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iPhone 6s Bests Samsung's New Galaxy Note 7 in App Speed Test
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So how fast DO you drive? I mean, if you drove 70MPH instead of 65 you'd save precious time. But if you drove 75 instead of 70, more precious time. Do you run red lights? Imagine the precious time you'd get back if you didn't have to sit at red lights! Were you the one cutting in front of me in line at the fast food joint the other day to save precious time?
How much precious time do you have to save? I guess you're not really enjoying life to it's fullest considering you spend enough time each day opening apps on your phone to add up to HOURS saved by saving 0.1 seconds on each app.
Enjoy.
Touchwiz (Samsung's bloated custom version of Android) causes all of these issues. I have a Nexus 6 and it never lags. When I had a Note 2 I flashed it will AOSP (Another Vanilla ROM) and all the lag magically disappeared. Pretty much convinced me to never buy a non Nexus phone again.
I was going to say, how much of this is the abomination that is TouchWiz vs the Processor. I have a feeling the Processor / Hardware is just fine (and based on just specs, should perform faster/better), and what we're seeing here is the ultimate in bloatware.
Again, this defense doesn't make any sense and sounds a bit desperate. Hardware is not "just fine" if it can't properly handle the software. Software is not "just fine" if it can't properly run on the hardware. TouchWiz is indeed the ultimate bloatware paired with terrible engineering, but you're stuck with it so you're getting a poorly-performing phone regardless of your specs.
Aah right so it's stuff I (and most likely 99.9% of smartphone users) wouldn't really be interesting in doing all at the same time anyway. Torrenting over cellular while driving? I can see the appeal for those who like to juggle stuff on one device like that but for me, meh, I'd take faster operation any day of the week.
Its funny because Samsung Galaxy S7 it's actually faster than Nexus 6P, either Samsung ruined the RAM management and hopefully will fix it or Nougat it's fully optimized for Nexus devices! Well in that case Samsung should just replace Android OS with Tizen, because let's face it majority of people doesn't care about that 1 million of useless apps, Tizen has Facebook, What's Up messenger, Spotify and useful first party apps like Internet Browser
YouTube? I use YouTube all the time but I never ever bothered with YouTube app
Try this after upgrading to Nougat as Google has optimized a lot of performance. I will admit that iOS is better optimized than Android, but this has usually always been the case for Apple. Building an OS for a discreet set of hardware usually edges out an OS that is built for any and all hardware.
But, at the end of the day, 99% of most phone consumers are generally oblivious to how fast, or slow, their phone is as most modern phones run most apps "good" enough for most consumers. If this is all Apple can claim is better about iPhone then Galaxy Note 7, then that is pretty pathetic.
But, at the end of the day, 99% of most phone consumers are generally oblivious to how fast, or slow, their phone is as most modern phones run most apps "good" enough for most consumers. If this is all Apple can claim is better about iPhone then Galaxy Note 7, then that is pretty pathetic.
You realize that in your efforts to criticize iOS you're actually reinforcing that it's a superior platform, right? Apple, smartly, limited true background processing to several classes of apps that actually require true background processing (e.g. navigation, telephony, etc.).
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Riiiiight because if the results were reversed Samsung wouldn't be claiming anything. You Samsung users are a hilarious bunch.
Switching to Tizen is great advice if you want Samsung Mobile to go out of business.
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Cmon Apple aren't as good as they are purely because their phones are smooth and fast. They provide a lot of great things to your daily experience.
I really think that the 820 is a good chip. Instead of continuing down the octacore multicore benchmark scenario, they went with a dual core "fast" and dual core "battery efficient" design. I think it's better to applaud them for abandoning an 8 core mobile chip for apps that in general run one at a time and have poor multi-threading design. To me this always seemed like a ploy to make multithreaded benchmarks look better, and improve some edge case scenarios like javascript engine performance in some browsers. So yeah, I think Quallcomm did good with the 820 and 821 design.
However, Samsung is known to have mods to Android to mess with memory management and their core OS has a tendency to be bloated. I'm interested in seeing what a more vanilla phone fares in this test. The one I have my eye on for this particular benchmark is the Asus Zenfone 3 with the 821 chip and 6 GB of memory. It also has larger and faster storage, which could help significantly with the load times of the games. And it has a more reasonable screen resolution of FHD instead of QHD, which could help responsiveness. Even with all this, I imagine this phone has to cost less than the Note 7.
The other big problem for the Note 7 is the ZTE Axon 7, which has the same SOC but costs less than half as much. It also has far better audio with a high quality DAC and amp. That being said, the Note 7 trumps the Axon 7 with a better camera and display. But still, $400 vs. $850. You could buy a really nice point and shoot camera that blows away any cell camera for that price difference.
In any case, enough with the hate for the 820! In pure integer / float tests, it's about 10% off the A9 in single core tests. And, what is not mentioned in this article, is that the 820 is also about 7 months old as well. If I had to criticize Quallcomm, I'd have to say that the real problem was the 810 overheating fiasco. They had to have the 810 v1, v2, and v2.1 to try to damage control that whole mess. If the Nexus 6P had the 820 instead of the 810 v2.1 I think it would have been neck and neck with the 6s on real world performance, which is what this guy is trying to simulate in a repeatable fashion.
However, Samsung is known to have mods to Android to mess with memory management and their core OS has a tendency to be bloated. I'm interested in seeing what a more vanilla phone fares in this test. The one I have my eye on for this particular benchmark is the Asus Zenfone 3 with the 821 chip and 6 GB of memory. It also has larger and faster storage, which could help significantly with the load times of the games. And it has a more reasonable screen resolution of FHD instead of QHD, which could help responsiveness. Even with all this, I imagine this phone has to cost less than the Note 7.
The other big problem for the Note 7 is the ZTE Axon 7, which has the same SOC but costs less than half as much. It also has far better audio with a high quality DAC and amp. That being said, the Note 7 trumps the Axon 7 with a better camera and display. But still, $400 vs. $850. You could buy a really nice point and shoot camera that blows away any cell camera for that price difference.
In any case, enough with the hate for the 820! In pure integer / float tests, it's about 10% off the A9 in single core tests. And, what is not mentioned in this article, is that the 820 is also about 7 months old as well. If I had to criticize Quallcomm, I'd have to say that the real problem was the 810 overheating fiasco. They had to have the 810 v1, v2, and v2.1 to try to damage control that whole mess. If the Nexus 6P had the 820 instead of the 810 v2.1 I think it would have been neck and neck with the 6s on real world performance, which is what this guy is trying to simulate in a repeatable fashion.
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The iPhone 6s has been my favorite iPhone by far. There was a hiccup after launch where I got the version that had a hardware defect with an overheating Touch ID button that would randomly reboot the device (usually at night while charging). But after a quick swap it has been great. It never lags and just goes to work.
Some people might say that saying the newest iPhone is my favorite is a dumb or obvious thing to say, but it's true. I outright hated my 6 Plus, and the only other models that really stand out to me as favorites are the iPhone 5 and iPhone 3GS (I've owned about every single model). The others were ok. I'd say the 4S was good, but by then I was already itching for a larger model.
I'd also say that iOS 9 helps a lot. It feels a lot more optimized than iOS 7 and iOS 8. In my mind, it's on equal footing with iOS 6, which is a big compliment.
I can't freaking wait to see what the A10 chip can do. Apple could go two ways with this: Make the A10 just completely lap the competition, or put the advances in efficiency into longer battery life. As is often the case, I think it will be a blend of both, but I'm hoping for a ratio that favors lower speed improvements and higher battery life. At the moment there isn't much need for massive speed improvements. The only thing I can think of that could benefit would be camera improvements, such as better burst, smoother live photo fps, higher FPS or resolution for slow-motion capture, or perhaps something to do with the new dual-camera system. And actually, that new dual-camera system could be the reasoning behind the rumors of the Plus model getting more RAM. It might need it for advanced, real-time image processing and high-res merging?
Some people might say that saying the newest iPhone is my favorite is a dumb or obvious thing to say, but it's true. I outright hated my 6 Plus, and the only other models that really stand out to me as favorites are the iPhone 5 and iPhone 3GS (I've owned about every single model). The others were ok. I'd say the 4S was good, but by then I was already itching for a larger model.
I'd also say that iOS 9 helps a lot. It feels a lot more optimized than iOS 7 and iOS 8. In my mind, it's on equal footing with iOS 6, which is a big compliment.
I can't freaking wait to see what the A10 chip can do. Apple could go two ways with this: Make the A10 just completely lap the competition, or put the advances in efficiency into longer battery life. As is often the case, I think it will be a blend of both, but I'm hoping for a ratio that favors lower speed improvements and higher battery life. At the moment there isn't much need for massive speed improvements. The only thing I can think of that could benefit would be camera improvements, such as better burst, smoother live photo fps, higher FPS or resolution for slow-motion capture, or perhaps something to do with the new dual-camera system. And actually, that new dual-camera system could be the reasoning behind the rumors of the Plus model getting more RAM. It might need it for advanced, real-time image processing and high-res merging?
Seeing a lot of comments about this being a Touchwizz issue. While partially true, XDA developers have confirmed that the kernel that Samsung ships the phone with is not as aggressive as other phones with the same SoC in terms of utilizing multiple cores to accomplish a task.
http://www.xda-developers.com/with-...rassing-real-world-performance/#disqus_thread
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You said it perfectly. I use Android phones, have a Nexus 6p, i would never buy another Samsung. They look nice, but are extremely bloated up and unless you use custom roms you won't get the full experience of the high end hardware because of that.
I've already come to the realization that the iPhone is going to always beat Android phones in benchmarks and tests. You just can't beat the optimized hardware/software combo. That said, I am quite happy with my Note 7. In real-world usage, most phones are going to be sufficient for 90% of tasks. I am coming from a Nexus 6P, which is a blazing fast phone with pure Android. The Note 7 is quite fast in all its tasks and for my daily usage. I am not a fan of the Samsung's UI, so I simply downloaded the Google Now launcher and it's just as great as my Nexus. The stylus is just too good to give up and just makes owning a phablet that more awesome. I wish my Nexus 6P came with a stylus. Also Samsung Pay is superior to both Android Pay and Apple Pay. Indeed, Android Pay doesn't even work with Chase bank (CSP is my most used card), but Samsung Pay does. The fact that I can use this thing with a non-NFC terminal is just too good.
Maybe this is just the honeymoon phase and this device will slow down and lag on me, but thus far it's one amazing phone.
Maybe this is just the honeymoon phase and this device will slow down and lag on me, but thus far it's one amazing phone.
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Without going too much into these tests, I'm gonna say that it's a poor comparison for the following reasons:
- iPhone's resolution is smaller, which requires less processing power
- App launch test doesn't really tell the entire story, because how an app launches, and how an app performs are two different things.
- iPhone's resolution is smaller, which requires less processing power
- App launch test doesn't really tell the entire story, because how an app launches, and how an app performs are two different things.
Arguably, the original iPhone was the original phablet. Nothing had a screen that large at the time, and nobody in the market was focused on providing truly robust apps for phones that were so similar in function to desktop style software. Samsung to this day has failed to develop an OS that is as powerful for computing as iOS, and Android itself still doesn't really support tablet style apps very well, so giving them credit for "phablets" is overly generous. About all you can say is that years after the original iPhone was launched, Samsung developed phones with larger screens.
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Flip side: iPhone has half the number of processing cores and RAM.
So basically what your saying Samsung should just replace TouchWizz with stock android in the Note 7? wouldn't that make Note 7 useless? Nougat has just release Split-screen! wow that's impressive! But TouchWizz had it for years! and what about picture-in-picture?
Bloatware? can you please mention one in the Note 7? or I we still talking about the old days when Samsung sucked in OS department?
This is a good point. Screen resolution does play a part. Incidentally, the Note 7 has a really cool power saving mode that allows you to downgrade your resolution from QHD to 1080p and then even further to 720p.
It'd be interesting to see the test performed on the 1080p mode, although it might not do them any good since the processor power is also reduced in that mode.
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I don't mind Samsung's extra apps at all. Some of them, such as the Samsung browser, is actually quite useful. The real bloatware comes from the carrier apps. I'm looking at you NFL mobile, Verizon VZ Navigator, and VZ whatever.
There is a video showing the Note 7 running in 720p (Which is lower than the 6s' 750p screen) and the 6s is still beating it. The video is somewhere in this thread, there's so many pages so I'm not sure where it is.
Keep in mind that the 720p mode is also running at a reduced processing power. I don't you think can run the Note 7 in lower resolution at full speed. Unless I'm mistaken.
A VERY slight performance increase isn't worth all the features the hardware is missing.