Actually Android runs apps in Virtual Machines and iOS runs apps in native mode. It's very hard for VM to beat native mode in performance unless the VM runs on a hardware 3 to 4 times faster. VM simply is not efficient by design.
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iPhone 6s Bests Samsung's New Galaxy Note 7 in App Speed Test
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I think there might have been something wrong with your phone then. I don't have the problem with my S7 Edge and don't see other reports about it.
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Which 80% of that list isn't true?
Blah blah blah excuses excuses, resolution, RAM, bloatware, fragmentation blah blah ...
The fact that the YouTube speed test video and the XDA story have only been picked up by MacRumors, Daring Fireball, and BGR, demonstrates the bias the media has against Apple. If this story had been about the new iPhone, it would have received wall-to-wall coverage on the internet, TV, radio, and print.
Specs are the only reason why anyone should even consider getting an Android. Getting an Android for performance is like getting a Toyota Camry to do racing.
These ones in one way or another.
* 4.7" display
* pathetic battery life
* no wireless charging or fast charging
* no expandable memory
* no curved glass
* Apple Pay that works at 1% of places
* no NFC access
* no VR support
* no real multi-tasking
* pathetic camera features, no dual camera modes, low resolution front camera
* no dual app modes
* no one handed modes
* no EVS calling
Android performs just fine.
Is it faster than the iPhone? No but does it really need to be as long as the performance difference isn't noticeable?
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Why would the media care enough if one phone is slightly faster than the other? That would be nitpicking. If a phone was very slow that's one thing but both are fast phones. iPhone is simply faster.
Err I think your wrong and let me inform you why. Samsung spends most of their time copying other companies and getting sued by them. Heck during the spat between Apple Samsung themselves admitted thanks to internal documents they copied Apple. Hardware specs are only one part of a device. Software and how the hardware and software interact are other parts. Nobody does it better than Apple. Samsung fans seem to fail to realise that how you put it all together matters. For instance anybody can put a lot of half decent ingredients together in a pan though that does not mean that the resulting dish is edible. It takes a degree of skill and understanding to put the ingredients together in the right manner to create a great dish rather than just food.
Samsung have some points that are good, though they are few and far between. Their phones contain bloatware, are slow and sluggish and in terms of performance lag far behind Apple. Independent tests show that time and time again. it would be easy to reply and say that I am an Apple fanboy. I am not.
I appreciate great ideas and great practises that make sense. if Samsung changed their practises and how they did things then I would consider them.
If you like Samsung then go with them, just make sure that you choose them for the right reasons rather than just pure spec numbers.
Choose a feature that matters to you. For me what matters is security, privacy and and apps store that is as malware free as possible. Because if you only go with specs then soon after there will be another phone that is better and faster and higher resolution camera and you might feel buyers remorse and end up chasing specs for the sake of specs.
I however never feel bad about my choice because I chose a feature not meaningless numbers.
Samsung have some points that are good, though they are few and far between. Their phones contain bloatware, are slow and sluggish and in terms of performance lag far behind Apple. Independent tests show that time and time again. it would be easy to reply and say that I am an Apple fanboy. I am not.
I appreciate great ideas and great practises that make sense. if Samsung changed their practises and how they did things then I would consider them.
If you like Samsung then go with them, just make sure that you choose them for the right reasons rather than just pure spec numbers.
Choose a feature that matters to you. For me what matters is security, privacy and and apps store that is as malware free as possible. Because if you only go with specs then soon after there will be another phone that is better and faster and higher resolution camera and you might feel buyers remorse and end up chasing specs for the sake of specs.
I however never feel bad about my choice because I chose a feature not meaningless numbers.
Wrong Samsung specks are terrible, the 6S that is nearly a year old with 2gb ram is faster and smoother than a 3 day old 7S edge i just sold, and a week old new release Note 7 with 4Gb ram, so there goes your theory.
The 6S doesn't need 3gb ram too perform smoothly.
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I am not really a fan of Samsung products, but I think you're being uncharitable to them. They do push the envelope - they have the best phone cameras, they've had the best screens for a while (ever?), they basically made the "phablet" popular with their Note series. The idea that they sit around copying other companies is childish.
As for being "slow and sluggish", plenty of people would disagree with that. I routinely watch reviews and I saw several confirmations that the S7 is fast and smooth, and more importantly, it stayed so months later.
It's amusing and strange that you find Apple software interaction as something praise-worthy. I think their software interaction is their weakest point: the "share" menu of my Android phone shows 20 options (for a photo), the one on my iPad shows 8, one of which is Twitter, which isn't installed. I have far more apps on the iPad than on the phone.
It just shows the note is a spoilerd supercharged Ford F-150 while the iPhone is just a more refined machine, like a Porsche 911. It is just a more balanced, well thought out product.
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you mention these as though they are more important than they are and matter to the nth degree.
Let me deal with them one by one.
* 4.7" - what is bigger screen size so important. If so then you will never be pleased. You start with say a 4" screen then that won't be big enough so you get a 4.7" screen then that won't be big enough. Then a 5.5" screen and then 6" and so on. Each time wanting bigger and bigger till you end up with a 15" phone. Trying to walk down the street trying to balance it in your hands. As long as the phone is big enough to use without squinting at then it is fine.
* pathetic battery life - That is a moot point, as it depends on what you classify as not pathetic. When the iPhone 4s came out there were posts galore stating how Apple had lied about the standby hour claim of 200 hours. I conducted my own test and showed how it WAS possible to achieve this. It turns out that maybe, just maybe, the people complaining about poor battery life constantly use their phone. or that they have every feature turned on and use energy hungry apps or constantly use apps such as Facebook and Twitter. The trick is to strike a balance between using your phone and conserving energy. there ar opulent you people who manage this so perhaps the people moaning are the ones apr fault and not always the iPhone
* no wireless charging/fast charging. - So why is wireless charging a must have? How much more convenient is it to not plug a cable in? it must save all of about a second or so. Honestly there is virtually no real world scenario where wireless charging makes sense and is easier. Wireless charging will never be as fast as using a cable so seems that the two points you make contradict each other. As to fast charging if I use my iPad charger on my iPhone then it charges pretty fast in my view.
* No expandable memory - Not as great as it seems considering that the vast majority of phones that have expandable memory only allow photos and music to be saved to card. Not many allow apps to be saved which is the main use for having a memory card. Plus how much memory does one person need in a phone? I have had a phone with 32gb and that was more than enough. Though I guess some people need to take their whole photo collection of millions of pics with them and every song every released.
* No curved glass - why?? I have used samsung Galaxy S6 edge and honestly it makes little difference to my iPhone 6s in terms of curved glass and non curved glass. It is a minor point at best
* Apple pay that works at 1% of places - one, it is in its early days so give it time to roll out to more places. Secondly most laces that accept NFC can technically at least accept Apple Pay and so far i have seen plenty of places in the UK at least that accept it.
* No NFC access - well what is NFC used for? t is used (apart from contactless payments) mainly for transferring items from one phone to another easily and without cables etc. Well then the iPhone can do that using Airdrop. So the fact that it does not use NFC is not important and matters not one bit. Same result, different method.
* No VR support - Yes because 99% of phone users all are hard core gaming and tech nerds who NEED VR. it still is early days for mainstream VR adoption so the fact that the iPhone does not support it does not mean it never will and does not mean that this point matters. it only matters if your the less than 1% of phone users who need or want VR on a phone and not a Computer
* No real multitasking - the iPhone does multitasking though perhaps in a different fashion to Android. The result is that you can still switch between apps, yes technically android apps run in the background where as IOS suspend(i think) that does not matter that much. Especially when you take into account the fact that apps on IOS can fetch data when in the background and update their content so when you go back into them from another app they are up to date.
* pathetic camera features, no dual camera modes, low resolution front camera - I use an iPhone 6s and have had an iPhone since the iPhone 4s and have found the camera on them to get better and better with each phone. I have also never had a problem with the results from any of them. I am no pro expert and if i were I would use a SLR or digital SLR and not a phone. However the iPhone 7 probably will (according to many rumours and analysts) have dual camera. The front camera has a high enough resolution for most people considering you only use them for selfies and video calling. Mostly selfies though. I guess some people then are so self obsessed that they need to see themselves on photo in glorious high res detail.
* No dual app modes - What the ? why would I need or anyone else for that matter need to have 2 apps on a phone side by side and use them together. A tablet yes maybe, a computer definitely. A phone? NO!
* no one handed modes - I will give you half a point on this though only if your referring to being able to comfortably use an iPhone one handed when typing. If your meaning using the phone in general then your wrong because the iPhone since he iPhone 6 and 6 plus has reachability. You double tap the home button and the screen moves down so that you can reach the top portion easily. I use it all the time and have found no problems in doing so. I do though feel that it could be easier to type one handed, however maybe that is just me being rubbish at typing. For those then you wish to do so there is the 4" iPhone SE
* no EVS calling - well maybe I am missing something but EVS is implemented by the Networks(cell carriers) not harder makers per se. It is basically a form of Voice over LTE which iPhones use. Some people like you might say that EVS is better, though some people will say that VoLTE is better. Besides it is hardly a point to not buy an iPhone or any other phone that does not have it.
So as you can see I have pulled your points apart and dealt with them quite effectively.
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I find it amusing that you feel you NEED dozens of share options. How many times does one person need to share something, maybe you feel so important that you really do need to tell every person on every app on every device on every network that second of your life that matters so much.
You say that the idea they copy others is childish - not really because maybe you should look into samsung and how they have had court case after court case where they have been sued and in most cases been found guilty of copying or settled out of court. So yes they do copy. As I said they recently admitted in an internal document that they said how best can we copy the iPhone. So again yes they do copy Apple.
yes some samsung phones are not sluggish however i have used lots that ARE though I have yet to use an iPhone that is as sluggish even a bit
you mention these as though they are more important than they are and matter to the nth degree.
Let me deal with them one by one.
* 4.7" - what is bigger screen size so important. If so then you will never be pleased. You start with say a 4" screen then that won't be big enough so you get a 4.7" screen then that won't be big enough. Then a 5.5" screen and then 6" and so on. Each time wanting bigger and bigger till you end up with a 15" phone. Trying to walk down the street trying to balance it in your hands. As long as the phone is big enough to use without squinting at then it is fine.
* pathetic battery life - That is a moot point, as it depends on what you classify as not pathetic. When the iPhone 4s came out there were posts galore stating how Apple had lied about the standby hour claim of 200 hours. I conducted my own test and showed how it WAS possible to achieve this. It turns out that maybe, just maybe, the people complaining about poor battery life constantly use their phone. or that they have every feature turned on and use energy hungry apps or constantly use apps such as Facebook and Twitter. The trick is to strike a balance between using your phone and conserving energy. there ar opulent you people who manage this so perhaps the people moaning are the ones apr fault and not always the iPhone
* no wireless charging/fast charging. - So why is wireless charging a must have? How much more convenient is it to not plug a cable in? it must save all of about a second or so. Honestly there is virtually no real world scenario where wireless charging makes sense and is easier. Wireless charging will never be as fast as using a cable so seems that the two points you make contradict each other. As to fast charging if I use my iPad charger on my iPhone then it charges pretty fast in my view.
* No expandable memory - Not as great as it seems considering that the vast majority of phones that have expandable memory only allow photos and music to be saved to card. Not many allow apps to be saved which is the main use for having a memory card. Plus how much memory does one person need in a phone? I have had a phone with 32gb and that was more than enough. Though I guess some people need to take their whole photo collection of millions of pics with them and every song every released.
* No curved glass - why?? I have used samsung Galaxy S6 edge and honestly it makes little difference to my iPhone 6s in terms of curved glass and non curved glass. It is a minor point at best
* Apple pay that works at 1% of places - one, it is in its early days so give it time to roll out to more places. Secondly most laces that accept NFC can technically at least accept Apple Pay and so far i have seen plenty of places in the UK at least that accept it.
* No NFC access - well what is NFC used for? t is used (apart from contactless payments) mainly for transferring items from one phone to another easily and without cables etc. Well then the iPhone can do that using Airdrop. So the fact that it does not use NFC is not important and matters not one bit. Same result, different method.
* No VR support - Yes because 99% of phone users all are hard core gaming and tech nerds who NEED VR. it still is early days for mainstream VR adoption so the fact that the iPhone does not support it does not mean it never will and does not mean that this point matters. it only matters if your the less than 1% of phone users who need or want VR on a phone and not a Computer
* No real multitasking - the iPhone does multitasking though perhaps in a different fashion to Android. The result is that you can still switch between apps, yes technically android apps run in the background where as IOS suspend(i think) that does not matter that much. Especially when you take into account the fact that apps on IOS can fetch data when in the background and update their content so when you go back into them from another app they are up to date.
* pathetic camera features, no dual camera modes, low resolution front camera - I use an iPhone 6s and have had an iPhone since the iPhone 4s and have found the camera on them to get better and better with each phone. I have also never had a problem with the results from any of them. I am no pro expert and if i were I would use a SLR or digital SLR and not a phone. However the iPhone 7 probably will (according to many rumours and analysts) have dual camera. The front camera has a high enough resolution for most people considering you only use them for selfies and video calling. Mostly selfies though. I guess some people then are so self obsessed that they need to see themselves on photo in glorious high res detail.
* No dual app modes - What the ? why would I need or anyone else for that matter need to have 2 apps on a phone side by side and use them together. A tablet yes maybe, a computer definitely. A phone? NO!
* no one handed modes - I will give you half a point on this though only if your referring to being able to comfortably use an iPhone one handed when typing. If your meaning using the phone in general then your wrong because the iPhone since he iPhone 6 and 6 plus has reachability. You double tap the home button and the screen moves down so that you can reach the top portion easily. I use it all the time and have found no problems in doing so. I do though feel that it could be easier to type one handed, however maybe that is just me being rubbish at typing. For those then you wish to do so there is the 4" iPhone SE
* no EVS calling - well maybe I am missing something but EVS is implemented by the Networks(cell carriers) not harder makers per se. It is basically a form of Voice over LTE which iPhones use. Some people like you might say that EVS is better, though some people will say that VoLTE is better. Besides it is hardly a point to not buy an iPhone or any other phone that does not have it.
So as you can see I have pulled your points apart and dealt with them quite effectively.
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I find it amusing that you feel you NEED dozens of share options. How many times does one person need to share something, maybe you feel so important that you really do need to tell every person on every app on every device on every network that second of your life that matters so much.
You say that the idea they copy others is childish - not really because maybe you should look into samsung and how they have had court case after court case where they have been sued and in most cases been found guilty of copying or settled out of court. So yes they do copy. As I said they recently admitted in an internal document that they said how best can we copy the iPhone. So again yes they do copy Apple.
yes some samsung phones are not sluggish however i have used lots that ARE though I have yet to use an iPhone that is as sluggish even a bit
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Sorry, it wasn't my list - someone posted it earlier on and I called it a load of BS so we are in the same boat here as I agree with you 100%
The only reason I posted it again was someone asked me which points out of the original list I thought were rubbish, so I posted it again. Should have put it in quotes, so I apologise for the mix up.
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https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...n-app-speed-test.1989345/page-6#post-23270182
Learn what exactly? to use their own processor instead of Qualcomn?
Hey Macrumors how about be more specific next time? now many people who bought the Galaxy S7 with the Snapdragon version think they got tricked! Samsung Exynos 8890 provides faster cpu performance while the Snapdragon 820 provides faster internet performance!
I'm glad to see those type of articles
but try not to be so negative next time
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Ok, you go and multitask the hell out of your note 7 then. I' ll just open apps and games , just like regular people and find the A9 is a lot faster at doing that than the note 7.
What do you do with your note 7 ? Open 2 apps or play 2 games at once?
Many other android phones are faster than too, so it's not about only being slower than iPhone. for 800 dollars this is pretty bad.
I asked him before what sort of comparisons or tests could you do to demonstrate how well the S7 can "out multitask" the iPhone but I've not heard anything back yet..
I certainly want all my apps to be able to share stuff between themselves. If an app is capable of doing something with a photo, a piece of text or a link, yes, absolutely, I want it in the list. That's software integration.
If the OS gives voice interaction, search interaction in apps, on top of more app-to-app interaction, yes, that's absolutely good. That's software integration.
This is not a case of "less is more". In Apple's case, less is really less.
No, I did not. I said that the idea that Samsung sits around copying others is childish. Or, more to the point of what you wrote, that they spend the majority of their time doing so. Believing such silly things is childish.
Of course they copy, but they also innovate. Apples also copies, which is fine. Good ideas should spread around to benefit more people.
I don't have much experience with Samsung flagships, but certainly my P9 is very fast and fluid.
I think that an iPhone is such a limited device, with such a clunky, old-fashioned user experience (press icon to launch app - press home button - press icon to launch app etc), and a quintessential single-thread theme going through it, that it wouldn't take much to not make it sluggish. I mean, it barely got the "back to X" link recently, and it's hillariously out of reach, on top of the screen.
Having said that, my iPad is definitely sluggish, and usually cannot keep loaded even one web page in the background.
You'll have a device with 1GB RAM. On the 2GB+ devices that's not an issue anymore (6S, 6S+, SE, Air 2, Pro 9.7, Pro 12.9, Mini 4)
Ok so you have an iPad prior to the air 2, so you are commenting about an iPad that is at least 3 to 4 years old model?
Yes I bet and I hope a note 7 is also faster than an iPhone 4s or iPhone 5.
Not quite, it's an iPad mini 2 (retina), which I bought immediately after it was released, in December 2013, so less than 3 years old. It's not a very recent model, but I find no particular excuse for it to be sluggish (and it's been so for a long time), especially considering that I paid for it almost $800, the price of a good computer.
In any case, it blows out of the water the idea that Apple's devices are all smooth and fast. They aren't, even with their simplistic OS and single-thread experience.
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So what you're basically saying is that only Apple devices released within the last year aren't sluggish? That's hardly an endorsement, given their extremely high pricing.