ). Your "center of gravity" is where it will be bent and the force down to bend it on top and the end of the phone is reduced, compared to a smaller phone ( I cannot believe that I type this )

2 phones were "bent" on top, one in the middle so that defies the law of levers being applied. it more focuses on a force applied on the Phone more than anodized aluminium can bare or that iPhone had a bad anodized process


again iPhone 5 sold 5 million phones a launch and we heard bent iPhone 5's
5S sold 7 million phones at launch we heard bent iPhone 5s'
6/6+ sold 10 million phones at launch we now hear bent iPhone 6's

our psyche will trend towards the fact that this MUST be because its so thin rather than think objectively and its because products at this scale of sale have a defect rate of at least 4% which is also the amount of Phones apple has as replacement units because that is what statistically they should have for maximum replacements.

 

[RyanG]

moar bear wants moar

 

[Crafty42]

Boomerang!

I say you take it outside to a nice open place, give it a good toss and if it comes back to you it's yours forever, if not, well it was never meant to be.

 

[Goodeye]

First of all thanks for sharing your experience with your new phone, I'm not sure, but is it a 6+ you have there?

I think its time for an idependent company to make some objective structural stress tests to see how fragile the new iphone 6(+) really is, especially compared to the previous iphones and its competitors.

Just to give my subjective opinion. Its now 3 days after release and while there are lots of happy customers out there, I also see a lot stories of
- slippery phone (leading to cracked displays)
- breaking very easy when using little force (see PD13)
- bending phones in pockets
- clicking display glas

These are all issues that might be related to a fragile (very thin) design...

I also want to say, that its very positive that Apple is replacing all phones without questions asked!

There was a video of a guy on YouTube who sledgehammered a iPhone 6 plus that had been submerged in liquid nitrogen. The one this that survived his sledgehammer was the back aluminum plate, it was bent a bit but its held up after all that.

The guy did the same thing with a blendtec blender. Yes it bent the backend but it took all that to do it.

That is simply why I cannot believe a simple bump bent the aluminum, and seperated the screen like that..

 

[hasanahmad]

There was a video of a guy on YouTube who sledgehammered a iPhone 6 plus that had been submerged in liquid nitrogen. The one this that survived his sledgehammer was the back aluminum plate, it was bent a bit but its held up after all that.

The guy did the same thing with a blendtec blender. Yes it bent the backend but it took all that to do it.

That is simply why I cannot believe a simple bump bent the aluminum, and seperated the screen like that..

precisely, we have VISUAL proof of testing of durability of iPhones and how they react vs people who think they didnt know anything forcefully but they might have inadvertently.

 

[Macshroomer]

precisely, we have VISUAL proof of testing of durability of iPhones and how they react vs people who think they didnt know anything forcefully but they might have inadvertently.

Those are not everyday uses, we will know how much of an issue this is when a week or two has passed and the phones have been subjected to everyday uses. I have said all along that for the first time since going to the iphone I am sitting this one out until some real conclusions are made as to them being more fragile or not.

I and several others can plainly see that a thinner phone is likely a more delicate one, especially when using a rounded edge versus a much stronger boxed edge. How much more is the unknown right now. My suspicions are that in the case of the regular 6 it will be considerably more delicate than the 5 and the 6+ will be *very* delicate when it comes to resisting bending forces.

I get to check out the 6 tomorrow, that will also enter into my decision to either buy it or just hang onto my 5.

 

[PD13]

There was a video of a guy on YouTube who sledgehammered a iPhone 6 plus that had been submerged in liquid nitrogen. The one this that survived his sledgehammer was the back aluminum plate, it was bent a bit but its held up after all that.

The guy did the same thing with a blendtec blender. Yes it bent the backend but it took all that to do it.

That is simply why I cannot believe a simple bump bent the aluminum, and seperated the screen like that..

What do you mean when you say it separated the screen, are you specifically talking about the LCD or the glass too? There is zero damage to the glass aside from the fact that it's bent back.

 

[Crafty42]

Those are not everyday uses, we will know how much of an issue this is when a week or two has passed and the phones have been subjected to everyday uses. I have said all along that for the first time since going to the iphone I am sitting this one out until some real conclusions are made as to them being more fragile or not.

I and several others can plainly see that a thinner phone is likely a more delicate one, especially when using a rounded edge versus a much stronger boxed edge. How much more is the unknown right now. My suspicions are that in the case of the regular 6 it will be considerably more delicate than the 5 and the 6+ will be *very* delicate when it comes to resisting bending forces.

I get to check out the 6 tomorrow, that will also enter into my decision to either buy it or just hang onto my 5.

Unlike you, this is the first iPhone I did get on launch, and not purposefully. Pre-ordered hours after they went live only to see what the delay would be and then thought I cancelled the order, only to find out when it arrived on the 19th that the order wasn't cancelled. I too wanted to wait to see what the fallout would be, but then it arrived, so I went with it. Hopefully this won't be a big issue.

 

[madriven79]

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[rhomsy]

This is a really scary thread. I suppose a hard case should solve this problem. My 6+ is still on backorder, but I'll be sure to get a cheap hard case until this issue is sorted out.

I typically use a case anyway, but I like cases that are flexible and impact resistant like the Tech21 3DO cases. However, since they can bend, that wouldn't help much (if at all) with increasing the rigidity of the phone to prevent bending the phone. I've just always felt that the hard cases don't provide the impact protection that a softer case can provide (unless it's one of those absurd brick cases), since impact forces are transmitted more readily into the phone. That force transmission is more resisted and absorbed by other materials (such as the D3O material).

One thing I know is certain: The only place for a man to keep his phone is in his pocket, unless he's wearing a suit or jacket, and then it's in his jacket pocket. So whether this issue is widespread or not, there needs to be a workaround to prevent this damage, while allowing a man to keep the phone in his pocket.

I'll be staying tuned-in to this issue.

 

[braintumor]

The 4S was a rock solid design/phone.

You have to expect bending when using aluminum... just like a Coke can. The 5 bent, the 6 will be worse. The bigger, the "bendier". (I hope Samsung doesn't start using that. )

Jeez people, the argument about aluminium is total cow crap, here is what I said about this already...

This is clearly a case of bad structural design and/or quality assurance and Apple should take this very serious.

And before one more person comes and tells what crappy material Aluminium is, switch on your brain!
Aluminium is used for space-vehicles, planes, bridges, trucks, ships, cars, windows, doors etc etc and even is used to build my unibody 17" MBP and therefor I love it, because even after 5 years of intense usage it didn't bent/broke or showed any other sort of material weakness.

Ofcourse the thinner you go, the weaker something becomes and that is even true for stainless steel, but then you have to innovate to compensate for the weakness. There are a lot of possibilities in this field already, use different structures (like honeycomb structure etc...) or mixing of material (reinforce with titanium etc...).
So stop with the argument of laws of physics that prevent Apple to make a phone rigid enough to survive normal use conditions!

Planes also need to be as light as possible, but they don't explode in mid air under continues stress of air compression and decompression.

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There was a video of a guy on YouTube who sledgehammered a iPhone 6 plus that had been submerged in liquid nitrogen. The one this that survived his sledgehammer was the back aluminum plate, it was bent a bit but its held up after all that.

The guy did the same thing with a blendtec blender. Yes it bent the backend but it took all that to do it.

That is simply why I cannot believe a simple bump bent the aluminum, and seperated the screen like that..

I know that video your talking about and also know the video where people shoot, blend, burn, microwave or drop their iphones, but what has that to do with EVERYDAY USE OF A PHONE IN YOUR FRONT POCKET?

Iphones should be made to withstand some normal day activity, including carrying it in your front pocket and maybe being lightly bumped into by another person without the phone getting destroyed!!!

Those videos and tests are not in anyway representative to everyday normal use and are just made to create attention, clicks and entertain some people!

 

[Macshroomer]

To be honest, I am more concerned about the other potential issues:

1. "Gnad-Gate", the effect of having the iphone 6 in your pocket and since the phone is so thin, it more readily transmits dangerous radiation that causes your children to be born with an OCD level aversion to actual gates or even the word gate. For example, TSA will have to allow special tarmac level boarding that will require a special ladder in the wheel well of most commercial aircraft. Children with this affliction will run as fast they can from Bill and Linda Gates.

2. "Fart-Gate", a certain type of gas emitted by oneself that will cause the rounded glass screen to delaminate on the sides leaving very sharp edges and in rare cases, will perform involuntary vasectomies on males who place the phone in their front pockets.

Yep, big problems ahead, I sees....

 

[rhomsy]

I know that video your talking about and also know the video where people shoot, blend, burn, microwave or drop their iphones, but what has that to do with EVERYDAY USE OF A PHONE IN YOUR FRONT POCKET?

The forces applied to the phone in those tests are not the same forces applied to the phone while it's in your pocket. The force being applied in your pocket is, as others have mentioned, a lever force. A lever force amplifies the force/torque depending upon the length of the lever. The longer the lever, the more the force is amplified. The longer the phone, the more likely it can bend. I would have thought that this is common sense. It should have been engineered to compensate for this force by using materials with more rigidity or with other design components to increase rigidity.

Those drop tests and such are valid for other types of potential damage to the phone, but are completely meaningless to the potential for bending from force being applied in your pocket.

 

[hasanahmad]

Those are not everyday uses, we will know how much of an issue this is when a week or two has passed and the phones have been subjected to everyday uses. I have said all along that for the first time since going to the iphone I am sitting this one out until some real conclusions are made as to them being more fragile or not.

I and several others can plainly see that a thinner phone is likely a more delicate one, especially when using a rounded edge versus a much stronger boxed edge. How much more is the unknown right now. My suspicions are that in the case of the regular 6 it will be considerably more delicate than the 5 and the 6+ will be *very* delicate when it comes to resisting bending forces.

I get to check out the 6 tomorrow, that will also enter into my decision to either buy it or just hang onto my 5.

If I keep bending an iPhone 5 and 5S. it will bend too

 

[braintumor]

I typically use a case anyway, but I like cases that are flexible and impact resistant like the Tech21 3DO cases. However, since they can bend, that wouldn't help much (if at all) with increasing the rigidity of the phone to prevent bending the phone. I've just always felt that the hard cases don't provide the impact protection that a softer case can provide (unless it's one of those absurd brick cases), since impact forces are transmitted more readily into the phone. That force transmission is more resisted and absorbed by other materials (such as the D3O material).

I agree with you, but its sad to see that after all of Apple's obsession to make the phone super thin, you have to use it with a case that makes the phone much thicker anyway.
In the past we just used cases to prevent it from scratches and survive falls for which a simple silicone case was fine.

Now we need to protect the phone basically from ourselves

Apple could easily make the phone 1mm thicker, give it a bigger battery, make it more rigid, eliminate the protruding camera and make it less slippery. Thats roughly the thickness of the 5(s) and I heard from NOBODY "jeez, i wish my phone would be even thinner"... No, its the opposite and most complaints before the 6 came out besides the display size was regarding the battery!

If I pay $750 for a phone, I expect form AND function and apple can do it, we have seen it with the 4(s), which was a great phone!

 

[CallOfDuty]

It was in the FRONT pocket!
Of course I wouldn't have posted this if I was carrying it in my back pocket.

My bad, didn't manage to read the post as thoroughly as I thought I had. I apologize. But now my point is, whether it was a front OR back pocket, it still seems very abnormal to me that one would be carrying it in a pocket for hours.
Of course, I wasn't trying to fully imply that the fault is yours, like I've said, there is some truth in the fact that Apple should have at least considered the thin profile, and maybe use a more 'stiffer' aluminium casing? I don't know, whatever I was saying is just based off assumptions.

I'll take it that whatever you're experiencing are simply an isolated case - not many experienced what you just did. Take it to the Apple store and I'm sure you most likely will get a satisfactory response. However, I'm not too optimistic about a replacement phone since they don't even have enough phones to sell to begin with.
One final word: in any case, do take good care of your phone!