You made two posts in as many minutes that put megapixels on a pedestal as if they are the only measure of improvement.
Megapixel-bashing is as pointless as megapixel-worship, however.
I personally love the iPhone camera,
I love the pictures from my point-and-shoot camera more. I think Apple can do better if they make it a priority.
The so called 41MP Nokia Lumia is actually an 8MP camera but rather simultaneously takes 3 photos of 3MP, 5MP & 8MP than combine their pixels to form a 41MP photo.
Do you have a URL that details the whys and wherefores of the Lumia? Fact is, the online tests do show it as producing better pictures, regardless of what "41MP" means.
Moreover, 99% of the people use their camera photo for Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and not print them like the pro-Photographers.
Even these 99% of people would appreciate better low-light performance.
The Nokia is a mutant configuration with a hump that sells in very low volumes; a design tradeoff.
Low volumes sure; it is a Windows phone. The hump, or, alternative, a thicker phone, probably doesn't figure in Apple's plans. But, it does show what is possible.
8MP or not, the fact remains that the Galaxy S4 I had took way better pictures than the 5S does (my girlfriend has one, which I've used extensively). I don't know if that's due to a greater amount of megapixels (13 vs 8), or a larger sensor (I'm not sure this is even the case though? Probably not, if I remember correctly the 5S has a bigger sensor, come to think of it...) or something else. Some of you may disagree, but this is how I experienced it. I wouldn't want to go back to the laggy TouchWiz experience of the S4, as I prefer the iPhone iOS any day of the week - but the S4 did have an amazing camera and a beautiful screen, I have to give it that.
No matter what happens, I hope Apple will provide a truly remarkable camera in the iPhone 6.
This, and, the Nokia, show what the bottom line is: Apple's competitors sell phones that produce better pictures. Apple can do it, too.
People that bang on about having more MegaPixels generally don't know what they are talking about.
iPhone 5s - 8mpix - 2.3MB per image on average.
S4 - 12 mpix - 3.7MB per image on average.
lumia 1020 - 41mpix - 36-40MB an image!!!!!!!
and consistently the iPhone 5s has the better images on screen or normal print...
That is disputed. See other posts above. See also
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles
Note that while the top Nokia and Samsung S4 rate better on stills, the iPhone 5S rates better on video. There is some tradeoff there.
after experiencing my horrible nexus 4 camera for 3 months studying abroad going back to my iPhone 5 camera felt like ive got new eyes
Couldn't have said it better myself. The camera (and display) was friggin amazing on that thing. I've never taken better pictures with any other phone. It's actually the only reason I'm looking forward to the S5 (and that rumored redesign of Touchwiz). And here I am going off-topic. I really hope that the iPhone 6 will be the iPhone that can take pictures better than the S4 (or S5).
I agree . . . . although the only 40 MP cell phone camera I know of destroys the iPhone in picture taking. Add to that the ability to crop and some good photo software and it's a done deal.
The proof is in the pudding. The two top Nokias and the Samsung do better than the 5S on stills, according to the DXOmark ratings, although the 5S has near-the-top overall rankings because its video performance is better than its rivals.
One other top phone that no has has mentioned is the Sony Xperia Z1. It is an Android phone with top video performance (if that is what you care about). I'm more interested in stills, myself, and, so far, I haven't gotten low(er) light stills from any cell phone that I have touched that measure up to a good point and shoot camera.
