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Go looks at the pictures with a super amoled gs6 screen in photo mode.I think your iPhone screen is showing you inaccurate colors.

On my gs6 the pictures look way nicer then the iPhone and colors are more balanced.
I'll trust my rMBP over either.
 
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I'll trust my rMBP over either.

Hope you got the rMBP with the Samsung screen.

Bam!!! lol

And I'm serious, i have a 2012 with LG. It has about 9 dead pixels, a lower left green light bleed and ghosting. It's all be tolerable, as love my rMBP, but have a couple weeks left under apple care and will be trying to get it fixed.
 
Have you looked at the images? Colors not matching from one set of flowers to the next and washing out under normal light aren't what I'd call better.

What on earth are you talking about regarding the flower color? And yes, the bright areas do seem to be blown out as far as exposure is concerned. That doesn't negate the better detail resolved in the S6 pictures.
 
That will probably happen before too long.

I wonder if they'll use h265 to encode it? I tried the x265 codec in Handbrake on some of my own 4K video. The top of the line retina iMac couldn't play it back smoothly, so it would be interesting if the iPhone could.
 
Wtf does your response have to do with you saying apple does it when it's ready and mature while Samsung had the same modem a year earlier and had networks taking advantage of it?

PS I use my unlimited data and hit about 30gb a month using all that bandwidth.

But its okay now for apple to get that bandwidth now right?

of course it's okay for apple to get that bandwidth. why wouldnt they use the upgraded chip when it's available?
I'm just saying advancements in that area really, at this point of the product cycle, is not as huge as you make it out to be. Because really what tangible difference does it do on today's websites?

So your fanboy 'samsung is way better than apple because apple is all marketing and samsung used the broadcom xxxxx series version II 1 year before apple did' argument is really pointless drivel. Especially now, 8 years after the original iPhone.

At this point, all that matters is polish and thoughtful implementation. All the core technologies are pretty much in place, until the next new ground breaking feature is introduced.
 
Hope you got the rMBP with the Samsung screen.

Bam!!! lol

And I'm serious, i have a 2012 with LG. It has about 9 dead pixels, a lower left green light bleed and ghosting. It's all be tolerable, as love my rMBP, but have a couple weeks left under apple care and will be trying to get it fixed.
I don't think it's about the screen, the lens, or the sensor. Samsung is clearly trying to make it look like they've got the better camera and they're doing it by goosing the software. Everything's brighter to the point where it's too bright. It doesn't look real, and you can easily see it in the pictures taken in good light. Look at the picture of the sub for example. The mast (or whatever that is lying on the bow) is clearly washed out.
 
Found that the S6 does a little more of that "blowout", though nothing you can't easily correct.

on the other hand, the iPhone6 has some saturation problems. For example, in most bluesky photos, the i6 tends to make the blue too dark and saturated, almost a little purple to my eyes.

I would rather have slightly over-exposed photos (especially once we get RAW mode and can easily correct it post processing), than have over saturation that is not easy to overcome.

Lets put it this way. With the iPhone and S6, you're looking at probably both of them hitting 99% of the capabilities of really tiny sensors. Both providing best in Class and are probably off of eachother by miniscule differences most people aren't going to notice when they're taking facebook photos.

And Apple providing 12mpx camera, as long as they don't have to sacrifice individual pixel quality to do it, is better for everyone, including you as a regular iPhone user.

One thing bothers me about most of the threads arguments against upping the MPX is "who needs 4k" or "gimmick" or "useless cause most people don't have 4k displays".

well, I dont know about you, but I take home movies and photos not for what I can watch them on today, But so that 20 years from now, I can watch them again, or you know, embarrass my nieces with childhood videos to their boyfriends. And in 20 years time, do you want to watcht hose in 1080? or something closer to the current standard at that time.

Trust me, my father and I have spent years converting thousands of hours of home movies and hundreds of photoalbums from pre-digital day. And we wish we had those home movies in much greater quality than VHS of the time.

So I say, Bring on 4k video. don't want to use it? Don't
 
I don't think it's about the screen, the lens, or the sensor. Samsung is clearly trying to make it look like they've got the better camera and they're doing it by goosing the software. Everything's brighter to the point where it's too bright. It doesn't look real, and you can easily see it in the pictures taken in good light. Look at the picture of the sub for example. The mast (or whatever that is lying on the bow) is clearly washed out.

Are you saying that the Phone Arena photos are a Samsung conspiracy that you've detected at the pixel level?

Because the other interpretation of your argument "Samsung is clearly trying to make it look like they've got the better camera.. by software," and by implication, better looking pictures, is exactly why I'm considering a GS6.
 
Found that the S6 does a little more of that "blowout", though nothing you can't easily correct.
Easily? Maybe. Will correct? Not in my experience. Looking at Samsung screens — even without photos on them — I always think of a child's bedroom: bright colors you just don't see in the real world. In that context, I guess their photos will look good.
 
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Because the other interpretation of your argument "Samsung is clearly trying to make it look like they've got the better camera.. by software," and by implication, better looking pictures, is exactly why I'm considering a GS6.
I'm saying they're trying to make Joe SixPack think it's a better camera. Nice bright, shiny (unreal) colors here!! Come and get it!! That doesn't mean they're better images, or even good.

Oh, and they don't have to alter the images to alter the "results" of a poll. The site is self selecting for example, so people who prefer the brighter than bright colors tend to stay long enough to take the poll, while the rest of us leave for less garish sites. Then there's just plain fraud, which wouldn't be first for Samsung.
 
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I 100% agree with you, I just feel like 4K is a way for everyone to make more money off us consumers: from the Television industry selling more units, to phone manufactures playing into the consumer frenzy, to ISPs making more money off of data sales. I think if people actually sat down and thought for a moment they'd realise that the disadvantages/costs of 4K outweigh the benefits for most.

I 100% disagree. The purpose of our screens is to accurately represent reality. Presumably the end goal to this is to have a wall-sized screen with the same resolution as reality. Something totally immersive. Perhaps even a holodeck. This obviously cannot be achieved immediately, it is something we are slowly working towards. 4K is the latest step. HD would be a strange place to suddenly decided this is good enough and never innovate again. There were probably people saying this sort of thing about their 10" black and white TV screens in the 1950s. Nobody is forcing anybody into buying 4K TVs, but they are the logical next step and they are there for people who want them and can afford them. I love the 5K screen on my iMac and look forward to future improvements in resolution, image clarity and dynamic range amongst other things.
 
Easily? Maybe. Will correct? Not in my experience. Looking at Samsung screens — even without photos on them — I always think of a child's bedroom: bright colors you just don't see in the real world. In that context, I guess their photos will look good.

Samsung by default puts their phone screens on a setting called "Auto picture". this will adjust the saturation points of the display depending on the content that is display on it. if you feel like it is always blowing the colours out of context, than, you can change that.

However, The S6, by default is much more reserved than previous AMOLED screens for the colour saturation points. Most review testers have found by default, the S6 is one of the best, if not the best screen in mobile for it's accurate colour representation.

http://anandtech.com/show/9146/the-samsung-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge-review/4
A direct quote based on scientific measurements of the colour accuracy:
In the saturation sweep, both displays do an incredible job. I really don't have anything else to say here, because there's really no way to improve on the level of calibration Samsung has done on this display. Unless Samsung calibrates every single display in production, which is wildly impractical and effectively impossible to do, this is as good as it gets for a mass-produced device. Improving past this point will also be incredibly difficult to perceive, which means there's no real reason to go any further.

So what you're calling "Blown out" or "Oversaturated" is in fact, been shown to be more accurate. So you're likely more used to, and therefore, like most people, they are comfortable with their current expectations. You have come to like Apple's Display quirks better than Samsungs. There's nothing wrong with this. These displays are hitting close to 99% of the colour accuracy. with only slight variations. So what you're expressing is that, you have a personal preference for the more muted, colour with the slightly different white balance that Apple provides.
 
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I'm saying they're trying to make Joe SixPack think it's a better camera. Nice bright, shiny (unreal) colors here!! Come and get it!! That doesn't mean they're better images, or even good.

Oh, and they don't have to alter the images to alter the "results" of a poll. The site is self selecting for example, so people who prefer the brighter than bright colors tend to stay long enough to take the poll, while the rest of us leave for less garish sites. Then there's just plain fraud, which wouldn't be first for Samsung.

OK, so this is getting tiring.

Reality is the GS6 is a better camera than even the iphone 6 plus on objective dimensions.
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/53...e-report-samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-tops-rankings

The other argument, that you're somehow better than most in your particular/peculiar tastes, is by definition, a biased position - which puts your argument about others on ironic and shaky ground.
 
watch them surprise us all with a 5k option camera to play video on their 5k imac. Def gonna need more that just 16 GB ,owkayee?
 
720p: 30, 60, 120 and 240fps
1080p: 30, 60 and 120fps
1440p: 30 and 60fps
2160p: 30fps

This seems likely. Who agrees with me? Personally I would love to see 1080p slo-mo, because slo-mo at the moment is really grainy. Don't really care about 4K as I have nothing to watch 4K video on.
 
Samsung by default puts their phone screens on a setting called "Auto picture". this will adjust the saturation points of the display depending on the content that is display on it. if you feel like it is always blowing the colours out of context, than, you can change that.
Who's talking about the display? I'm talking about what their software is doing to the image. The top of the bar on that sub is not white, and certainly not all the same shade, but that's what their software is doing to it. That's not accurate at all, let alone more accurate!
 
This seems likely. Who agrees with me? Personally I would love to see 1080p slo-mo, because slo-mo at the moment is really grainy. Don't really care about 4K as I have nothing to watch 4K video on.

Slo-mo is grainy because it requires a ****ton more light.

watch them surprise us all with a 5k option camera to play video on their 5k imac. Def gonna need more that just 16 GB ,owkayee?

Extremely doubtful. 5K is not a video standard. 5K monitor resolution isn't about watching 5K resolution content. It's about added screen real estate for computing.
 
Who's talking about the display? I'm talking about what their software is doing to the image. The top of the bar on that sub is not white, and certainly not all the same shade, but that's what their software is doing to it. That's not accurate at all, let alone more accurate!

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you were
You were talking about the display

Looking at Samsung screens — even without photos on them — I always think of a child's bedroom: bright colors you just don't see in the real world. In that context, I guess their photos will look good.

You're completely jumping everywhere in your defense of the indefensible.

At first, it's software, gimmickry to make you believe the picture is better, but it's actually not, despite looking better

Then you said it's cause the screens are so saturated, and people like candy saturations.

nobody is saying the S6 camera is 100% completely, utterly, 100% accurate and flawless. Guess what, Neither is Apple's shooter. you're nitpicking something that obviously isn't S6's strenght, while ignoring similar negatives people have about Apple's shooter as well. There is no objectivity to any of your comments. When almost every site on the internet thesedays are repeating the same thing we are, and you're sticking your fingers in your ear claiming conspiracy, the problem isn't the camera. It's you

I'm sure i'm not alone here, by saying to you, we're done here. the resources are available for you to read to get some factual data. but you clearly do not want it.

Just another to add to my ignore list
 
I love reading all the love for 4k and 12mp when the competition has been doing it for years and now all of a sudden its a new holy coming when apple finally does it.

I also read the 6s is getting the same modem the gs5 had lol all the hate when competition had it and nothing but love when apple finally catches up.


Nobody cares what Samsung does or has?? I'm an Apple guy that is happy with Apple updates and upgrades!! Never said Wow, nobody has that ever!?? Samsung fanboys seem to care to much about what everyone else is doing! Oh yea and wireless charging?? Palm had that in the 90's!!! Your not first!!
 
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But this is Tim Cook's Apple. He's a numbers guy. Bottom line guy. He's definitely not a visionary. A visionary would have known that the iPhone 6 Plus needed 2GB of RAM. But when you focus on the bottom line, you get the worst iPhone experience I've ever had (reloads, reboots, crashes, etc.)
 
What gets me with 4K camera's is that most screens cannot show 4K as there is too many pixels - if its for zoom, would it be better to improve the zoom features on the camera itself also?
Optical Zoom should always be preferred but there are advantages to more pixels with after the fact editing. A zoom is effectively is editing at recording time, however post recording sometimes you realize there is a better way to represent what you want to get across. So you crop, cropping without loosing pixels is ideal. It really isn't any different that still photography even from the days of film, medium format effectively gave you more pixels to work with.
 
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