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Well, if you look at the actual numbers, the iPhone 6s weighs about 2.5x more than the iPhone 6. While it may be light, that's still a pretty big difference.

I think you might've read wrong -- the 6S DISPLAY weighs a lot more than the 6 display, but the overall phone is just 11% heavier.
 
It really depends on how you've got it set up. What apps you're using, what's active in the background, your screen brightness (this is a big one) etc.

On average it translates to around a day of normal-heavy use on iPhone 6, and 2 days on iPhone 6+. I've very rarely seen 0% on my previous iDevices since I charge every night anyway. It's not as they have to be anywhere or do anything while I'm sleeping.

10 hours on 3G of browsing only happens if you load one site and stare at it for an hour with display set to like 25 percent. When i have my lunch break i usually read something and it goes down around 15 percent in 20 minutes that happens regardless of my settings. I have already tried and tested everything to make it last as long as it can and concluded that disabling stuff basically makes no impact.
 
Even if Apple doubled the battery you would probably use the phone more to compensate the extra battery life... assuming you're using your phone conservatively now when the battery power is low. So a 2 day battery life will pretty much just lead to whining why the battery won't last 3 days.
I 100% agree. I think yours is one of the best posts I've read on Macrumors.
I'll tell you more:
work for me!
Ps: The more I would pay you, the more you would spend to compensate the extra money. I think a 1000€ pay would just lead to whining about why the pay is not 2000€. I'll give you 500 instead :D
Ps: just kidding ;)
 
If the battery capacity had stayed the same and also battery life stayed the same, no one would have batted an eyelid.
But when Apple reduces the capacity and keeps the same battery life, everyone loses their minds.

Perhaps it has something to do with that, maybe? :)


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I myself get an exact 10 hours of screen time with moderate usage on 6, which is amazing considering its size and the efficiency that Apple is known for, I even expect it to get better with iOS 9 at 11 hours or so.
But if only it was a bit higher at 16 hours, then I could last it till bed time and just fit my schedule perfectly; Yes if I want bigger battery, I can always get the Plus or a Battery Case but there are trade off in there which I'd rather not have. Just personal opinion.
 
3d touch seems nice but the 6s plus is now the biggest and heaviest 5.5" phone out there.

Sorry apple mayor fail that every brand can design a smaller phone while keeping the rest.

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What are you talking about? No other phone has 3D touch... Plus chances are the majority of people will have cases which make the change in weight of the iPhone negligible.
 
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I personally think the added weight is good because it makes the phone heavier towards the bottom portion and it feels good in the hand. Now I am in the camp where a little more battery life would've been much better but hopefully that's what makes me upgrade to the iPhone 7.
 
Not charging your phone everyday is a big deal too.

I'm all for more battery capacity, but is your statement really true if you're not camping? It never seems like a big deal to plug my phone in at night.
is that a pie chart with various wood textures to represent various non-wood materials?

you guys tarred and feathered scott forstall and chased him out of town, and you're going to let THIS slide??

That is a terrible chart.
 
Perhaps it has something to do with that, maybe? :)


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I myself get an exact 10 hours of screen time with moderate usage on 6, which is amazing considering its size and the efficiency that Apple is known for, I even expect it to get better with iOS 9 at 11 hours or so.
But if only it was a bit higher at 16 hours, then I could last it till bed time and just fit my schedule perfectly; Yes if I want bigger battery, I can always get the Plus or a Battery Case but there are trade off in there which I'd rather not have. Just personal opinion.

It'll probably be three more years until we see that kind of battery life on the smaller model, realistically. As you say, the 6+/6s+ could probably match that now if I'm honest, perhaps just a smidgen less maybe.
 
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If the battery capacity had stayed the same and also battery life stayed the same, no one would have batted an eyelid.

But when Apple reduces the capacity and keeps the same battery life, everyone loses their minds.
Good point.
Yet I think a bit of "axiety" is justified:
When the iPad Air 2 was released, it came with a smaller battery, compared to the first. Apple said that the battery life was still the same. Yet, many users will tell you that the first Air has a better battery life. And also the most respected tech websites (like ars, anandtech etc) agreed on this. Well, the battery life of the Air 2 is still good and I love the device (as much as I hated the first Air). In case of the iPhone battery life is more important and not so great. I think Apple knows this, so I am not worried for now.
But if they promise same battery life on the iPad and then deliver something different, if they problem a faster iOS and then GM comes and it's slower...well they loose credibility. And then everyone lose their mind.
:)
 
It'll probably be three more years until we see that kind of battery life on the smaller model, realistically. As you say, the 6+/6s+ could probably match that now if I'm honest, perhaps just a smidgen less maybe.
I agree, and the fact that we are getting there makes me happy.
Apple works at its own pace, except I just can't wait for it to happen as 16 hours of moderate usage and well rest 8 hours of sleep cycle would be almost on everyone's schedule and I hope most like me will be happy with it.

Honestly if iPhone 7 gives me that, I'd rush in for it on day one! :D
 
I hope in the future Apple makes an iPhone with a week or even a month battery life just to shot the hell up the people who are to lazy to charge their phones when they go to bed or the ones who live in Serengeti.
I heard they can do that but you have to charge your phone 48 hrs straight. LOL! Proper balance is the key the way Apple design their products.
 
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I'm all for more battery capacity, but is your statement really true if you're not camping? It never seems like a big deal to plug my phone in at night.

You're right it isn't a big deal, it only becomes a big deal when someone is trying to justify their overblown opinions, these same people probably have loads of cables & wires trailing around their basements charging stuff daily but then it doesn't seem so much of a problem...
 
Good point.
Yet I think a bit of "axiety" is justified:
When the iPad Air 2 was released, it came with a smaller battery, compared to the first. Apple said that the battery life was still the same. Yet, many users will tell you that the first Air has a better battery life. And also the most respected tech websites (like ars, anandtech etc) agreed on this. Well, the battery life of the Air 2 is still good and I love the device (as much as I hated the first Air). In case of the iPhone battery life is more important and not so great. I think Apple knows this, so I am not worried for now.
But if they promise same battery life on the iPad and then deliver something different, if they problem a faster iOS and then GM comes and it's slower...well they loose credibility. And then everyone lose their mind.
:)

I had an Air and an Air 2, and yes the battery life was less on the Air 2, but it still easily managed the advertised battery life, despite being less.

To note, the iPhone 6s battery size has been reduced 5% compared to the 6 (1810 vs 1715) but the iPad Air 2 battery size was reduced by 20% compared to the Air (8820 vs 7340) which is significantly more.

That said, I have no worries about 6s battery life taking a hit. Apple have always come through on their battery life claims in the past so I have no reason to doubt it now.
 
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If the battery capacity had stayed the same and also battery life stayed the same, no one would have batted an eyelid.

But when Apple reduces the capacity and keeps the same battery life, everyone loses their minds.

Bigger and smaller numbers are easy to understand (even if people really don't know what they signify) but increasing efficiency? That's just crazy. It's a kind of sorcery people cannot understand.
 
In reality all your statement says is:
This is bad, however, I have got used to it being bad now, so that now I don't see any reason for it to be better.

Tell me, if battery life of just 1 day is perfectly fine for you.
I expect you would feel absolutely fine if every battery operated device you own or ever bought also only lasted 1 day between charges.... yes?
Well let me answer what was not asked of me....

Every night when I go to sleep I place my phone and watch in a dock that I bought. I take it out in the morning, use it all day and repeat each night. I have no issue with battery life normally. Since I bought my watch there have been two occasions where the watch died before the night was done. My iphone6 (on iOS9.1 beta) has gone into power save mode once.

So for me extra battery would have been nice in these three occasions. Otherwise it really is a non-issue. There are much heavier users than I so I can understand that for them getting through the day may be more difficult. However, I believe (meaning I don't have a source at my finger tips) the only possible inconvenience for most users is simply plugging in the phone/watch every night while they sleep. For me even if you gave me week long battery life, I would still dock every night, because I don't like things just laying around. I like the look of them in the dock. So it really is not bad. Again, this is based on my experience with my use case. If yours is different then that is fine too. Your use case does not invalidate mine nor mine yours.
 
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Bigger and smaller numbers are easy to understand (even if people really don't know what they signify) but increasing efficiency? That's just crazy. It's a kind of sorcery people cannot understand.

I call it 'spec sheet mentality'.

Personally I care more for how a device performs day to day than some numbers written on the outside of the box it came in. I guess that is why I'm an Apple guy.

Obviously specs matter to a certain extent, but they're not the be all and end all of a product. They're just one aspect that you have to consider when making your decision about what to buy.
 
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Well let me answer what was not asked of me....

Every night when I go to sleep I place my phone and watch in a dock that I bought. I take it out in the morning, use it all day and repeat each night. I have no issue with battery life normally. Since I bought my watch there have been two occasions where the watch died before the night was done. My iphone6 (on iOS9.1 beta) has gone into power save mode once.

So for me extra battery would have been nice in these three occasions. Otherwise it really is a non-issue. There are much heavier users than I so I can understand that for them getting through the day may be more difficult. However, I believe (meaning I don't have a source at my finger tips) the only possible inconvenience for most users is simply plugging in the phone/watch every night while they sleep. For me even if you gave me week long battery life, I would still dock every night, because I don't like things just laying around. I like the look of them in the dock. So it really is not bad. Again, this is based on my experience with my use case. If yours is different then that is fine too. Your use case does not invalidate mine nor mine yours.

I don't think you could of explained that any better or simpler, that's what so many forget, they think just becomes something doesn't fit their way of using something (or their pretend usage of a product they've never owned) that somehow everyone must be in the same boat as them & that's a "FACT!!!"...
 
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I heard they can do that but you have to charge your phone 48 hrs straight. LOL! Proper balance is the key the way Apple design their products.

And maybe carry a 5 kilogram battery with it.
I seriously wish they did it as an option for the ones concerned with the battery life.
 
10 hours on 3G of browsing only happens if you load one site and stare at it for an hour with display set to like 25 percent. When i have my lunch break i usually read something and it goes down around 15 percent in 20 minutes that happens regardless of my settings. I have already tried and tested everything to make it last as long as it can and concluded that disabling stuff basically makes no impact.

Sounds like you have a bad phone and should get it/the battery replaced. Either that or you're doing something really wrong. I can read on my iPhone 6 for over an hour while streaming music and have the battery only drop about 10%.
 
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I'm all for more battery capacity, but is your statement really true if you're not camping? It never seems like a big deal to plug my phone in at night.


That is a terrible chart.

Not a big deal here, not a big deal there and suddenly you look around all you see is not a big deal everywhere. I'm not going to accept this. Ever.
 
Sounds like you have a bad phone and should get it/the battery replaced. Either that or you're doing something really wrong. I can read on my iPhone 6 for over an hour while streaming music and have the battery only drop about 10%.

Thats really hard to believe. Unless i see an hour long video of you just doing that and everything happening as you said. My experience is well in line with that of my friends an co workers that have iPhone 6 same as me. I don't think 13 people (i counted exactly) have phones with bad batteries.
 
Not a big deal here, not a big deal there and suddenly you look around all you see is not a big deal everywhere. I'm not going to accept this. Ever.

Hmmm.

It's not a big deal, it's not even a little deal. In fact it's not even a deal at all. It takes all of two seconds to plug it in. In the time it took me to write this comment I could have done it 50 times over.

Quite honestly I think people are making a fuss over nothing. Even if the battery was twice as big you'd still have to charge it every other day which isn't really much of an improvement, but then the phone would be much larger and much heavier.
 
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