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this thing wouldn't happen (talking about higher gb and dropping 16gb) if apple limited how much develops can use to make an app.
 
Music (60GB if I put all mine in) and the mysterious "other" slice that takes like 2GB.

That's iOS and it's 2.5GB on my phone, so I only have 13.5 GB of usable space, of which 8GB are apps, which I regularly trim to only the useful ones. I only keep 2 GB of music on my phone. That leaves 3GB for photos/videos.

On my 64GB iPad after trying to add a season of tv show to it, I realized that it was not intended for local storage for HD video, so I won't use it for that anymore.

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LOLing out loud at all those "sources" who said iPhone would launch earlier than usual this year.

NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.

iPhone will always launch some time in September-October. Never earlier.

Well, yeah it came and went, but man did I hope it would release earlier because the 5s was such an incremental update. After all, they have released a few iPhones in the summer, but yeah... I doubt they ever will again, because they like to capitalize on holiday sales.
 
Yes!

32GB is a must, 16GB/12GB is killing people. It's the only way to keep it "premium" and keeps the App Store/iTunes ecosystem going. Heck, I can't even take updates without deleting and then reloading apps on my 16GB 5.

I won't be surprised if the bigger phone starts at $300 on contract, has more RAM and an option for 128GB storage. 'Cause some people want more geebees! :D
 
I registered just to ask this:

Why do you need a mobile phone with 128GB of space? I got 16GB and im not getting over 12GB in total.
2-3GB Spotify, then tons of photos, and games.

We do not have same usage. I could fill 256 GB.
Spotify ? Do you travel or experienced no radio service on a daily basis?
Power users are pro who do not a photos or games centric life...
 
I went from never having to manage my music on my iPod Classic to having to manage my music all the time on my iPhone. How is that easier? The answer is it's not easier, it's harder which is what Apple wants so you can upgrade to iTunes Match for a yearly fee. This is what I had to do in order to have all of my music with me at all times. However, now I'm shackled by AT&T's data usage policy and risk being charged additional fees if I happen to exceed their limits while accessing data I've already paid for and own.

How did simply using an iPhone make managing your music harder? The fact that you now have more music on a smaller capacity device is not an example of the iPhone making your life harder. You did it to yourself.

Once I started using smart playlists, I do not find it harder to manage my music.
 
128gb

I'm still on an iPhone 4S, 64GB, and I've been waiting for a 128GB, my iPhone is nearly full after clearing out nearly half the photos. I'd like a larger screen, but my reason for not updating so far has been the lack of an 128GB model. If the upcoming model(s) is not 128GB, I won't upgrade. :(
 
I need 128gb so I can stop carrying around a phone and an iPod. I have the 64gb iPod Touch 5g almost filled with music, and it's at a lower compression rate. I would like to go to higher quality songs. The Pono music player is looking really appealing - lossless audio on a portable device.

With a bigger screen, I could see myself watching movies and tv shows on the phone. Many providers are now offering the option to download the movie or show directly to your device, so you can watch without streaming.

Not everyone is 100% onboard with streaming. Some of us prefer to have a copy of the media stored on our device.

And with the larger form factor, there is room to up the maximum storage to 128gb. And the price of memory is constantly dropping, so I am sure that 128gb now is cheaper than the 64gb used in the 5.

If they aren't going to offer a 128gb version, then I think it is high time that Apple put SD card slots in their phones so we can add the extra memory ourselves.

And if they are increasing the quality of the camera, I could see myself finally leaving my point-and-shoot at home instead of taking it to concerts with me.

Carrying 1 device instead of 3, a no brainer. That's why I want 128gb.

Yeah, agreed, all my audio from the last 2 years is ALAC. So the amount of songs I can store on my phone has dwindled considerably when the average track is 30MB.
 
Good questions!

Are you sure? The new and improved Photo Stream seems promising.
Apple is obviously trying to fix a very broken iCloud service but honestly I'm not sure if they get it still. They are at least trying to meet the needs of developers but I don't think they graps the needs of users well. So at this point we will have to see how iOS stabilizes in iOS 8, I just don't see it as fixed in a way that solves people's issues.
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The way I understood the keynote, it sounds like everything will just live in your photo stream and use your icloud storage. This may prove to be a not-so-inconsequential expense as videos will be included.
I can't see how that would ever work well. The bandwidth simply isn't there and isnt relaible enough. Just yesterday I was on an LTE link that I use a lot and it was slower than a glacier. So slow that I rebooted my iPad thinking that the beta OS was the problem. Nope just dog slow connection speeds.

Beyond that this approach would be very anti user. What happens if I don't want to spend money on iCloud? Or as you point out maybe I don't want to pay the bandwidth charges. Where is the user control. From my perspective Apples love affair with iCloud is getting down right ugly.

Beyond all of that there are some really ugly behaviors with respect to photo handling already in iOS when used in conjunction with iCloud.
The question I have is this: Will the photo stream media be stored locally or streamed from iCloud on demand?
I haven't looked into iOS's photo stream support in depth yet. My primary problem is that I just don't like how iCloud works at all and this minimize my usage of the feature in conjunction with photos. It is to the point right now that I'd rather E-Mail pics to other platforms instead of messing around with iCloud.
If the latter is the case, then we are indeed on a path towards overcoming the lack of space problem.

At a massive increase in cost for the consumer! This is the big problem with cloud based services beyond the clunky way they work. In the case of iCloud it doesn't look like they will come even close to Dropboxes usability. I'd like to be wrong here and maybe I am p, but I just don't see iCloud being improved all that much. In some cases they are stepping backwards.
 
Well, depends on your carrier, but I think in the U.S. T-Mob is the only one that doesn't have a subsidized program. Sprint, ATT, and VZW still offer 24mo contract plans.

Also if a phone is disposable, what is a car that costs 15-100x+? Or any other consumer good. They are called consumer goods because they are "consumed" until exhausted, either in reality or functionality. But between the time you buy a new item and its lifecycle is completed you can sell it. So even if a new phone cost $800 new, at the end of 2 years you can sell it for $300-400. Your total cost of ownership is then $400-500, which is basically what it was with a subsidized plan once you add in higher cost of service.

A car can last for 20 yrs, no smart phone today will be around in 20 yrs. Im with att and contract pricing is going bye bye. I went there and was told its no money down and then a monthly fee for 24 months or the $199 and then some fee I have now thats $15 a month would go to $40 a month. So it was to push one to the paying the phone off.
Now everyone can do what they want but I wont be upgrading as often with this change.
 
Not without a significant overhaul to iOS.

You are really dreaming to think that Apple would give us a SD slot. Dont get me wrong, I would LOVE to have one. I just dont think its happening...

The problem comes down to this, how would you access the SD storage from apps and the like! Apple would need to significantly overhaul iOS to support that SD card properly.
 
Oh man, Id love it if they finally ditched the 16gb and had the 32gb be the lowest. As long as that launches at $199 here, that would be sweet
 
The problem comes down to this, how would you access the SD storage from apps and the like! Apple would need to significantly overhaul iOS to support that SD card properly.

Yes they would. Android tries, but I develop for them and each one handles it a little different. I can be a nightmare...
 
I use to feel this same way, and for this reason I always stuck to 16gb. Although I don't personally need 128gb I now have out grown the 16 as now I record a lot more video's, those eat up some serious gigs. With no real easy way of transfering those off your phone and saved into icloud I think my next phone will finally be the 32gb.

Same here...i have a 16GB iPhone and a 16GB iPad and i manage just fine, but that's only because i don't put movies/tv shows on my devices just photos/music and i don't have a lot of apps..

But i understand why some people would want 128GB, if you put movies and tv shows on your device that can eat up your storage quite fast...

It would be nice to have more storage and not worry about it! :eek:
 
It's really about time Apple did this. 32GB at the entry-level price point is right for some many reasons, including providing additional space for photos and media, but it isn't the main reason. Photos and Media are moving to the cloud, but Apps are not... and Apps are getting bigger.

When developers start adding all this mini-apps to their packages for the extensions in iOS 8, apps are going to get even larger. That's why this storage increase is important.

Yeah, people keep saying 16GB is the most popular so it must be the size everyone wants. That's an asinine argument. It's the most popular be it's a $100 cheaper than the next size. That's a huge hit on the wallet for 50% of american households that make less than 40k a year. And I agree, apps are really getting storage hungry, and 1080p videos are super storage hungry.
Also, iCloud costs money if you want more than 5GB of storage.
 
Sounds more like you have life problems. Here's a not-so-new concept for ya... cloud storage. Just sayin'.

And then his "life problem" becomes cell service provider tiered data costs. And that problem exists every single month he owns his phone. And pinched on-board storage begs for data burn because you can't seem to have enough with you when space is so limited.

I'm glad that cloud storage works for many… or that they don't mind burning cash to stream their own media through toll booths owned by AT&T, Verizon, etc. However, there are those who don't want to pay the tolls but still have access to their own media. If there is (internal) room to sync it, they don't have to stream it, don't have to burn data and don't move toward the tier limits playing media that is already owned.

Sure the cloud seems like an ideal solution… until you factor in the economics of tiered data. Those 2 variables of the cloud are at direct odds with each other. One offers conceptually unlimited storage on demand while the other pinches the amount of data one can stream at each tier toll booth.

"Just use the cloud" guys always seem to ignore the streaming tiers piece of that suggestion. Maybe they don't pay for their own data plans? Maybe they don't care about the cost of their plan?
 
Still find Apple pricing on extra ram a rip off. In Belgium, a 5s/64go is 899€.
That is more or less $1226.

Which also means you have to pay more or less $272 to add 48go of ram to the base model. I imagine you could by 3 or 4 128go SD card for the same price.
 
Still find Apple pricing on extra ram a rip off. In Belgium, a 5s/64go is 899€.
That is more or less $1226.

Which also means you have to pay more or less $272 to add 48go of ram to the base model. I imagine you could by 3 or 4 128go SD card for the same price.

It's not RAM.
 
this thing wouldn't happen (talking about higher gb and dropping 16gb) if apple limited how much develops can use to make an app.

Uh...and why Apple would limit developers..with Metal coming up, I am expecting console level games to come to IOS.

Maybe this is Apple acknowledging a 3rd resolution it is coming and devs will need to add 3 assets to their apps....will see.
 
My last 2 week trip, I ran out of space before I had a chance to offload my photos. This has happened on all of my vacations in the past 2 years.

Wow! You must take a lot of photos!

Lets say you have 50GB of space for photos after filling 14GB with apps, music etc. A typical photo from the iPhone camera will be around 2.5MB, max. So you have space for at least 20,000 photos.

On a 2 week vacation, that's 1400 photos per day! Perhaps you need to spend less time taking photos and more time enjoying your vacation?
 
Do you have actual data to back that up? I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just curious. I did a quick search and couldn't find figures one way or the other, but I'm guessing the 16GB iPhone greatly outsells the other two combined.

Personally, my sweet spot is the 32GB option. But I use iTunes match and delete most of my photos.

The Easiest way I know of to check App space usage is in the settings app. For example on a clean install on beta iOS GarageBand takes up 722 GB of storage or almost 3/4 of a GB. Mind you that is a clean install with nothing downloaded and no user generated files. I've had some apps,that I had to uninstall simply because of excessive storage usage, one being a weather app of all things.
 
I'll echo the people on here. I have a 64 GB 5S right now and don't believe I would upgrade if they don't offer a 128 GB iPhone. I have my 64 GB 5S filled to capacity with music and it would be nice if I didn't have to delete an album to add an album. A 128 GB model offers me additional function, a 64 GB - regardless of what gimmick they put on it this year - does not.
 
I registered just to ask this:

Why do you need a mobile phone with 128GB of space? I got 16GB and im not getting over 12GB in total.
2-3GB Spotify, then tons of photos, and games.

It's way past time that the base capacity goes to 32 GB. The component cost of the additional 16 GB is a couple of bucks at most.

Sigh. Stop with this kinda comments already. I don't want a 4.7 inch. But that's what Apple is heading now so we have no other choice if we want an iphone. :mad:


So what does everyone think about Apple's darkhorse for September, the iPhone 6C? It probably would have 5S components including the 4" screen and 16GB storage in the new 6 case style but with colors for $99 and an option to upgrade 32GB. It could really be successful this time if the case seems comparable to the other models and not "cheap". Especially with those people who want the smaller form factor, don't need much memory or are on a tight budget. :) I'm really surprised there haven't been more rumors about a continued 4" model, there has to be something and I don't think they will continue to sell the 5S - the case is too expensive for a mid-tier product.

Then they would have models at $99, $199 and $299 that are all different sizes and features which justify the $100 upgrade. If they would drop the storage upgrades to $50 this would all start to make sense! (*crosses fingers*)

iPhone 6C: $99 16GB/$149 32GB. 4" screen, A7, 1GB RAM, color cases, NFC?.
iPhone 6: $199 32GB/$249 64GB. 4.7" screen, A8, 1GB RAM, camera lens updates, NFC.
iPhone 6X: $299 32GB/$349 64GB/$399 128GB. 5.5" screen, A8, 2GB RAM?, OIS, NFC.

Notice there aren't any overlaps in price between the models? :D
 
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