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Sounds good in Swedish :)

Probably won't be called the iPhone 6...not such an attractive marketing name as iPhone 5. But then again, if they divert from the number scheme that rules out a 6S in 2015....and who wouldn't want the iPhone Success!

iPhone 6 is pronounced "iPhone SEX" in Swedish.. :)
 
From what I've seen, the Nokia takes better low light shots than the 5S. Once again, it's how the camera processes the amount of information taken in by the 41MP sensor that makes it so impressive, not "it's 41MP and that's, like, a whole bunch".

And all Nokia had to do was make the phone twice a thick to accomplish that…
The trick is that the pure view camera sensor is 5x the size of the iPhone 5s. This means that the sensor has pixels about the same size as the iPhones.
Incorporating this would require a massive compromise to the rest of the phone.
For better or worse, there is no way that Apple will allow a camera to increase the size of the phone by that much to accommodate a similar solution.
 
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That is a lot of great information. In the big picture does ANY of it actually matter? By big picture I mean the mass market. Tech enthusiast and photographers care, but like many have said, the vast majority of the iPhone pics end up on FB or Instagram.

If this rumor is true, I happen to agree with the stance of improve the picture and ignore the megapixel wars. Just because I agree doesn't make it a good marketing decision. The masses like big numbers. That's why we have bogus marketing terms like 4G, 4K, and Retina. They really don't mean anything but they sound good. To a layman 8mp sounds good, 16mp sound better, and 40mp sounds like nirvana. Does it really make a difference? If I am Joe Average, no it doesn't. If I am Tom Techy or Susan Shutterbug it might. If I am Apple I stay the course. Incremental improvements to one of the best phone cameras is satisfactory. I think the only business advantage to upping the megapixels is marketing.

Oops yes it is a bit of a info-overload - sorry.

Well it's a bit like the iPod days... they didn't talk about the quality of the music track ( well they did say use AAC as it's better than MP3 - still true ) but they said the iPod will hold 5000 songs... but at what bit rate was it?

Sure it's a marketing gimmick 12K+ on a camera phone is pointless and just uses tons of space.

Just improve the things that matter - stabilisation, colour representation, more depth of field etc.

I am sure sooner or later someone will stick a lytro in a phone. Great idea. but the file size again is massive.
 
Sigh

It's all about the glass.

Pro photogs know it's all about the lens and the camera body is almost expendable.

Here was a shot I did with a 4 megapixel point and shoot with a decent lens from about 250 feet away in winter daylight:

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Downsized to make display on the web acceptable

That's half the resolution of my iPhone5 and it's really all about the lens.

As good as it is, my 4.2 MP P&S couldn't do THIS:

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The full size photo you can zoom up on the people on the walking path and distinguish features. Very nice.

If the next one is 8 it will be a little dissappointing but if they do lens trickery to achieve higher resolutions we'll be fine. Remember, this is Apple, not Charlie's house of smartphones and low-res photo.
 
As an avid DSLR user, megapixels don't matter (to some extent), it's the optics, the glass. My 16mp DSLR blows out the Lumia 1020 (which does take excellent pictures btw).

That said, I wouldn't mind down the road the ability to take bigger pictures. I wouldn't mind the device even getting a little thicker. I could trade a little weight for a better user experience.

Heres hoping Apple starts to release variants of the iPhone that have different specs (nothing too crazy, just like battery and screen size, which obviously go hand in hand).
 
Yes.. 4S = 8 MP. iPhone 5 = 8 MP with some "enhancements". iPhone 5S = 8MP with some "enhancements".

iPhone 6 = 8MP with "enhancements"??

I know megapixels aren't everything, but good luck telling the masses that the camera is really improving if you try that again.

Apple doesn't aim for the masses.
 
You made two posts in as many minutes that put megapixels on a pedestal as if they are the only measure of improvement. Then take all of the insanely great innovation that Apple has done with mobile camera generations and chalk them up as "enhancements". Pretty irresponsible.

The general public? What do they know about cameras? Photographers (of which I am one) are thoroughly impressed, especially with the 5 and overwhelmed with the 5S.

What does the general public know about cameras? Nothing, and that's his point. The general public will look at the first thing they see, the megapixel number, and they will base it on that.
 
There are a lot of people who are correct on here, about more MP does not necessarily = better pictures. Personally, I am just fine with 8MP. Apple will no doubt continue to improve image quality. Besides, who need 41 MP!!? Is anyone putting their pix up on stink'in billboards?
 
This is smart. It is more than just MP and hope if they go this route, they add a larger sensor and improve on low light shots, because that is really the only area I have complaints with my 5s.
 
Probably won't be called the iPhone 6...not such an attractive marketing name as iPhone 5. But then again, if they divert from the number scheme that rules out a 6S in 2015....and who wouldn't want the iPhone Success!

Why is the 5 more attractive marketing wise?
 
If 8MP proves to be good for National Geographic, who am I to dispute?
Make the pixel even bigger to increase ISO to 3200, throw in stronger flash(natural tone, of course), then incorporate Dolby Vision. We then have a mighty point-and-shoot camera.
Who cares about hi-res sensors in a tiny package as I have seen in my Samsung, which takes lousy flash photos with a ghastly blueish tint?
 
From what I've seen, the Nokia takes better low light shots than the 5S. Once again, it's how the camera processes the amount of information...

That Nokia is about 40% thicker than an iPhone 5, thus can fit a much bigger lens, which lets in more photons, without which the greater pixel count or camera processing would not help nearly as much, if at all in low light. An SLR is even thicker. Choose your poison.

Thinner phones sell extremely well. Better than SLRs currently.
 
Curious why their stock would tank. Apple is still using their camera, just not improving it.

You'd think they'd make enough from selling parts as they would development funds for developing a new camera.

Or do I have this wrong?
 
I hope you're not referring to the Lumia 1020. They're far from mediocre.

On this forum, if it isn't Apple then it literally cannot have any positive aspects whatsoever. If Samsung found a cure for cancer the people on this forum would say they stole it from Apple or that it wasn't worth supporting because it's still Samsung.
 
finally some iphone rumors. Allready bored of my 5s, ready for a phablet iphone 6 with super camera. I take in average 1-2 pictures a month!
 
I'm not exactly buying this rumor entirely. It could simply mean Apple is considering a different supplier, hence the panic from Largan.

And I would bet apple is still testing various camera modules and may not have even made a final decision yet.

As for what I'd hope for, I'd like an increase in MPs, but nothing like 40 MPs taking up all the memory space on the iPhone. I think most people would be happy with just a slight increase of 13 to 16 MP.

This !

Apple has produced photos of quality through marginal improvements that still cause controversy compared against a 38mp camera.

If Apple was to allow for more mp and a large censor if only 12mp these photos could be beyond stunning.
 
That Nokia is about 40% thicker than an iPhone 5, thus can fit a much bigger lens, which lets in more photons, without which the greater pixel count or camera processing would not help nearly as much, if at all in low light. An SLR is even thicker. Choose your poison.

Thinner phones sell extremely well. Better than SLRs currently.

But you get better a better signal from AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mo using an SLR. Plus the app store for the SLR's absolutely kill the phone's app store.

{sets trap}

/waits
 
Just need to sy I am dissapointed in people on here saying the camera is good enough in any way. Then Apple grts criticised for not innovating, why should they if your all happy.

We ahould keep pushin for bigger and better.

The Nokia 1020 is a great camera, it offers good saturation and detail but it is the advanced settings that truly place it ahead. Hopefully we atleast get exposure and wb settings.
 
I know megapixels aren't everything, but good luck telling the masses that the camera is really improving if you try that again.

It's not just that megapixels "aren't everything." Cramming more megapixels on a teeny sensor can actually degrade image quality, rendering pictures worse. And smartphones are stuck with teeny sensors due to size. In many cases, more pixels will simply generate more noise and graininess. Whether or not the public can be made to understand this is another question.
 
Probably won't be called the iPhone 6...not such an attractive marketing name as iPhone 5. But then again, if they divert from the number scheme that rules out a 6S in 2015....and who wouldn't want the iPhone Success!

The new rumored larger one will probably be called the iPhone Air and the current 5S the iPhone Mini. lol :D
 
I had the impression from Apple that they were going to stop at 8-Megapixels for the iPhone for the 5S and future iPhones. They explained why back in September.
 
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