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Amoled didn't have a history of great battery life. If it did Samsung wouldn't have gimped the brightness on the S3.
 
No needs?
How do you define other people needs?
You still believe those old myths that using eyes are ruining them?
Know lot of people who got blind watching crt-tv too close?
Eyes get fatigued when they are not moved and the further away is that tine screen, the less you move eyes.
Most people don't want to stare stamps from the distance, hence the average user tends to look closer for phone than tablet and even tablet is usually held closer than newspaper, magazine or computer's screen.

There is a reason why "retina" display is defined differently for different screens.
Since you still are human, I'm just stating something evident ...

But I know from other discussion that every droid owners is ready to argue that he need to look at his 5" smartphone from 5" of distance

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Link?.. yeah right.. my opinions gold dust round here fella....

Ah, ok, so your ranking based on your opinion ... Very interesting.
I prefer to rely on an objective tech site like anandtech.

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The moment anandtech stated on the iPhone 4s review that they were pulling over 7hrs of usage I stop paying attention.

The iPhone screen always been great, I'm sure that Apple will never disappoint in that department also with the camera.

Anandtech is probably THE BEST tech site on the web.
Not just one of the best, but The best ....
 
So because Apple made a bad design they are stuck with it now? Apple changes their form factor on computers all the time.

Anyway, the original point was that there is a design property that Apple follows and they aren't going to simply break those principles.

It is weird that you identify Apple as bad design, when out of all the other companies, they are recognized for meticulous detail and design...

As for their computers, they've settled on a great design they love, although their growth has stunted recently and people are mirroring what they have done. So we may very well see a change in the upcoming MBA. But for the iPhone, it is still the most recognizable phone and sales are still growing.
 
I'm afraid they are going to do that ... I can't see apple produce a 4", a 4.7" and a 5.5" iPhone all together.
I think they are going to abandon the smaller format to follow the marketing machine ....
Every time I'll be out for a trip in summer, with just shorts and tshirt, I'll regret this rush for a bigger screen that droids manufacturer started ....
No you won't. And if you do, don't buy the new iPhone. Nobody is making you upgrade.

I'm also a runner, and I usually run with my iPhone in the armband .... Very comfortable to do that with a 5.5" device ... Indeed :rolleyes:
How do you know? Have you tried? Also the rumor is a 4.7" AND 5.5" iPhone 6. If it was that big a deal, you'd get the 4.7" model. You just sound like one these Apple people that just like to complain to complain w/o knowing what you're talking about.
 
All the reviews and analysis by those in the display industry would disagree with you; you realize this right? The S5 is now considered the new standard for displays in terms of colour reproduction, brightness, clarity, white point, deep blacks, and gamut... S-AMOLED was an issues even is recently as 1.5 to 2 years ago however it has finally matured as a technology and is poised to overtake IPS based displays in quality within the next 1 to 1.5 years all the while keeping the advantages chiefly of which is battery life. If you're going to make statements like yours at least base it on actual current data and analysis and not arguments that held weight 2+ years ago all the while technology is changing rapidly.

An excerpt from the recent shootout done by display mate:

"The first notable OLED Smartphone, the Google Nexus One, came in decidedly last place in our 2010 Smartphone Display Shoot-Out. In a span of just four years OLED display technology is now challenging and even exceeding the performance of the best LCDs across the board in brightness, contrast, color accuracy, color management, picture quality, performance in high ambient light, screen uniformity, and viewing angles."

Full article and shootout can be found at: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S5_ShootOut_1.htm


Displaymates shootout seems to be faulty as they seem to have recieved a Cherry picked pre-calibrated model from Samsung, no other review have been able to verify or get anywhere close to the measurements that Displaymate got on their model. Take a look at Anandtech's measurements for instance.


But that doesn't really relate to whatever you or I was saying now does it? I commented on the matter of higher PPI and pixel density, this is a point where Displaymate does not mention or claim the Galaxy S5 to be superior in any of their comparisons? They even list the PPI of the red and blue to be 343 instead of the proclaimed 441. And they also listed the iPhone 5 / 5S as the best display panel of the mobile industry before they tested the Galaxy S5 so it can't really be that bad, can it?

I have never claimed that AMOLED does not feature some great contrast, true dark black levels or anything. I simply commented on the fact that people seem to believe the Galaxy S4 and S5 to have such a higher PPI and a much more dense amount of pixels compared to the iPhone 5 / 5S when it clearly does not.
 
Since you still are human, I'm just stating something evident ...

But I know from other discussion that every droid owners is ready to argue that he need to look at his 5" smartphone from 5" of distance

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Ah, ok, so your ranking based on your opinion ... Very interesting.
I prefer to rely on an objective tech site like anandtech.

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Anandtech is probably THE BEST tech site on the web.
Not just one of the best, but The best ....

In your opinion is the best mate :) imo the best review are from people with similar usage or first hand experience; technical stuff are crap imo but I'm just a dba maybe that's why I don't care lol
 
Their design is iconic and recognizable, even from a marketing point of view, it would be a terrible idea to change for the sake of change...

Not for the sake of change, man... it's for the sake of keeping up with 2014 standards, and bazel-less phones are becoming the norm (rightfully so!).
 
Since you still are human, I'm just stating something evident ...

But I know from other discussion that every droid owners is ready to argue that he need to look at his 5" smartphone from 5" of distance

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Ah, ok, so your ranking based on your opinion ... Very interesting.
I prefer to rely on an objective tech site like anandtech.[COLOR="#80...

99% of the waffle spouted on here is opinionated rubbish passed off as facts.. when in Rome.....
 
because some people were talking about it:
one of the main reasons iOS devices are often smoother than android devices is that iOS stops rendering ANYTHING as soon as the screen is touched.

easy example? try loading a website with a lot of images. while some images have appeared and some have not, just touch the screen and scroll a little bit. as long as the finger is on the screen, the page will never continue to load and never finish to load.
android will continue to render the site even when you are scrolling

so yeah, android devices may need additional RAM to make up for that. my nexus 5 with 2 gb of ram however is not slower than an iphone 5s.

and to those saying that the galaxy s3 or s4 dont have a higher pixel density than a 5s: you are fighting over who comes in second or third. not that it actually matter after a certain PPI, but fighting about who has the larger invisible penis is fun, right?
 
Not for the sake of change, man... it's for the sake of keeping up with 2014 standards, and bazel-less phones are becoming the norm (rightfully so!).

You're right, it's 2014 and it is still the most recognizable phone in the world...

But to recap, M8 has large bezels, GS5 increased its bezel sizes, the XZ has large bezels...
 
No offense, but you really have no idea what you're talking about. As said, this may be the common view in the iPhone circles, but in the real world, it's non sense.

My Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 do not lag at all. Zero. They use PURE Android. Not some knock off with a third party UI.

May I borrow your words and say, for once in your life actually use an (pure) Android device for awhile.

This post is full of lies. Android does not lag at all.

I know this is on the front page now, but this fud doesn't fly in the alternatives section :p we have all used ios :). If you've really spent time with both(and no not some crappy android phone), most find that they are quite equal. Certainly not the crushing as you describe it, at the very least.

I'd love to believe you people, but it just doesn't match my personal experience. There is just something about the animations in Android that scream lag at me the second I touch the screen. It's been this way for me since the beginning. While I have no problem with Android, there is some sort of "smoothness" that iOS has that just doesn't exist on Android, IMO.
 
I'd love to believe you people, but it just doesn't match my personal experience. There is just something about the animations in Android that scream lag at me the second I touch the screen. It's been this way for me since the beginning. While I have no problem with Android, there is some sort of "smoothness" that iOS has that just doesn't exist on Android, IMO.

and there's the crux.. "from the beginning".. how long ago are we talkin.. 2, 3, 4 yrs ago.. there's is nothing laggy about a htc one. An LG g2 etc.. ignore cheap droids.. at least compare ones with a similar price point, u may be pleasantly surprised
 
I would say it does, but I've only used two Android handsets in all the time I've had an iPhone. One was the Xcover and I don't remember the other, (both Samsung tho).
Having said that I'd say the iOS performance edge is very small. Also it may not be a lack of performance, it might actually be that the delay imposed after you touch but before something actually happens is longer by design?

So you really don't know then....?
 
and there's the crux.. "from the beginning".. how long ago are we talkin.. 2, 3, 4 yrs ago.. there's is nothing laggy about a htc one. An LG g2 etc.. ignore cheap droids.. at least compare ones with a similar price point, u may be pleasantly surprised

I have an N5, I've run stock, paranoid, and cataclysm ROM's; the N5 is not nearly as fast as the 5S at many tasks. And it is not as smooth. I'm sorry, it just isn't. I use them both side by side every single day and at some points in the day I get frustrated with my N5 and just pick up my 5S to perform the same task quickly and without stutter or lag. Of course disabling animations in developer options help but does not completely alleviate the lag (especially in the touch response input arena).

Additionally I've owned every iPhone as well as Every Nexus G1, N1, Nexus S, N4, and N5 (with the exception of the completely botched Galaxy Nexus) as well as a few HTC (older ones though, not the One series) so I'm definitely not speaking from a small sampling of Android devices when I say that I've never had an Android device that is as smooth as Android enthusiasts have often claimed. Never... Not with any amount of ROM flashing or Kernel flashing have I come close to the level of touch responsiveness and general speed of operation as the iPhone of that same generation.
 
Some Android phones have powerful hardware for sure. Octocores and 4gigs of RAM. And yet it still feels laggy to me.

For once in your life actually use an iPhone for awhile. Browse the web, run apps, look up documents, etc. Then go back to your octocore android phone with 4gigs of ram and yet it still lags. Applications crash all the time. One phone will get the newest game while your 1 year older phone doesn't (fragmentation). You can only get on average 1 update for your phone. Where apple you can get the update when it comes out.

Explain to me how that is? Because I'm just going to say that iOS is the better operating system. I want the best and the iphone is the best. Do I want larger screens? Yes. I'm not going to sacrifice quality and the best operating system for a larger display however. :apple::apple::apple::apple:

I'm sure you are getting plenty of negativity towards this post. But I actually have a Nexus 5 and a Nexus 7 (2013) and no longer own a single iOS device. Even on the latest hardware and software directly from Google, there is still noticeable lag.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18979226/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18979411/

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I have an N5, I've run stock, paranoid, and cataclysm ROM's; the N5 is not nearly as fast as the 5S at many tasks. And it is not as smooth. I'm sorry, it just isn't. I use them both side by side every single day and at some points in the day I get frustrated with my N5 and just pick up my 5S to perform the same task quickly and without stutter or lag. Of course disabling animations in developer options help but does not completely alleviate the lag (especially in the touch response input arena).

Additionally I've owned every iPhone as well as Every Nexus G1, N1, Nexus S, N4, and N5 (with the exception of the completely botched Galaxy Nexus) as well as a few HTC (older ones though, not the One series) so I'm definitely not speaking from a small sampling of Android devices when I say that I've never had an Android device that is as smooth as Android enthusiasts have often claimed. Never... Not with any amount of ROM flashing or Kernel flashing have I come close to the level of touch responsiveness and general speed of operation as the iPhone of that same generation.

Totally agree. The fact remains, Android is still laggy whether fandroids will admit it or not.

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I'd love to believe you people, but it just doesn't match my personal experience. There is just something about the animations in Android that scream lag at me the second I touch the screen. It's been this way for me since the beginning. While I have no problem with Android, there is some sort of "smoothness" that iOS has that just doesn't exist on Android, IMO.

There is hard proof to support Android lag in my links above.
 
Since you still are human, I'm just stating something evident ...

But I know from other discussion that every droid owners is ready to argue that he need to look at his 5" smartphone from 5" of distance

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Ah, ok, so your ranking based on your opinion ... Very interesting.
I prefer to rely on an objective tech site like anandtech.

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Anandtech is probably THE BEST tech site on the web.
Not just one of the best, but The best ....

From the article by Anandtech you linked to:

"Overall, I’m quite pleased with the display. The AMOLED display in the Galaxy S5 is finally equivalent to LCD displays in color accuracy and peak luminance, areas that LCD used to be the best in. Throw in the incredible contrast that AMOLED has always had and the ability to toggle between wide color gamut and accurate color, and I would say that AMOLED is finally equal, if not slightly better than LCD. With a few more iterations, I wouldn’t be surprised if I were to write that AMOLED is clearly superior to LCD."
 
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Not for the sake of change, man... it's for the sake of keeping up with 2014 standards, and bazel-less phones are becoming the norm (rightfully so!).

They aren't the norm or even close to being so.

Bezel-less is the darling of online concepts that could never be manufactured or structurally sound, but in the real world bezels are still very much present and growing as companies add stereo audio, water durability, and new sensors.

There is LG and the G2 but they did move the buttons to the rear or the device to get the bezels down.
 
For nothing? It turns the phone on, activates Siri, unlocks the phone with Touch ID, takes screenshots and reboots the phone in conjunction with the power button and as you've mentioned, is used for multitasking. It's super simple yet very versatile. It's a design choice that was incredibly well thought out IMO and is the reason why the best selling Android phone continues to include a hardware button. I mean, how much simpler can it get than one button?

To truly appreciate it, just use an Android device. I still remember the confusing mess of superfluous options that Android started out with on my G1 seed unit and even now, includes multiple universal buttons that unnecessarily steepens the learning curve.

Sorry, I tried turning on the phone by pressing and holding but it didn't work? Did I miss something? or would you like to say wake from sleep?

-Aww, as if power and volume button could not do it or different method? Instead lets use two hand from top to bottom to take screenshots.

-I am sorry, if you say, multitasking is "super simple" when double tapping home button as in (big circular home button), you must be on iSteroid.

-Must any comments not defending Apple bring about Android or the competitor? Just for the sake of it, I do play with Android devices but do I like them better than Apple (Yes and No) some things are better while others are not.
 
I'm sure you are getting plenty of negativity towards this post. But I actually have a Nexus 5 and a Nexus 7 (2013) and no longer own a single iOS device. Even on the latest hardware and software directly from Google, there is still noticeable lag.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18979226/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18979411/

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Totally agree. The fact remains, Android is still laggy whether fandroids will admit it or not.

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There is hard proof to support Android lag in my links above.

Like there arn't thousands of videos on youtube depicting iphone lag {even new iphone's with iOS 7}.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZQC_W0c-C8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6fRMy0zHoI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-KuPhC0Y0&t=2m37s

I use both android and iOS {android phone, ipad} and to pretend that android has a lag problem while iOS doesn't is disingenuous at best. You admit to not owning any iOS products currently maybe that's why you feel that the lag is so bad on android, I can however say in my experience {owning both} they both suffer from lag through it's so minor in both OSes these days it's barely noticeable {to me}. Thinking back to early android's {Wow they were awful} and the iphone 3GS {after iOS 5} now that was lag. :D
 
OP these aren't entirely accurate. You made the Nexus 5 longer than the G2. The G2 length is 138.5mm compared to the Nexus' 137.4mm. And according to rumours, the iPhone will be 138mm. Sorry, I'm a little OCD.
 
I have a Nexus 5 and I bought a 5s on launch day. I ended up keeping the Nexus 5 because I made money when I sold my 5s. But make no mistake, the 5s was without a doubt much smoother than my Nexus 5. Opening apps, scrolling, basic navigation, taking pictures, everything. Android still suffers from basic lag. And that previous post showing a nearly full second delay before Android did anything after being touched is what I see quite often. Never had that happen on my 5s.
 
I have a Nexus 5 and I bought a 5s on launch day. I ended up keeping the Nexus 5 because I made money when I sold my 5s. But make no mistake, the 5s was without a doubt much smoother than my Nexus 5. Opening apps, scrolling, basic navigation, taking pictures, everything. Android still suffers from basic lag. And that previous post showing a nearly full second delay before Android did anything after being touched is what I see quite often. Never had that happen on my 5s.

Same I have never experienced any lag on my Nexus 7 (2013). You see it but I don't on my unit. How did this start anyway?
 
Same I have never experienced any lag on my Nexus 7 (2013). You see it but I don't on my unit. How did this start anyway?

Nobodies eyes are the same. Just because one person doesn't see dropped frames doesn't mean frames were never dropped.
 
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